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Title: Isn't there a law against encouraging US military personnel to mutiny?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 07, 2010, 06:26:21 PM
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BAYONETS DISPERSE GI'S IN FRANKFORT, GERMANY! What U.S. soldiers don't know about their history
   
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 10:17 PM by Better Believe It


BAYONETS DISPERSE GI'S IN FRANKFORT; Armed Guards Break Up March on McNarney's Headquarters to Speed Return Home 20 Reported Arrested Vienna Soldiers Protest 1,800 in London Join Movement
By KATHLEEN McLAUGHLIN By Wireless to THE NEW YORK TIMES.
January 10, 1946

FRANKFORT ON THE MAIN, Germany, Jan. 9--Four thousand United States soldiers in a mutinous mood, who tried to rush headquarters of the United States Forces in the European Theatre here tonight, with the objective of forcing Gen. Joseph T. McNarney to confront them on their demand to be sent home, were stopped at bayonet point by a small group of guards.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70F14F...


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GIS YELL TAUNTS AT GENERAL OF EUROPEAN AREA
Threaten to Hold Protest Meetings Nightly
January 10, 1946

Thousands of irate GIs and WACs, protesting the redeployment slowdown, marched on Gen. McNarney's headquarters tonight, challenging the European theater commander to meet them and loudly criticizing "politicians" for delaying their return home.

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/chicagotribune/access/46284...


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MANILA GI'S DRAFT PROTEST TO ARMY
By ROBERT TRUMBULL By Wireless to THE NEW YORK TIMES.
January 11, 1946

MANILA, Jan. 10--The Manila soldier sentiment against the reduced demobilization crystalized here tonight in a meeting of 156 soldier delegates elected by as many separate Army outfits in the Manila area. The delegates claim to represent 139,000 men, all interested in getting home.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FB0B17F...


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U.S. PRESTIGE DROPS AFTER GI PROTESTS; High Officers Say Occupation of Germany Is Affected
By DREW MIDDLETON By Wireless to THE NEW YORK TIMES.
January 13, 1946

BERLIN, Jan. 12--The recent demonstrations in Frankfort on the Main, Berlin and elsewhere in Germany, in which United States troops clamored to be returned home, have done more than anything else to lower the prestige of the United States in the eyes of the German population and weaken ...

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F10A1FF...


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1,000 GI'S IN SHANGHAI PETITION PATTERSON
January 15, 1946

SHANGHAI, Jan. 14 (AP)--A thousand United States Army enlisted men met Secretary of War Patterson at the airport today and petitioned an opportunity to discuss demands for a mere clear-cut policy on discharges.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70617F...


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EISENHOWER CITES DANGER IN PROTESTS
January 13, 1946

TORONTO, Ont., Jan. 12 (AP)-- The wave of "bring them home" public opinion in the United States is blinding American occupation troops to the importance of the Allies' "unfinished task" in Germany and Japan, United States Chief of Staff Gen. Dwight D. Eisenhower said at a news conference today.

http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F1091FF...


A HIDDEN HISTORY

WHEN GI'S MARCHED AND LED A "BRING THE GI'S HOME" MOVEMENT


January 4, 1946 (Friday)
The United States Department of War announced a slowdown in demobilization of U.S. Army soldiers in the Pacific theater, cutting army discharges by 60 percent, from 800,000 down to 300,000 per month. In the week that followed, American soldiers around the world protested, in the Philippines, France, Guam, Germany, India and the United States. The War Department reversed the decision as a result of pressure from the "'Bring Em Home' Movement".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_1946
Title: Re: Isn't there a law against encouraging US military personnel to mutiny?
Post by: The Village Idiot on June 07, 2010, 06:27:49 PM
SO when leftists march with signs that say "We support the troops that shoot their officers"... its NOT treason, right?
Title: Re: Isn't there a law against encouraging US military personnel to mutiny?
Post by: The Village Idiot on June 07, 2010, 06:31:32 PM
The "mopping up" went on for like 8 years after the NAZI's were defeated. They still had pockets of resistance and individual terrorist-type attacks.
Title: Re: Isn't there a law against encouraging US military personnel to mutiny?
Post by: diesel driver on June 08, 2010, 01:15:03 AM
How convenient....

The only link that works is the Wikipedia one, all the rest go to blank pages....

 :hammer:  DUmmie....
Title: Re: Isn't there a law against encouraging US military personnel to mutiny?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on June 08, 2010, 09:27:42 AM
...Illustrating one of the big downsides to a mass conscript army, and showing that the 'Greatest generation' was really more like ordinary mortals than people nowadays choose to believe.
Title: Re: Isn't there a law against encouraging US military personnel to mutiny?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 08, 2010, 10:11:24 AM
...Illustrating one of the big downsides to a mass conscript army, and showing that the 'Greatest generation' was really more like ordinary mortals than people nowadays choose to believe.
Watch for these threads and cited articles.

I first noticed these articles being posted as a rebuttal to when some of the goons say, "Don't blame the troops they are only obeying the orders given to them."

The gist of this thread is: "troops have all but mutinied in the past to be sent home so if they don't do it today they are morally culpable."
Title: Re: Isn't there a law against encouraging US military personnel to mutiny?
Post by: delilahmused on June 08, 2010, 10:55:56 AM
I thought war and the military were just peachy now that 0 was CinC.

Cindie
Title: Re: Isn't there a law against encouraging US military personnel to mutiny?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on June 08, 2010, 12:36:10 PM
MSB, as you no doubt realize, the phrase 'Apples and oranges' doesn't even come remotely close to describing how far off the mark any comparison between current conditions and those obtaining in 1946.  It's more like comparing dingoes and asteroids.
Title: Re: Isn't there a law against encouraging US military personnel to mutiny?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 08, 2010, 12:41:58 PM
MSB, as you no doubt realize, the phrase 'Apples and oranges' doesn't even come remotely close to describing how far off the mark any comparison between current conditions and those obtaining in 1946.  It's more like comparing dingoes and asteroids.
Be that as it may I'm seeking to address the DUmbass' line of argument that since troops mutinied in the past they are morally obligated to do so today.

The fact that DUmbasses are DUmbasses notwithstanding they are appealing to US troops to mutiny.
Title: Re: Isn't there a law against encouraging US military personnel to mutiny?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on June 08, 2010, 01:25:29 PM
Be that as it may I'm seeking to address the DUmbass' line of argument that since troops mutinied in the past they are morally obligated to do so today.

The fact that DUmbasses are DUmbasses notwithstanding they are appealing to US troops to mutiny.

The irony in that is that they would be rising up against Teh Wun.
Title: Re: Isn't there a law against encouraging US military personnel to mutiny?
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on June 08, 2010, 01:38:59 PM
The irony in that is that they would be rising up against Teh Wun.
These idiots don't know what they want.

Bush is a war criminal because docvtors were recording every instance of waterboarding.

But Obama is now a co-conspirator for not prosecuting.

Bush should be tried and convicted but not necessarily in that order.

As for Obama: none of them seems to know how he should be "dealt with" for his complicity...and "I" have been asking.
Title: Re: Isn't there a law against encouraging US military personnel to mutiny?
Post by: zeitgeist on June 08, 2010, 02:01:48 PM
...Illustrating one of the big downsides to a mass conscript army, and showing that the 'Greatest generation' was really more like ordinary mortals than people nowadays choose to believe.

I was not all that impressed with Browkaw's book of that title either. I would love to have had my mom's take on it. No offense to past generations intended but I think that whole meme has gone a bit stale. 
Title: Re: Isn't there a law against encouraging US military personnel to mutiny?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on June 08, 2010, 04:44:47 PM
I was not all that impressed with Browkaw's book of that title either. I would love to have had my mom's take on it. No offense to past generations intended but I think that whole meme has gone a bit stale. 

Yeah...my Dad and Mom's generation; they rose to the challenge that was thrust upon them, but they had as many warts and blemishes as any other generation.  They did noble service because the times demanded it of them, each in their own small way (Or not in some cases), but they weren't a breed apart.  They did what had to be done, as people always do.