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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: cavegal on June 15, 2010, 07:49:28 PM
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Tue Jun-15-10 08:29 PM
Original message
The President gets an A+ for hitting the right notes:
* Expressing compassion
* Displaying a grasp of the situation
* Introducing a Gulf restoration plan
* Hitting BP
* Stresssing that drilling is becoming a more desperate and dangerous endeavor
* Explaining that oil is a finite resource
* Mentioning the bill passed by the House and demanding comprehensive legislation
* Demanding that politicians find the courage to seize the day and transform our energy future
Updated to add relevant parts of the speech:
I refuse to let that happen. Tomorrow, I will meet with the chairman of BP and inform him that he is to set aside whatever resources are required to compensate the workers and business owners who have been harmed as a result of his company's recklessness. And this fund will not be controlled by BP. In order to ensure that all legitimate claims are paid out in a fair and timely manner, the account must and will be administered by an independent, third party.
I make that commitment tonight. Earlier, I asked Ray Mabus, the Secretary of the Navy, a former governor of Mississippi, and a son of the Gulf, to develop a long-term Gulf Coast Restoration Plan as soon as possible. The plan will be designed by states, local communities, tribes, fishermen, businesses, conservationists, and other Gulf residents. And BP will pay for the impact this spill has had on the region.
One of the lessons we've learned from this spill is that we need better regulations better safety standards, and better enforcement when it comes to offshore drilling. But a larger lesson is that no matter how much we improve our regulation of the industry, drilling for oil these days entails greater risk. After all, oil is a finite resource. We consume more than 20% of the world's oil, but have less than 2% of the world's oil reserves. And that's part of the reason oil companies are drilling a mile beneath the surface of the ocean - because we're running out of places to drill on land and in shallow water.
For decades, we have known the days of cheap and easily accessible oil were numbered. For decades, we have talked and talked about the need to end America's century-long addiction to fossil fuels. And for decades, we have failed to act with the sense of urgency that this challenge requires. Time and again, the path forward has been blocked - not only by oil industry lobbyists, but also by a lack of political courage and candor.
We cannot consign our children to this future. The tragedy unfolding on our coast is the most painful and powerful reminder yet that the time to embrace a clean energy future is now. Now is the moment for this generation to embark on a national mission to unleash American innovation and seize control of our own destiny.
This is not some distant vision for America. The transition away from fossil fuels will take some time, but over the last year and a half, we have already taken unprecedented action to jumpstart the clean energy industry. As we speak, old factories are reopening to produce wind turbines, people are going back to work installing energy-efficient windows, and small businesses are making solar panels. Consumers are buying more efficient cars and trucks, and families are making their homes more energy-efficient. Scientists and researchers are discovering clean energy technologies that will someday lead to entire new industries.
Each of us has a part to play in a new future that will benefit all of us. As we recover from this recession, the transition to clean energy has the potential to grow our economy and create millions of good, middle-class jobs - but only if we accelerate that transition. Only if we seize the moment. And only if we rally together and act as one nation - workers and entrepreneurs; scientists and citizens; the public and private sectors.
When I was a candidate for this office, I laid out a set of principles that would move our country towards energy independence. Last year, the House of Representatives acted on these principles by passing a strong and comprehensive energy and climate bill - a bill that finally makes clean energy the profitable kind of energy for America's businesses.
Now, there are costs associated with this transition. And some believe we can't afford those costs right now. I say we can't afford not to change how we produce and use energy - because the long-term costs to our economy, our national security, and our environment are far greater.
http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x340032
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What kills me is that this opinion is totally in the minority over there - most of them are going into meltdown over the speech.
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They say this oil reserve stretches inland as far as Alabama.
The reason it is being drilled for I assume in deep water is because we won`t allow otherwise.
Fix that O and then go on and preach your nonsense.
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For decades, we have known the days of cheap and easily accessible oil were numbered. For decades, we have talked and talked about the need to end America's century-long addiction to fossil fuels. And for decades, we have failed to act with the sense of urgency that this challenge requires. Time and again, the path forward has been blocked - not only by oil industry lobbyists, but also by a lack of political courage and candor.
The answer is obviously batteries. We can buy the lithium from Afghanistan and Venezuela. ::)
I'm glad some DUmmy watched the whole speech because I was busy with non-Obama related stuff.
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I might have bought it if I was half brain dead. First off he spent a full third of it if not more trying to sale cap and trade. Second he lied out his @#$ about how oil was about to disappear and the reason we are deep sea drilling. There is plenty of oil here we do not have to import but enviro freaks and there democrat pals will not let us. The best part was him saying he was gonna sit down and tell BP what they will be paying. But they are not allowed to administer it. I fully think BP should be held accountable but where does he get off thinking he knows best? Then his spew about alternative energy? Yeah Mr President look at Spain and Germany that worked out well didn't it? :bs:
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-15-10 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #4
55. A- from me.
It was good, but that prayer and American spirit shit makes me want to puke.
The true spirit of the DUmp. :bird:
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-15-10 08:56 PM
Response to Reply #4
55. It was good, but that prayer and American spirit shit makes me want to puke.
Didn't see that coming. :gay:
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Here's a related thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x339958
nmbluesky (162 posts) Tue Jun-15-10 08:18 PM
Original message
Grade
What your decide Obama's Speech Grade..
When I saw Obama on TV..
oh Gosh. He is really President!!!
You're shocked too huh?
katandmoon (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-15-10 08:20 PM
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5. D. Very disappointing.
lillypaddle (696 posts) Tue Jun-15-10 08:23 PM
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12. This "cheerleader"
is very disheartened, and very disappointed.
Nice speech. No substance. Shit. It sucked.
Auggie (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-15-10 08:27 PM
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24. D for disappointing
SaveOurDemocracy (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-15-10 08:27 PM
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25. D- Unsatisfactory. A lot of nothing new, very vague.
branders seine (1000+ posts) Tue Jun-15-10 08:37 PM
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36. F
zero new.
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What kills me is that this opinion is totally in the minority over there - most of them are going into meltdown over the speech.
There does seem to be some dummy diphtheria as they try to swallow the crap Obie pumped out.
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Here's a related thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x339958
:siren: mole trap... :siren:
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:siren: mole trap... :siren:
:lmao:
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This is not some distant vision for America. The transition away from fossil fuels will take some time, but over the last year and a half, we have already taken unprecedented action to jumpstart the clean energy industry. As we speak, old factories are reopening to produce wind turbines, people are going back to work installing energy-efficient windows, and small businesses are making solar panels. Consumers are buying more efficient cars and trucks, and families are making their homes more energy-efficient. Scientists and researchers are discovering clean energy technologies that will someday lead to entire new industries.
I wonder if the Teleprompter Dramaqueen realizes how much of a driving force hydrocarbons are for society at large? Hydrocarbons are used for plastics and composites (including the ones used in his precious wind turbines!), asphalt and countless other products. As a fuel they move goods around and generate power. They even play a role in the space program (or at least what little is left of it) as a source of hydrogen for rockets. Move away from the oil and you pretty much move away from the modern age. His stupidity can never be overstated!
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I'm gonna put out all the mason jars I got tomorrow....gotta capture and perserve all the sunlight I can for this winter.
DUmmie engineering....it's the new green industry.
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I'm gonna put out all the mason jars I got tomorrow....gotta capture and perserve all the sunlight I can for this winter.
DUmmie engineering....it's the new green industry.
Question.
When you capture all that sunlight, do you have to store it in a cool, dark place? :rotf:
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Question.
When you capture all that sunlight, do you have to store it in a cool, dark place? :rotf:
Yes, they don't go stale on you near as fast that way.
Oh, and here's a tip for you. You want to put the lids on the jars in exactly the middle of the day when the sun is shining straight down into the jars. You get the most light into the jar and that will drive all the "dark" out of the jar thus you have less pollution in your sunlight.
DUmmie engineering......for a brighter tomorrow.
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Yes, they don't go stale on you near as fast that way.
Oh, and here's a tip for you. You want to put the lids on the jars in exactly the middle of the day when the sun is shining straight down into the jars. You get the most light into the jar and that will drive all the "dark" out of the jar thus you have less pollution in your sunlight.
DUmmie engineering......for a brighter tomorrow.
Almost spat coffee on the screen! :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
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Yes, they don't go stale on you near as fast that way.
Oh, and here's a tip for you. You want to put the lids on the jars in exactly the middle of the day when the sun is shining straight down into the jars. You get the most light into the jar and that will drive all the "dark" out of the jar thus you have less pollution in your sunlight.
DUmmie engineering......for a brighter tomorrow.
Just a quick question here JR, sholdn't you hold at least half your jar inventory aside to collect moon beams as well? And what about starshine?
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Just a quick question here JR, sholdn't you hold at least half your jar inventory aside to collect moon beams as well? And what about starshine?
I like to go for the "full strength" light....saves on energy by not requiring the manufacturing of so many jars.......but you do have a point....one should save a couple of jars of moonlight for those special occasions with ones significant other....not that there's anything wrong with it if that significant other happens to be of the same sex.....BUT then I'd suggest using starlight because usually in the same sex relationships, one of the partners is ugly as hell....Take Rosie O' for an example. ....to much light could ruin the moment.....and a moment is just about how long it would last.
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Couldn't you take the moonlight and "compress" it, say with a cinder block, thereby making it into a more concentrated form? You would get the same wattage per mason jar, if it was under pressure.
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Couldn't you take the moonlight and "compress" it, say with a cinder block, thereby making it into a more concentrated form? You would get the same wattage per mason jar, if it was under pressure.
I tried that but the chicken wire basket leaked it out all over the place....what a mess.
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Yes, he hit it out of the park:
Overall, 42% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president's performance. That’s the lowest level of approval yet recorded for this president. Fifty-seven percent (57%) now disapprove.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
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Couldn't you take the moonlight and "compress" it, say with a cinder block, thereby making it into a more concentrated form? You would get the same wattage per mason jar, if it was under pressure.
I use a box full of angled mirrors to capture light - the light enters in through an opening and starts bouncing around on the mirrors, confusing it. Once the box is full, I close the lid, trapping the light inside. At the bottom I have a spigot that I use to drain the now tamed light into a mason jar , and once I close the lid, I have a lantern that lasts most of the night, until the light dies.
Here is a tip - Adding a little bit of water and fresh cut flower food to the bottom of the mason jar feeds the light, and often you can get it to last until daybreak. Then its just a matter of dumping the water, flower food, and dead light into the compost heap for recycling, and then you can reuse the mason jar later that night.
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I'll try that, Miskie. Ingenious!
This is for Zeitgeist: :hammer:
for this: And what about starshine?
Now all morning I've had that stupid song stuck in my head. Good Morning Starshine. Gaaah!
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I'll try that, Miskie. Ingenious!
This is for Zeitgeist: :hammer:
for this: Now all morning I've had that stupid song stuck in my head. Good Morning Starshine. Gaaah!
Sorry here will this make up for it?
(http://www.hairontour.com/images/header.jpg)
Closing June 27 :tongue:
Ah, my misspent youth. Once so gleamin flaxen waxen :uhsure:.
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"we have already taken unprecedented action to jumpstart the clean energy industry. As we speak, old factories are reopening to produce wind turbines, people are going back to work installing energy-efficient windows, and small businesses are making solar panels. Consumers are buying more efficient cars and trucks, and families are making their homes more energy-efficient. Scientists and researchers are discovering clean energy technologies that will someday lead to entire new industries."
Does this prick really believe this shirt?
Hey, Bummer, care to back that up with economic fact? ( crickets chirping )
Thought not!
Oh, wait! I heard China is getting some work outa the deal!
ETA:
The President gets a A+
For what? Screwin' the pooch?