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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Ballygrl on May 24, 2010, 12:40:45 PM
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ensho (1000+ posts) Mon May-24-10 10:31 AM
Jindal has taken charge - a great move on his part
saw him on CNN last night. the man was fully in the moment and showed that he did give a damn about his state and his people.
he and his team gave up on BP, the Coast Guard and the US govt. and are doing all they can to protect La and its people.
I give him big props.
no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Mon May-24-10 10:35 AM
3. If he hopes to have a political career in the future, he had to.
So does that mean Obama realizes he has no political future?
KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Mon May-24-10 10:36 AM
4. DU'ers cheerleading for Jindal. JUST SICK
nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Mon May-24-10 10:38 AM
7. my take here is that DUers are applauding that someone is taking charge --
this is not partisan.
KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Mon May-24-10 10:39 AM
Response to Reply #7
10. Jindal isn't taking charge. And yes, it is partisan.
Someone is PMS'ing
KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Mon May-24-10 10:44 AM
19. HILARIOUS. You think anything Jindal is doing will save LA's ecosystem? You think anything
Edited on Mon May-24-10 10:44 AM by KittyWampus
Jindal DID BEFORE THIS would have stopped the catastrophe?
You don't think every single Republican is going to use this for partisan gain?
You think Liberals shouldn't use this for progress in regulating oil drilling and alternative fuels? REALLY?
If you think for one nanosecond politics doesn't enter into this whole thing you live in la-la land. And in denial.
I hope other americans will go and help. if La gets oiled we ALL will suffer.
rudy23 (1000+ posts) Mon May-24-10 10:40 AM
12. Jindal outperforming Obama in a position of leadership is sick, yet here it is.
I can't stand Jindal, but he looks a lot better than Obama here.
KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Mon May-24-10 10:41 AM
14. No, the disaster doesn't transcend politics. The reactions posted thus far prove DU'ers
live in a bubble.
dgibby (1000+ posts) Mon May-24-10 01:10 PM
63. Always happens when anyone dares to criticize the POTUS.
There are some here who are quite intolerant of a difference of opinion, and will do their best to shut it down.
Not very democratic,imo, but it only reinforces my belief that I have the RIGHT to disagree and to EXPRESS that disagreement. Trying to shut down discussion is tantamount to waving a red flag in front of a bull, as far as I'm concerned.
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Mon May-24-10 11:41 AM
41. True. Nature abhors a vacuum. This is a sterling opportunity for Obama to come out
forcefully against a wealthy, immoral corporation and take back the message of populist anger from the teabaggers. I just heard he is traveling to LA today. I hope he has some harsh words for BP and announces we are taking over direction of operations from BP. He really needs to convey a message of standing up for the people against BP and a take charge attitude. And he needs to call out the GOP for their proposed bailout of BP.
I can't believe we knocked that little twerp Jindal off the national stage and he's managing to get back up there on an issue that should belong to the Democrats. This is the wrong time to abdicate.
Ridiculous how they feel they're entitled to own all environmental issues.
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Mon May-24-10 01:02 PM
62. Jindal still sucks charisma out of a room, and I doubt Obama will run again. nt
Oh wow! 1st time I heard a lib say that. :o
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Mon May-24-10 11:41 AM
41. True. Nature abhors a vacuum. This is a sterling opportunity for Obama to come out forcefully against a wealthy, immoral corporation.
"Obama biggest recipient of BP cash in 20 years" (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,44530.0.html)
Wishful thinking, ponies, and unicorns...
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When exactly did these twerps knock Jindal off the national stage? me thinks they over estimate their power just a tad. Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!111111
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Jindal is just doing what a GOP executive should do. That is what is needed right now.
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OOoooOOOOooohhhh, KittyWampus is an angry little kitty!
:rotf:
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Jindal is just doing what a GOP executive should do. That is what is needed right now.
That's what scares some of them, and what a dilemma to be in? panic about what they see as an environmental disaster and the person coming in to save the day for them is a Republican.
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I wish Jindal gave a crap when one of his own staffers gets the crap beat out of her by leftwing union thugs
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The dummies keep looking for their man to stand up and take charge, but keep forgetting they didn't elect one.
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Well, the flavor of the thread over there is now "stick your partisan politics where the sun don't shine, we're trying to save my state! Bobby's an OK guy." They are none too happy with the boy king. I'm starting to hear alot of grumbling in the world outside of the internets, too.
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Well, the flavor of the thread over there is now "stick your partisan politics where the sun don't shine, we're trying to save my state! Bobby's an OK guy." They are none too happy with the boy king. I'm starting to hear alot of grumbling in the world outside of the internets, too.
Lord Zero is starting to take heat from the MSM regarding his inaction on this. :popcorn:
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"Obama biggest recipient of BP cash in 20 years" (http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,44530.0.html)
Wishful thinking, ponies, and unicorns...
I have begun to think this "disaster" is by design.
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I have begun to think this "disaster" is by design.
That would explain some of their lack of action. I don't think they caused the explosion, but that wouldn't stop them from exacerbating the problem through inaction to make the environmental/economic damages worse. Never let a crisis go to waste.
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If that turns out to be true, not only are impeachments and firings in order, but also prison time. That includes the Kenyan.
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I have begun to think this "disaster" is by design.
I'm holding my opinion until I see a chickenwire and cinder block model.
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I have begun to think this "disaster" is by design.
CT thinking starts when you begin seeing clever Machiavellian planning where chance and simple incompetence provide an adequate explanation.
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CT thinking starts when you begin seeing clever Machiavellian planning where chance and simple incompetence provide an adequate explanation.
While I agree with you, DAT, I also see the cabal in the WH chortling with glee over this, to be able to wring the most mileage out of it that they can. Thing is, right now, they're screwing the pooch big-time in their response.
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CT thinking starts when you begin seeing clever Machiavellian planning where chance and simple incompetence provide an adequate explanation.
That would be "Hanlon's Razor": Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Of course, that concept does a double backflip when powers decide to be Machiavellian, but their inherent stupidity jams their own boots up their asses.
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CT thinking starts when you begin seeing clever Machiavellian planning where chance and simple incompetence provide an adequate explanation.
Granted, the boy puppet "president" is an incompetent of no consequence, but as fast as his masters have been able to move these last sixteen months in order to realize their goals, I'm not writing this "oil spill" down as a complete accident. The inaction, the political contributions, it's adding up.
By the law of odds, all CTs cannot be wrong.
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I have begun to think this "disaster" is by design.
I just think he's incompetent and the job is waaaay over his head. Whatever college education he got (and who knows since we don't have his transcripts) filled his petty little Marxist brain with theory with know real world knowledge or experience. I think he truly believed he could rush in, make us a socialist nation and the world would be full of rainbows and unicorns and he'd be made president for life. Instead, he's finding out it's a real job and voting present just won't cut it.
Cindie
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I think he truly believed he could rush in, make us a socialist nation and the world would be full of rainbows and unicorns and he'd be made president for life. Instead, he's finding out it's a real job and voting present just won't cut it.
Cindie
Ditto. I think you nailed it, Cindie.
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Aside from just harassing Undies in my post, in a way I do agree with BSS. There are some idiots in the Oministration who think they can plot a path to benefit the Dems and their platform on this in several ways, in that they see it angering the populace against the 'Drill' crowd, existing Republican administrations in the Gulf shore states, and corporations generally. These individuals, probably including Rahmbo, see this as an opportunity to be cynically used to break opponents and pave the way for cap-and-trade as a comprehensive re-do of the entire energy program.
However, they are quite mistaken in this approach, since the one thing the vast majority of the American electorate expects of the President and the Federal executive, all across the spectrum of mainstream voters, is that when shit breaks, they fix it. That ain't happening, and even the lap-dogs in the MSM are beginning to look up at the President with a 'My bowl's empty, where's the damned dog food, genius?' look on their faces.
I don't think Obama is that 'smart,' which in this case is a blessing for him, because the guys thinking those mistaken thoughts are busy being 'too smart by half.' Obama himself is just a photogenic and personable guy with a resonant voice, but the soul of an incompetent ditherer. He gives good speeches when they're fed to him and signs books written for him, but as his incessant harping on everything Bush shows he hasn't a clue about taking charge - or above all responsibility - for what happens on his watch.
He expected to benefit heavily from the natural upturn of the economy after it bottomed out, but his own policies and ineptitude in both foreign and economic affairs have prevented that from playing out as hoped, so he keeps dropping back to punt the Bush meme.