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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on May 31, 2010, 04:24:50 PM
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skip fox (1000+ posts) Mon May-31-10 02:18 PM
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IT IS STILL NOT TOO LATE, MR. PRESIDENT!
Edited on Mon May-31-10 02:19 PM by skip fox
Dear Mr. President,
Your presidency is slipping away. Like many, I realize you had nothing to do with the BP oil spill and that you could have done little after the spill, but James Carville's observations are accurate. You seemed distant, aloof. I know you were deeply concerned, but that is not what the public saw. I am afraid that (even ignoring Fox News) your reaction is doing grave damage to your presidency and our party's chances in the mid-term elections.
But it is still not too late. By discernibly and energetically engaging with the disaster you might not only save your presidency but turn around the mid-term election polls.
Be seen actively taking charge, doing whatever you can, even making a few mistakes, but forging ahead. Call in the best minds, pre-empt tankers, walk the beaches, talk with fishermen and oil men, etc. (This disaster might be exponentially worse than any we've had before. If that is the case, what do you want history to remember in terms of your actions and the public's perceptions?)
Best of all, contact Carville.
Your presidency and our country may ride on it,
Sincerely,
Skip Fox
Just those a few that argue...
TheWraith (1000+ posts) Mon May-31-10 02:20 PM
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1. That's absolutely idiotic.
It's just parroting Fox News talking points about "Obama's Katrina."
countingbluecars (1000+ posts) Mon May-31-10 02:21 PM
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2. His presidency is NOT slipping away. n/t
Yeah..okay.
ecstatic (1000+ posts) Mon May-31-10 02:38 PM
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7. It sounds like you're asking for theatrics... Theatrics mean little to
me. And for the other things you've mentioned, he is ALREADY doing it. Try actually listening for content next time instead of screening for how Oscar-worthy his body language is.
mitchtv (1000+ posts) Mon May-31-10 02:49 PM
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10. Now where did you get that mime?
Let me guess. Most people know what;s going on. and where to lay blame, and it's not Obama nor the govt
lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Mon May-31-10 02:56 PM
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11. Oh God.
(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w64/tmiller915_2007/stfu.gif)
That pretty well refutes it,what a debate point.
volvoblue (53 posts) Mon May-31-10 02:56 PM
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12. I have noticed that everytime someone on the left becomes henny Penny
declaring the sky is falling and the president is toast....the media piles on him more then normal....the repubs think they smell blood and the toadies of the right who call themselves democrats like Carville, well something happens.
Obama manages to make all of the above look like fools.
Stay tuned for fool alert soon. The President seems to already have cut the press out and gave them zero access or photo ops in Chicago this weekend. Pay back
Uhm no..it is because he doesn`t have the first clue what to say.
HughMoran (1000+ posts) Mon May-31-10 02:59 PM
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14. A hearty unrec for this uttlerly pointless attack
Edited on Mon May-31-10 02:59 PM by HughMoran
I'm simple, I let the media shape my thinking.
NOT
Tarheel_Dem (1000+ posts) Mon May-31-10 04:14 PM
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27. Reagan was the actor, remember? Carville? You're kidding right?
Edited on Mon May-31-10 04:17 PM by Tarheel_Dem
The "democratic" strategist who basically told the world that the president should come to the Gulf and put on some award winning performance? How do you think the media will spin that? This president is not Carville's puppet, and I hope he ignores his attention seeking ass, even if that means losing the mid terms, and his own second term.
I find this president to be genuinely empathetic, and attuned to the plight of most Americans, which is why he won a resounding victory in the first place. He can't spend the next two(+) years being the media's bitch, no matter what the headlines. Can you imagine the security & logistical nightmare of the President running to the Gulf every other day, for what would in essence be a photo op?
:edited to add "UNREC"
K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Mon May-31-10 04:20 PM
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28. He is right to not engage GWB type photo ops and besides
The "librul media" wouldn't play along anyway. "Seeming aloof" is not really a serious issue to me, we have important things to worry about sheesh.
Personally I don`t think there is much any President can do with this no matter what party they are from but from the crowd that is forever blaming every thing and Katrina particularly on President Bush this is a display of idiocy to the maximum.
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countingbluecars (1000+ posts) Mon May-31-10 02:21 PM
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2. His presidency is NOT slipping away. n/t
countingbluecars meet Rasmussen:
Overall, 46% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the president's performance. Fifty-four percent (54%) disapprove.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
44% of Likely U.S. Voters would vote for their district's Republican congressional candidate, while 37% would opt for his or her Democratic opponent.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot
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Yeah, it IS too late, DUmmies. Mr. Perfect has done screwed the pooch one time too many, and nobody is buying "It's Bush's fault" this time except the kids who failed to break 50% on the Remedial Thinking for the Incurably Slow-witted final exam.
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Mon May-31-10 04:20 PM
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28. He is right to not engage GWB type photo ops and besides
The "librul media" wouldn't play along anyway. "Seeming aloof" is not really a serious issue to me, we have important things to worry about sheesh.
Like his golf game; he's trying to improve his game and the world just won't leave him alone.
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Mr. Obama is completely incompetent and not all that smart. His personality disorder will not alow him to hire anyone smarter, more expert, or will openly oppose/negatively criticze. him when he's wrong.
With the "sea battle" off Israel, the oil stiill flowing, no real employment improvements, realestate still suffering, Arizona's actions on illegals, defecits starting to anger even democrats leave him further and further slipping into a peculiar world of fantesy. My GOD, what a nightmare! We need to replace the congress, clean sweep in November.
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Let's be clear...Obama is NOT a dummy. He may be a stooge, but he knows DAMN WELL what he's doing.
Either he, or his minions, have orchestrated virtually EVERY response to this disaster. Everyone seems to forget is that the Obama administration, and socialists/communists in general, look at every event and analyze on how to BEST politicize a disaster. This tragedy is a no-brainer to predict.
If you were a campaign manager and wanted to create the maximum sympathy for your side, and the maximum antipathy for the other side, you would do the following:
1. Prevent the company from stopping the oil from spreading to the shore by negating the use of booms using outrageous EPA regs. This also allows you to lambaste the company from not DOING anything in the same breath.
2. Of course, once the oil spreads to the shore, let the media do its thing, making sure the emphasis is on the company for not being able to prevent the oil.
Finally, do what you were planning EVER SINCE THE DISASTER HAPPENED: Come out with new regulations banning drilling and exploration and push your bird-slaughtering pinwheels and solar panel technologies.
This is STRICTLY a political event with them. Nothing else, and don't think for a damn minute that they aren't smart enough to stop this from happening, at least allow the adults to try to stop it.
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Let's be clear...Obama is NOT a dummy. He may be a stooge, but he knows DAMN WELL what he's doing.
Either he, or his minions, have orchestrated virtually EVERY response to this disaster. Everyone seems to forget is that the Obama administration, and socialists/communists in general, look at every event and analyze on how to BEST politicize a disaster. This tragedy is a no-brainer to predict.
If you were a campaign manager and wanted to create the maximum sympathy for your side, and the maximum antipathy for the other side, you would do the following:
1. Prevent the company from stopping the oil from spreading to the shore by negating the use of booms using outrageous EPA regs. This also allows you to lambaste the company from not DOING anything in the same breath.
2. Of course, once the oil spreads to the shore, let the media do its thing, making sure the emphasis is on the company for not being able to prevent the oil.
Finally, do what you were planning EVER SINCE THE DISASTER HAPPENED: Come out with new regulations banning drilling and exploration and push your bird-slaughtering pinwheels and solar panel technologies.
This is STRICTLY a political event with them. Nothing else, and don't think for a damn minute that they aren't smart enough to stop this from happening, at least allow the adults to try to stop it.
It comes down to this acronym--OiiOhh.
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Another thread showing the hypocracy of the primitives. If Bush was saying and doing the exact same things Dear Leader is now, they'd be calling for his head. That truth makes this statement from one of the simpleminded BOG primitives....
HughMoran
A hearty unrec for this uttlerly pointless attack
I'm simple, I let the media shape my thinking.
NOT
.... even more funny. Like most everyone here, I can tell you exactly what position the Dear Leader cult followers are going to take before they get their official orders of what to think and say.
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