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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: ScubaGuy on June 11, 2010, 08:22:01 AM
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A bouncy from yesterday complaining about them damn rich right wingers.
Yesterday's bouncy (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8522734)
gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jun-09-10 03:08 PM
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RW friend complaining because budget cuts effect her
"Thanks for Obama's Health Care Bill, starting in 2011, I cannot use my Health Spending Account for Over The Counter drugs. This video sums up my feelings right now. " (The video was some stupid thing showing a bunch of photos of Obama with FAIL written over them... very clever, not.)
So tempting to say something like "You said you want Obama to cut spending because it's the most important thing in the world, but when it means your aspirin won't be tax-free anymore, you complain?"
napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Jun-09-10 03:31 PM
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6. All the complainers are like that. Cut everything except MY STUFF!
Remember the Teabagger yelling "Keep your hands off my Medicare". They all freak when somebody mentions doing anything to SS or anything that benefits them, but it's fine to cut welfare or unemployment. Heck, one aquaintance of mine is on unemployment and when it was extended, she refused to give Obama or any of the Dems in Congress any credit for the extention. She said it was a State thing and the Dems deserved no thanks at all. GRRRR
And today we get this little gem.
BOING! (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8535437)
Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-11-10 07:51 AM
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WTF? Prescription required to use my reimbursement account for Advil?
Just got an email from my reimbursement account administrator. Starting January 1, 2011 I can no longer use my reimbursement account (pre-tax dollars that I surrender at the end of the year if not used) to buy OTC medications without a prescription. WTF? They say this change is due to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. WTF does taking away my ability to buy OTC meds with pre-tax dollars have to do with Patient Protection and Affordable Care?
"beginning January 1, 2011, a doctor's prescription will be required in order for you to receive reimbursement of expenses incurred when purchasing certain commonly used over-the-counter (OTC) medicines like Claritin, Advil and Robitussin cough syrup. Because the new law requires a prescription for these types of items before we can reimburse you from your account, you will no longer be able to make these purchases using your Health Care Card (Card)."
Again, WTF? The new law requires a ****ing prescription for OTC meds? Next they'll tell me I can no longer use the reimbursement account to pay my co-pay for the doctor visit now required to get a ****ing prescription for a ****ing OTC medication... What fresh jackassery is this? Who in the **** bought this law? This is both ass-nine and redickulous.
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Hey Lance -- you voted for it, you moron, so suck it! :bird:
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Fri Jun-11-10 07:51 AM
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WTF? Prescription required to use my reimbursement account for Advil?
Just got an email from my reimbursement account administrator. Starting January 1, 2011 I can no longer use my reimbursement account (pre-tax dollars that I surrender at the end of the year if not used) to buy OTC medications without a prescription. WTF? They say this change is due to the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act. WTF does taking away my ability to buy OTC meds with pre-tax dollars have to do with Patient Protection and Affordable Care?
"beginning January 1, 2011, a doctor's prescription will be required in order for you to receive reimbursement of expenses incurred when purchasing certain commonly used over-the-counter (OTC) medicines like Claritin, Advil and Robitussin cough syrup. Because the new law requires a prescription for these types of items before we can reimburse you from your account, you will no longer be able to make these purchases using your Health Care Card (Card)."
Again, WTF? The new law requires a ****ing prescription for OTC meds? Next they'll tell me I can no longer use the reimbursement account to pay my co-pay for the doctor visit now required to get a ****ing prescription for a ****ing OTC medication... What fresh jackassery is this? Who in the **** bought this law? This is both ass-nine and redickulous.
I'm totally oblivious about this, but who gets a reimbursement for OTC meds? I can imagine doing so for something VERY expensive, but Advil & cough syrup?
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Uh-oh, someone got their Skittle-shitting unicorn and doesn't like it...
(http://scifiwire.com/assets_c/2010/04/Unicorn_meat-thumb-550x414-37554.jpg)
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Ralph, currently you can use your FSA account to pay for OTC drugs and supplies. After 1/1 you won't be able to. Since the FSA is pre-tax, depending on your company's plans, you can have up to 6K deducted from your check to go into this account, which is suhweat because it knocks down your taxable income.
A lot of people use the extra bits to buy their OTC stuff during the year. It also applies to things like walkers, crutches, etc....
The plan, as it is right now, is next year you won't be able to use it for these things. The other plan is to reduce total contribution to the FSA to 2500.
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I'm totally oblivious about this, but who gets a reimbursement for OTC meds? I can imagine doing so for something VERY expensive, but Advil & cough syrup?
I have a health savings account card and I use it for OTC meds, if I remember. Right now, you can use it for any medical related products, from Band-Aids to surgery. I probably wouldn't if I had to submit a claim, but I have a debit card that will automatically deduct from my FSA.
I hadn't heard that I won't be able to use it for non-prescription medication next year :( That sucks.
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I have a health savings account card and I use it for OTC meds, if I remember. Right now, you can use it for any medical related products, from Band-Aids to surgery. I probably wouldn't if I had to submit a claim, but I have a debit card that will automatically deduct from my FSA.
I hadn't heard that I won't be able to use it for non-prescription medication next year :( That sucks.
You should be hearing something soon, or at the very least, during your OE this year. The vendors are supposed to have all of the new FSA requirements by July 1, so I imagine notices will be sent shortly thereafter.
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I have a health savings account card and I use it for OTC meds, if I remember. Right now, you can use it for any medical related products, from Band-Aids to surgery. I probably wouldn't if I had to submit a claim, but I have a debit card that will automatically deduct from my FSA.
I hadn't heard that I won't be able to use it for non-prescription medication next year :( That sucks.
And how many OTC meds are just as good or the same strength as prescription meds such as Claritin, Motrin, etc?
Anyone have any idea how much MORE this is going to end up costing us? Hmmmm...$12 for a box of Claritin OTC or $75 for the same amount via prescription, but of course people don't see that because they only have a $5 copay.
Idiots.
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Thanks ladies. I wasn't familiar with that plan at all.
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And how many OTC meds are just as good or the same strength as prescription meds such as Claritin, Motrin, etc?
Anyone have any idea how much MORE this is going to end up costing us? Hmmmm...$12 for a box of Claritin OTC or $75 for the same amount via prescription, but of course people don't see that because they only have a $5 copay.
Idiots.
ditto. 30-day supply of generic zyrtec puts me back $21. My COPAY for prescription Zyrtec was $50.
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I didn't know this either. WTF else is in that monstrosity? I sense a shitstorm brewing over this. What possible rationale was there to implement this? REPEAL REPEAL REPEAL.
There's going to be a shortage of doctors anyway, when they all go Galt. Now everybody's going to be clogging what offices are left to get a prescription for a freakin aspirin.
My congressman (Owens) keeps pestering me with robocalls and emails telling me to come to his townhall this Sunday. Think I'll go. He voted for this POS, wonder if he knows what's in it?
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I'm in a chronic care program with my insurance company where they waive copays on visits and prescriptions related to my cardiac disease. My doctor has prescribed an aspirin a day. If I just buy aspirin, I pay for it. (If I had and fsa account, i could pay for it with that.) If I get it from the pharmacy as a prescription, I pay nothing. OK, so it saves me maybe ten bucks a year.
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This is how the Bummer is going to lower the tax rates of the workin' populace?
Yeah right! .
Their whole intention is to get more of our money! Wonder what's in there that's going to effect our before tax retirement accounts? You can bet there will be a limit comin' down the pike if it's not already in there!
"We have to pass this bill in order to find out what's in it." [/stretch pelosi] She should be thrown in a tank of lung fish for that remark! It's the only thing I can think of that's as slimy as she, Reid, the Bummer, and their DemonRat partners in crime are!
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Their whole intention is to get more of our money! Wonder what's in there that's going to effect our before tax retirement accounts? You can bet there will be a limit comin' down the pike if it's not already in there!
Bingo.
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I'm in a chronic care program with my insurance company where they waive copays on visits and prescriptions related to my cardiac disease. My doctor has prescribed an aspirin a day. If I just buy aspirin, I pay for it. (If I had and fsa account, i could pay for it with that.) If I get it from the pharmacy as a prescription, I pay nothing. OK, so it saves me maybe ten bucks a year.
Again, you DO pay--LOTS more. Just because it doesn't come out of your pocket that second doesn't mean you aren't paying for it and everyone elses "OTC's versus prescriptions" via higher premiums.
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Obama hellCare is nothing but a huge tax and grow government bill.
1. You will be paying more for the same insurance.
2. You will pay more taxes for the same gross pay.
3. You will wait much longer to see doctors.
4. You will be dealing with a bureaucrat to get treatments.
5. You will be paying the taxes long before you can wait to have a treatment denied by a bureaucrat.
Since Obama has come to rule he has waged a war against white people over 50.
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The video was some stupid thing showing a bunch of photos of Obama with FAIL written over them... very clever, not.
So they are only clever when the butterball makes them about Bush? :whatever:
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I'm totally oblivious about this, but who gets a reimbursement for OTC meds? I can imagine doing so for something VERY expensive, but Advil & cough syrup?
Really, I mean you can go to wally world and get a 50 gallon drum size bottle of advil for 8 bucks which lasts for months. I get clariton for 4 bucks at wally world or target and that's 30 pills, of course its the store brand but, its the same damn stuff.