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Title: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: miskie on June 16, 2010, 02:10:57 PM
This should get a great reception - science seems to indicate more and more regularly that Global Warming may be linked to the sun.. Imagine that.

I suspect this thread will be as welcome at DU as garlic is to vampires. (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=228x67983)


Quote from: rayofreason
rayofreason (1000+ posts)        Wed Jun-16-10 02:59 PM
Original message
What's wrong with the sun?
      

SUNSPOTS come and go, but recently they have mostly gone. For centuries, astronomers have recorded when these dark blemishes on the solar surface emerge, only for them to fade away again after a few days, weeks or months. Thanks to their efforts, we know that sunspot numbers ebb and flow in cycles lasting about 11 years.

But for the past two years, the sunspots have mostly been missing. Their absence, the most prolonged for nearly a hundred years, has taken even seasoned sun watchers by surprise. "This is solar behaviour we haven't seen in living memory," says David Hathaway, a physicist at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Alabama.

The sun is under scrutiny as never before thanks to an armada of space telescopes. The results they beam back are portraying our nearest star, and its influence on Earth, in a new light. Sunspots and other clues indicate that the sun's magnetic activity is diminishing, and that the sun may even be shrinking. Together the results hint that something profound is happening inside the sun. The big question is what?


http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627640.800-whats-wrong-with-the-sun.html?page=1

The linked article is quite interesting - well worth the read.
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: AllosaursRus on June 16, 2010, 02:15:46 PM
Oh noes!!!!!!! Now look what we've done! We've polluted the Sun!!!!!!!!

The Sun obviously doesn't appreciate being spied on by all those telescopes!

We don't deserve to live in the Solar System!
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on June 16, 2010, 02:31:30 PM
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/893/krsunlp7.jpg)
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: jukin on June 16, 2010, 02:32:45 PM
I've designed over 40 machines that utilize infrared, ultraviolet or x-ray radiation energy transfer and yes, IT"S THE SUN YOU DUmbasses!!!!!!
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: miskie on June 16, 2010, 03:50:59 PM
I've designed over 40 machines that utilize infrared, ultraviolet or x-ray radiation energy transfer and yes, IT"S THE SUN YOU DUmbasses!!!!!!

Of course its the sun - even the ice cores prove it..

for some 'unknown reason'  there is no arctic ice that is much more than 800 years old, which indicates that it had melted away at some time before then. Now, there was no industrialization, the 'new world' was still an unknown quantity, and the earth's population was an estimated 360 million. Yet all the northern ice went away ? How is that even possible ?

The only logical conclusion is the sun has cycles of active and inactive periods beyond the usual 11 year sunspot season that we are just beginning to understand now. The sun isn't a simple linear construct, like a sine wave, but a far more complex organism...  example in photographs below..

how mankind regards sunspot activity..
(http://www.lwhancock.com/images/Sinewave1.gif)

how mankind should regard sunspot activity..
(http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/upload/2009/04/inspiration_from_a_typographer/4501-gears.jpg)

There is a lot that goes on 'behind the scenes' we simply aren't aware of - like a grandfather clock. We see the hands go around and hear the ticking - but have no idea what makes what we see happen. The same can be said about the sun. Its not just a ball of fire, its a complex organism that generates a rich electromagnetic environment, not just heat and the occasional solar flare.
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: JohnnyReb on June 16, 2010, 03:57:09 PM
"...the sun may even be shrinking." ...OH NO! The sun is melting.
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: Vagabond on June 16, 2010, 04:30:48 PM
"...the sun may even be shrinking." ...OH NO! The sun is melting.

Yep, everyday all day for millions of years even.  Heck, even at night.
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: miskie on June 16, 2010, 04:35:46 PM
Yep, everyday all day for millions of years even.  Heck, even at night.

That damned  Law of Conservation of Matter and Energy law kicking in again. Oh Noes !!! Teh R0v3 is steeling mah sun !!!11!!!!
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: Randy on June 16, 2010, 04:37:13 PM
"...the sun may even be shrinking."

No worries, it's just the contraction leading up to the super rapid expansion.... :fuelfire:
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: IassaFTots on June 16, 2010, 04:40:04 PM
No worries, it's just the contraction leading up to the super rapid expansion.... :fuelfire:


Like a tsunami.  But it's the sun.  So it isn't water coming at ya, but sun stuff.  And it is really really hot.
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: miskie on June 16, 2010, 04:48:32 PM

Like a tsunami.  But it's the sun.  So it isn't water coming at ya, but sun stuff.  And it is really really hot.

Aside : I laughed the other day at the TV. my youngest was watching Kai-lan  and the sun sent down 'sun fuzzies' to tickle her and her friends.

All I could think was that when the sun ejects core matter, it never ends well - and it definitely doesn't tickle...
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: soleil on June 16, 2010, 05:27:13 PM
Aside : I laughed the other day at the TV. my youngest was watching Kai-lan  and the sun sent down 'sun fuzzies' to tickle her and her friends.

All I could think was that when the sun ejects core matter, it never ends well - and it definitely doesn't tickle...

You have to watch Kai-lan too? That is one of my least faves. Just can't stand it.
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: miskie on June 16, 2010, 06:06:26 PM
You have to watch Kai-lan too? That is one of my least faves. Just can't stand it.

I have three that range from eleven to four, So I have spent the last decade subjected to some of the worst dreck ever aired.

Whatever happened to keeping it simple - Sesame Street, Electric Company--  hell, even Mr. Rogers... And in terms of embracing multiculturalism, At times I feel shows like Kai-lan and Dora The Explorer do more to weaken cultural integration than to foster it - but that is another story.

..At least it isn't Yo-Gabba-Gabba.. 
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: soleil on June 16, 2010, 06:11:56 PM
I have three that range from eleven to four, So I have spent the last decade subjected to some of the worst dreck ever aired.

Whatever happened to keeping it simple - Sesame Street, Electric Company--  hell, even Mr. Rogers... And in terms of embracing multiculturalism, At times I feel shows like Kai-lan and Dora The Explorer do more to weaken cultural integration than to foster it - but that is another story.

..At least it isn't Yo-Gabba-Gabba.. 


Oh, my almost 2 year old LOVES Yo Gabba Gabba. That is one wacky show. I believe there must be some LSD involved. Kai-lan isn't the worst. I am not sure if you know of Max and Ruby, or Maggie and the Ferocious Beast, or Olivia, or The Fresh Beat Band............. I have years to endure this mess???? Oh no!! At least she loves Shrek and Toy Story. Those I can handle. Although after watching Shrek at least 100 times, it is getting a wee bit old.
Sorry, this totally got off subject!
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: miskie on June 16, 2010, 06:17:52 PM

Oh, my almost 2 year old LOVES Yo Gabba Gabba. That is one wacky show. I believe there must be some LSD involved. Kai-lan isn't the worst. I am not sure if you know of Max and Ruby, or Maggie and the Ferocious Beast, or Olivia, or The Fresh Beat Band............. I have years to endure this mess???? Oh no!! At least she loves Shrek and Toy Story. Those I can handle. Although after watching Shrek at least 100 times, it is getting a wee bit old.
Sorry, this totally got off subject!


I know of all of them.. If its a kids show that has aired in the USA at least once, Ive seen it..  :-) as for YGG - Id say more than some LSD has gone into its making, causing the writers to have all sorts of multicolored 80's flashbacks. I bet DJ Lance wishes he could have been Mr. Goodbody when he was young..

*Thread derailment complete*   :-)
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: Attero Dominatus on June 16, 2010, 06:30:59 PM
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The results they beam back are portraying our nearest star, and its influence on Earth, in a new light. Sunspots and other clues indicate that the sun's magnetic activity is diminishing, and that the sun may even be shrinking.
Rove, you are a genius!
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: dandi on June 16, 2010, 06:50:31 PM
Doesn't Halliburton have the contract for lighting the Sun every day? Bastards are cutting corners again.

*memo to self: Send this to Keith and Rachel*
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 16, 2010, 07:03:21 PM
(http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/893/krsunlp7.jpg)

 :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:

As to the Nick Jr. lineup, Yo Gabba Gabba is, well, weird.  Who would think that something that looks like a walking, talking sex toy would be such a force for good in little kids' lives (Muno is his name)?  though, I confess a weakness for Wow! Wow! Wubbzy! and The Wonder Pets.  A lot of it has to do with the music.  (Singing in a choir has its' advantages, in figuring these things out.)
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: soleil on June 16, 2010, 07:15:44 PM
:lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:

As to the Nick Jr. lineup, Yo Gabba Gabba is, well, weird.  Who would think that something that looks like a walking, talking sex toy would be such a force for good in little kids' lives (Muno is his name)?  though, I confess a weakness for Wow! Wow! Wubbzy! and The Wonder Pets.  A lot of it has to do with the music.  (Singing in a choir has its' advantages, in figuring these things out.)


I can get behind Wow Wow and Wonder Pets. I like Backyardigans strictly for the music. And yes, Muno looks like a big red play toy. Weird!!!!
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: Vagabond on June 16, 2010, 08:44:08 PM

I can get behind Wow Wow and Wonder Pets. I like Backyardigans strictly for the music. And yes, Muno looks like a big red play toy. Wierd!!!!

I watched a lot of drek when my daughter was two to six.  Now, she's seven and into whatever the kiddie-bopper flavor of the moment is. 

My son never really cared for all the kiddie cartoons. he prefers action Avatar: The Last Airbender is his absolute favorite show, and at least it has a story behind it.  He's three and can tell you the name of every character.  He is only slightly less nuts about anything with Batman in it.
Title: Re: What's wrong with the sun?
Post by: Karin on June 17, 2010, 12:50:20 PM
That picture that Happy Fun Ball put up was sooooo freakin funny! :lmao: :rotf:

All those kids shows sound dreadful.  I have CD box sets of the Warner Bros. and that's what my grandkid is going to watch.  Like it or not.