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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: bijou on May 28, 2010, 06:31:07 AM
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Thousands of census workers, including many temporary employees, are fanning out across America to gather information on the citizenry. This is a process that takes place not only every decade in order to complete the constitutionally-mandated census; but also as part of the continuing “American Community Survey†conducted by the Census Bureau on a regular basis year in and year out.
What many Americans don’t realize, is that census workers — from the head of the Bureau and the Secretary of Commerce (its parent agency) down to the lowliest and newest Census employee — are empowered under federal law to actually demand access to any apartment or any other type of home or room that is rented out, in order to count persons in the abode and for “the collection of statistics.†If the landlord of such apartment or other leased premises refuses to grant the government worker access to your living quarters, whether you are present or not, the landlord can be fined $500.00. ...
http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2010/05/26/census-workers-can-enter-your-apartment-in-your-absence/
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This is a pretty liberal reading of the code! The relevant language is at Title 13, Chapter 7, Subchapter II, § 223 of the US Code. The section prevents the owner or manger of “any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building†from refusing to provide a list of the buildings occupants or providing access to “such premisesâ€. This means a building’s owner or manger cannot refuse to let a census worker into or out of the building and cannot refuse to provide a list of occupants for the purpose of the census count. The penalty for refusal is $500. No where in the section does it authorize entry into individual apartments, lodgings, or “living quartersâ€.
The relevant code section is found at: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html
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I don't know about a hotel/motel....but I don't believe it's legal to enter anyone's home - apartment or house....without permission or a court signed warrant.
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This is a pretty liberal reading of the code! The relevant language is at Title 13, Chapter 7, Subchapter II, § 223 of the US Code. The section prevents the owner or manger of “any hotel, apartment house, boarding or lodging house, tenement, or other building†from refusing to provide a list of the buildings occupants or providing access to “such premisesâ€. This means a building’s owner or manger cannot refuse to let a census worker into or out of the building and cannot refuse to provide a list of occupants for the purpose of the census count. The penalty for refusal is $500. No where in the section does it authorize entry into individual apartments, lodgings, or “living quartersâ€.
The relevant code section is found at: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode13/usc_sec_13_00000223—-000-.html
Wait 'til they see my definition of 'unlawful entry' in this 'Castle Doctrine' state. It goes hand in hand with my belief that 'I was in fear for my life, your honor'. :evillaugh:
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Wait 'til they see my definition of 'unlawful entry' in this 'Castle Doctrine' state. It goes hand in hand with my belief that 'I was in fear for my life, your honor'. :evillaugh:
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Wait 'til they see my definition of 'unlawful entry' in this 'Castle Doctrine' state. It goes hand in hand with my belief that 'I was in fear for my life, your honor'. :evillaugh:
It's the same here....if someone comes into your house in "unlawful entry" ....you can shoot first and ask questions later. It the person who enters is shot dead....it's "oh well, they shouldn't have been there in the first place!"
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I like Texas' laws. Trespassers can be shot and killed. They don't necessarily need to be in the house.
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I like Texas' laws. Trespassers can be shot and killed. They don't necessarily need to be in the house.
I think here they either have to be in the process of entering, inside or just leaving and still on the property.
I know just recently some old guy, in an adjacent county, shot a guy -dead - as he was entering the house. Nothing happened to the man, except for a lot of people going " Hell, yeah!"
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In Minnesota, the criminal has to be inside the house. In Texas, it's preferred that the criminal be attempting to gain access to the inside of a person's house, but just trespassing on one's property can get them killed. A good example is if I caught someone trying to break into my storage shed. I COULD shoot them and kill them and be in the "right". Of course, it's always best to have a "throwaway knife" handy. ;)
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This is a pretty liberal reading of the code!
That is how the government reads the codes.
Remember McCain-Feingold was suppose to limit 3rd party TV-radio ads 30 days or so before an election?
In court with Citizens United, Elena Kagan described it as giving the admin the power to regulate any media at all, books, magazines,kindle downloads, videos. films, web downloads and anything else.
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Wait 'til they see my definition of 'unlawful entry' in this 'Castle Doctrine' state. It goes hand in hand with my belief that 'I was in fear for my life, your honor'. :evillaugh:
Ab-so-fluckin-loutely. Go ahead and force your way on in to count. Just don't be surprised by the fatal form of exit it earns ya.
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In Minnesota, the criminal has to be inside the house. In Texas, it's preferred that the criminal be attempting to gain access to the inside of a person's house, but just trespassing on one's property can get them killed. A good example is if I caught someone trying to break into my storage shed. I COULD shoot them and kill them and be in the "right". Of course, it's always best to have a "throwaway knife" handy. ;)
Thor, how does one shoot someone with a throw away knife. :lmao: :
The only people I know of to have throw a way guns are Cops. These are handy dandy tools the cops need to get some jobs done.
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Good luck with that. If they get past my gate, they can also get past my dogs. Won't be pretty, nor will it be my fault.
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Good luck with that. If they get past my gate, they can also get past my dogs. Won't be pretty, nor will it be my fault.
Soleil, most states have a law that the home owner has to give access to their front door.
Say girl scouts try to gain access to your front door to sell you cookies and your dogs chew them up.
Lord forbid a UPS driver attempts to deliver Xmas presents sent by family and the dogs chew them all up.
You can post Beware of the dogs but unless it is in 35 different languages you have a problem when someone who cannot read at all comes to your door.