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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: sofa king on May 29, 2010, 06:21:31 AM
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Zix (748 posts) Sat May-29-10 05:34 AM
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Can you guys explain your flag thing to this Brit?
I've always been slightly confused by it.
I've seen many threads on this site about the American flag, seen it prettily wafting away, nicely backlit in various movies, stuff like that. You all seem to really, really like it.
Now... the Union Jack...:
(ugly looking thing. I've never liked it...)
... is a bit of a figure of fun in the UK. You're much more likely to see it on baseball boots or T-shirts or coloured in wrong in the UK. Nobody "respects" it. It doesn't really symbolise, to me, a set of ideas, but stands as a psychic place holder for "those guys over there, you know, the black pudding eating bumbling jokey guys that sing "always look on the bright side of life" at the drop of a hat."
Its sort of silly. Maybe that's because British people are!
What we have instead is the royal family. But... we don't really take THEM very seriously, either. We do think setting fire to them is probably bad, I guess.
I genuinely don't understand what you're thinking when you think about your flag.
Can you tell me?
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I just don't think we really have an equivalent over here.
sure thing, governor...
see, that flag is the reason you are posting your complaint in english today. sprechen sie deutsches? you would if it wasn't for that flag.
if it wasn't for that flag, the one you "don't understand what you're thinking when you think about" things... that flag that saved your ass from speaking german for all of your life, that flag that probably is the reason you are even alive today...
yeah, that flag you sorry f'ing limey piece of shit.
that flag that you should bow down to every day. that flag that every real american is proud of every day, especially on this memorial day weekend.
yeah, that flag. we love that flag. it means truth and freedom and liberty. all of the shit you get to live now, because of that flag. without that flag? you would be f'ked today. understand that, asshole.
that's what we think about that flag...
blerg... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8443027 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8443027)
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Most English seem to really like the flag during the World Cup.. Find any World cup image on the web, and England's flag will be all over the place.
So much so that new laws passed have forbidden taxis and other public vehicles from flying them out of their windows. - http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/surrey/8709173.stm
And as for those flag waving English -- http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&q=england%20world%20cup%20flag&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi
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Well blimey you limey, you're the equivalent of an American democrat. German, Japanese, Russian, Chinese, Korean, Arabic, any of those languages tickle your fancy? I hope you find one you like because you'll be speaking it one day.
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Isn't the Union Jack the new flag of Islam?
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Isn't the Union Jack the new flag of Islam?
Muslims comprise just under 3% of the population of Britain, so I'd say not.
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Muslims comprise just under 3% of the population of Britain, so I'd say not yet.
figst
:-)
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Muslims comprise just under 3% of the population of Britain, so I'd say not.
But they appear to have about 97% of the political power.
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If I see the flag when I am all serious and its quiet I think about a lot of things like veterans and liberty, I might get choked up, a pit in my stomach and glassy eyed and
melancholy - however thats spelled.
Our flag means for something, it represents something noble.
Probably why Barack H Obama doesn't like them. Notice his speech at the tar balls, no flsg, notice his last press conference, no flags.
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sure thing, governor...
see, that flag is the reason you are posting your complaint in english today. sprechen sie deutsches? you would if it wasn't for that flag.
if it wasn't for that flag, the one you "don't understand what you're thinking when you think about" things... that flag that saved your ass from speaking german for all of your life, that flag that probably is the reason you are even alive today...
yeah, that flag you sorry f'ing limey piece of shit.
that flag that you should bow down to every day. that flag that every real american is proud of every day, especially on this memorial day weekend.
yeah, that flag. we love that flag. it means truth and freedom and liberty. all of the shit you get to live now, because of that flag. without that flag? you would be f'ked today. understand that, asshole.
that's what we think about that flag...
blerg... http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8443027 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8443027)
I love that answer! can't find a clap smiley so this will have to due :cheersmate:
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melancholy
That's the correct spelling. No strikeout necessary.
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But they appear to have about 97% of the political power.
It might appear that way from the US, but that's not the way it is. Baroness Warsi (http://www.conservatives.com/People/Peers/Warsi_Sayeeda.aspx) is actually the most senior muslim politician yet she doesn't run a department of state. Not saying that elements of the muslim community aren't a problem, but to liken it to having 97% of the power is rather like me assuming that the US is defined by Detroit and the Folsom Street Fair. Just because something exists and makes the news doesn't mean it is widespread.
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It might appear that way from the US, but that's not the way it is. Baroness Warsi (http://www.conservatives.com/People/Peers/Warsi_Sayeeda.aspx) is actually the most senior muslim politician yet she doesn't run a department of state. Not saying that elements of the muslim community aren't a problem, but to liken it to having 97% of the power is rather like me assuming that the US is defined by Detroit and the Folsom Street Fair. Just because something exists and makes the news doesn't mean it is widespread.
If the DUchebags have their way, it will be.
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This for once should be a learning opportunity for the lurkers here. The reason why we love our country and our flag is simple. It's the difference between SUBJECT and CITIZEN that makes us love our flag as the symbol of our country because we have the freedom to. Unlike your country where you can not even fart in the wrong key towards anyone without the government regulating the time and distance you can do it in.
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Johnny Cash- This Old Flag
[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whmVGRSgAe8&[/youtube]
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Johnny Cash- This Old Flag
Thanks.
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Zix, you'll just never get it, so no, we can't explain it in terms that would make sense to you. In your tradition the national flag is roughly the equivalent of the contenders' towels in a boxing match, used to signify the forced change in title of ships when one side has had enough, which was usually the French until you ran into our derisively-nicknamed "Fir-built frigates" like the USS Constitution in the War of 1812's frigate battles. To you, the Star-Spangled Banner flying bravely after a night of bombardment at Ft. McHenry was just an indication that your mortar and rocket aim wasn't quite what you wanted in accuracy, but to us it was ever so much more than that, and you simply would not ever get it.
The closest equivalent you really have is the military tradition of safeguarding the regimental colors at all costs, down to the life of the last man standing. Of course so few Englishmen currently in public life have actually served their country's military with devotion, vise time-serving in unimportant peacetime duties, that the example is no longer really meaningful for you, particularly considering you are apparently a Progressive buffoon who views the world through the lens of Monty Python silliness in the first place.
And I mean no insult to the good and true Brits who remain, imperiled with extinction as they sometimes seem to be, such as our own beloved Bijou or the 'Foot, horse and marine' serving almost thanklessly in far-flung corners of the world to uphold the right.
No Zix, you just wouldn't understand.