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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 09, 2010, 02:00:07 PM
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-09-10 05:55 PM
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Mexicans are seething as US Border Patrol kills teen
CIUDAD JUAREZ, Mexico – Mexicans are seething over the second death of a countryman at the hands of U.S. Border Patrol agents in two weeks, an incident near downtown El Paso that is threatening to escalate tensions over migrant issues.
U.S. authorities said Tuesday a Border Patrol agent was defending himself and colleagues when he fatally shot the 15-year-old as officers came under a barrage of big stones while trying to detain illegal immigrants on the U.S. side of the Rio Grande.
About 30 relatives and friends gathered late Tuesday to mourn Sergio Adrian Hernandez Huereka, whose shooting Monday evening came along the border with Texas. He died on the Mexican side of the river.
"Damn them! Damn them!" sobbed Rosario Hernandez, sister of the dead teenager, at a wake in the family's two-room adobe house on the outskirts of Ciudad Juarez.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100609/ap_on_re_us/us_bord...
blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-09-10 05:58 PM
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1. Anglos are seething as US Border Patrol kills teen as well
If we'd put as much passion and thought into poverty in the US AND Mexico, we'd all be so much better off.
Siiigh...
Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-09-10 05:59 PM
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2. I saw an interview with a witness this a.m. --
she said that only a few small stones were thrown and she hadn't seen the kid who was shot actually throwing anything.
Now, we can fix this in a way that is sensible, that is centrist. I have rejected a whole bunch of provisions that the left wanted that are — you know, they were very adamant about because I thought it would be too disruptive to the system.
They were only small stones...
...so leave my glass house alone.
raccoon (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-09-10 06:07 PM
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3. Considering that at first one heard that a "sniper" had been firing at Kent State
and that's why the Ohio Natl Guard started shooting, I'd say what the witness said was quite believable.
But of course!
Kent State = this is true!
Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-09-10 06:19 PM
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4. good God, those border patrol idiots ever heard of starting at minimal force and working their way
up???
oh wait, just a criminal mexicano, nothing to waste a bullet on something like that!!! I want that boy's photo plastered in that son of a bitch's mind who killed him. lazy coward.
Verdict first. Trial later.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8522211
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rocks can kill. They should be allowed to defend themselves from drug traffickers.
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I love it! I want crossing the border illegally to be a gamble. You may die for breaking the laws of the USA.
Try sneaking over the Mexico southern border into Mexico. They will "waterboard" you to death. Or worse.
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The punk was a drug smuggler captured and deported multiple times AND this riotus behavior was yet another smuggling attempt. So the punk gets shot dead. We should send the Border Agent a promotion notice!
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The punk was a drug smuggler captured and deported multiple times AND this riotus behavior was yet another smuggling attempt. So the punk gets shot dead. We should send the Border Agent a promotion notice!
I still think we should put a price on their heads and turn us Bounty Hunters loose on 'em! We're not hogtied like our Border Agents are! I can kick in doors if I just have a suspicion my quarry is inside!
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Back in the day, a friend with the last name of Santos who rented small motorcycles in Austin TX. made additional money selling Mex. pot. He'd drive down, mkaske a buy, wire the pot to the frame of a car with Tex. plates, Fraternity sticker and valid Austin Frat lot parking sticker on it as it was parked in the lot of a Mex. whorehouse. Figuring he had at least 5 min.... :evillaugh: then he'd cross back inti Tex., drive to Austin, and observe the Frat parking lot, and remove the pot after frat lights out. He was never caught.
However, he was ALWAYS thououghly searched upon his return to Tex., as the dealers would have called the Border Agents for the reward if he were caught. As he'd handed it off, he was always "clean". Johnny Cash was caught as he actually brought it back himself.
Yes that was way before the killing began......a game really that at worst would get you a criminal conviction and 6 months fixing tractors at the County Farm. These days, you get your brain blown out or your heart renmoved . No fun at all.
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Back in the day, a friend with the last name of Santos who rented small motorcycles in Austin TX. made additional money selling Mex. pot. He'd drive down, mkaske a buy, wire the pot to the frame of a car with Tex. plates, Fraternity sticker and valid Austin Frat lot parking sticker on it as it was parked in the lot of a Mex. whorehouse. Figuring he had at least 5 min.... :evillaugh: then he'd cross back inti Tex., drive to Austin, and observe the Frat parking lot, and remove the pot after frat lights out. He was never caught.
However, he was ALWAYS thououghly searched upon his return to Tex., as the dealers would have called the Border Agents for the reward if he were caught. As he'd handed it off, he was always "clean". Johnny Cash was caught as he actually brought it back himself.
Yes that was way before the killing began......a game really that at worst would get you a criminal conviction and 6 months fixing tractors at the County Farm. These days, you get your brain blown out or your heart renmoved . No fun at all.
My sister went with an Army PFC back in '72. He tried bringing back Coke in the sweat band of his cap. They arrested him and impounded my sister's car! When she got it back they had thoroughly cut the interior to pieces!
Needless to say, she gave him the heave ho! He ended up doing 2 years in Leavenworth!
DUmbass! Yeah, he was a lib!
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DUmmie says, "Now, we can fix this in a way that is sensible, that is centrist."....yep, centrist....I can live with that....when they reach the center of the river they're dead meat.... :fuelfire:
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I love it! I want crossing the border illegally to be a gamble. You may die for breaking the laws of the USA.
Try sneaking over the Mexico southern border into Mexico. They will "waterboard" you to death. Or worse.
And apparently it's a REALLY bad idea to try to sneak into North Korea from China!
:popcorn:
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blondeatlast (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-09-10 05:58 PM
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1. Anglos are seething as US Border Patrol kills teen as well
If we'd put as much passion and thought into poverty in the US AND Mexico, we'd all be so much better off.
Siiigh...
There is no real poverty in the US, unless self imposed.
I'd also like to know why it is OUR responsibility for poverty in a foreign country.
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He brought a rock to a gunfight.
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Mexican troops pointed guns and chased the Border Patrol away. nice.
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About 30 relatives and friends gathered late Tuesday to mourn Sergio Adrian Hernandez Huereka, whose shooting Monday evening came along the border with Texas. He died on the Mexican side of the river.
"Damn them! Damn them!" sobbed Rosario Hernandez, sister of the dead teenager, at a wake in the family's two-room adobe house on the outskirts of Ciudad Juarez.
This death is a sad terrible thing for EVERYONE involved. I can hardly imagine what could happen to the border agent's career.
Note to lurking DUmmys:
There is this universal kind of like a law of physics, for every action there is an opposite and equal reaction.
In other words, for you simple minded DUmmys - "If you don't like the reaction, don't initiate the cause".
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And apparently it's a REALLY bad idea to try to sneak into North Korea from China!
:popcorn:
You saw that too, eh?
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This death is a sad terrible thing for EVERYONE involved. I can hardly imagine what could happen to the border agent's career.
Ramos and Campeon can tell you what happens next
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Wed Jun-09-10 06:19 PM
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4. good God, those border patrol idiots ever heard of starting at minimal force and working their way
up???
Not how it works, DUmbass. :thatsright:
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I love it! I want crossing the border illegally to be a gamble. You may die for breaking the laws of the USA.
Try sneaking over the Mexico southern border into Mexico. They will "waterboard" you to death. Or worse.
I favor a month long warning process, plaster flyers all over Mexico by airplane, telling them afterwards we will defend our borders by all means necessary. THEN, have the guts to do so. A few strafing rounds of refugee herds ought to drive the point home.
Ah, nevermind, I keep forgetting we're the US of A, where different standards apply for us than Muzzie terrorist regimes or communist murderous ones. :fuelfire:
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We could handle it the way Mexico does:
The official government version describing the events that led to the deaths of 3 students in Reynosa, Tamaulipas on Wednesday June 2 was released on Monday morning.
The attack occurred when persons on board a group of three vehicles noticed the presence of the military and initiated gunfire against the military personnel as they fled in the direction of Nuevo Laredo, Tamps., initiating a chase by the military against the assailants.
At the location of the ejido Cabazos the attackers blocked the road with a Dodge truck manned by four gunmen who opened fire on military personnel with the intention of avoiding prosecution and allowing the flight of the other two vehicles; resulting in three alleged attackers dead and securing three rifles, one handgun and one vehicle; the fourth person who was in the vehicle fled.
The families of the 3 dead minors, Cesar Alejandro Carrizales Cuellar age 15, Eduardo Cuellar Saldana age 17, and Daniel Hernandez Martinez age 13, continue to insist through the Mexican media that the children were students on their way home to Estacion Analduaz.
http://www.borderlandbeat.com/2010/06/army-and-pgr-reports-3-dead-reynosa.html
Already this year almost 100 children have been killed.
Some 913 children were killed in Mexico since December 2006 as part of the fight against drug trafficking, according to an NGO report released Monday. In comparison, from 2000 to 2006, 503 children were killed.
In addition Juan Martin Perez Garcia, the director of the NGO Network for the Rights of Children in Mexico, warned that the number of children that are being incorporated into drug trafficking groups "for lack of alternative livelihoods is outrageous."
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tKX9guL7jhk/TA3wqlvhY8I/AAAAAAAAAIY/rvy1isLeP7Q/s1600/pendejete3.jpg)
2nd from right is Raul "Mini 6" Meza Jr. He was murdered in March, after taking over the 'family biz' when his father was killed.
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If a 15 year old illegal had killed a Border Patrol Officer, the primitives wouldn't even have mentioned it. Or if they did, they'd defend the illegal. Count on it.
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