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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on May 23, 2010, 04:56:08 PM
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Sun May-23-10 01:42 PM
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What the Hell does it take to convince America the Republican Party is inept, self serving, and a
bunch of greedy dudes and dudettes?
Ya would think 8 years of Bush woulda done it...
or their track record of pouting shouting obstructionism....their bully traits, their stance on climate change, etc
Why is it they cling to Wasila mooselady and her lipton bagsZ?
or Newt the loser?
or Rush the real leader of the GOP?
or Beck the cultist?
Where are their ideas to help fix the Nation/Planet?
Who is in Charge of the GOP? it ain't Bush as it normally happens to ex presidents...he ain;t shit these daze
it ain't cheney who does not warrant a cap C?
How is it they still exist given their utter failure on every level???
Another well written and properly capitalized post from the super geniuses among us.
LiberalLoner (968 posts) Sun May-23-10 01:45 PM
Response to Original message
1. The R's are big bullies, and many in America LOVE bullies. n/t
opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Sun May-23-10 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #37
41. They actually confirm w3ith their revealed traits of arrogance and
pouty shouty blame game...
They impede our pursuit of Happiness with a passion/obssession
In other words...I want my pony dammit!!!!!
opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Sun May-23-10 02:14 PM
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10. Ya would think their extremeism would be a turn off....unless their base is just as nuts as they are
No dude,it is your lunacy when laid open and not lied about with hopey changey bs that is rejected.
Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Sun May-23-10 02:16 PM
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13. Nice try, but not very close
the reason the Dems don't "present a coherent and robust alternative" is that they have no media access. Period.
Damn ABC,NBC,CBS,AP,The NYT,MSNBC,CNN...etc,they just aren`t getting the message out there.
Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Sun May-23-10 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. No, if they had media access, you would HEAR a coherent alternative
Edited on Sun May-23-10 02:28 PM by Doctor_J
and it would not be overrun with fascist propaganda like it is now. Feingold/Merkley/Boxer would actually get their plans broadcast. the "Center" would not be halfway between Obama and Beck, it would be halfway between Obama and Kucinich. You would get saturation coverage of cheney's crimes and cowardice, of Bush's drunkeness and stupidity, of Gingrinch's adultery, Beck's mental illness and arrest for rape, and Palin's corruption as governor.
As I said below, this political paradigm in the US will change the day after Big Media is wiped out, and not before.
Edit: as for local dems no knowing what the "big plan" is, a glance at the topics should tell you that a LOT of Dems are addicted to hate radio and Cabal News.
Silence them!!!
Politicub (1000+ posts) Sun May-23-10 02:02 PM
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6. Education - which is why the GOP wants to destroy
our educational system and make it harder and harder for people to go to college.
With an educated populace, they would be toast. Sadly, we're going the other way.
Says the ilk that wants to have Marilyn Monroe and Madonna in textbooks but not our true history fighting for freedoms.
ChoppinBroccoli (528 posts) Sun May-23-10 02:12 PM
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9. Because Politics Has Become A Sporting Event.............
..........and the Republicans are "their team." And people don't care whether it's good for the country or not, they just want "their team" to win so they can go in to work the next day, puff out their chests, and brag, "We won, so neener neener neener." I've seen people adopt positions because they're Republican positions despite the fact that they directly contradict what they believe in their own personal lives, or what's best for themselves (because disagreement makes you disloyal, remember?) Actually, I see this happening with shocking regularity. How many "Young Republicans" do YOU know who were out getting drunk and chasing skirts on Saturday night, and then found out that the Republican Party was for "family values" and started preaching the evils of doing that exact thing?
Here's the worst example. I have a friend who in all other respects is a great person, but is a rabid right-wing, Rush-listening shill for the Republican Party. At the time of this conversation, he was a high school teacher (he's since gone back to school hoping to become a college professor--because we all know how much Republicans like college professors, right?), and we were talking on the phone the night after a state-wide vote. Among the many issues on the ballot was a levy issue for HIS SCHOOL. He asked me if I voted for this and that, and I answered him, then I half-jokingly asked him if he voted for his school levy. He asked me if I did, and I said yes, I ALWAYS vote to support education. He told me he voted AGAINST his own school's levy. I asked him why and his answer was, "My taxes are high enough." I about fell over. Not only was this school notorious for voting down levies, and had gotten to the point where they were about to start making DRASTIC cuts (forget all the extracurriculars, this school was talking about cutting busing, as well as firing some of the teachers with the least amount of seniority--of which MY FRIEND WAS ONE!!!)
I always knew that most Republicans voted that way even though it was directly against their own best interests, but I just figured most of them were too dumb to realize it. This guy actually voted to cut his own throat.........KNOWINGLY. Because he valued his ideology over his own well-being.
It's "my team, right or wrong." These idiots actually root for "wins" and "losses" like the Republican Party is their favorite sporting team. It would be funny if it weren't so sad. AND if they weren't dragging the entire country down with them.
Oh look...a bouncy.
opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Sun May-23-10 02:17 PM
Response to Reply #9
15. Apparently, your friend has swallowed the cool aid and common sense is now voided
You have proved yourself an illiterate idiot so please stop now.
opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Sun May-23-10 04:26 PM
Response to Reply #35
38. Sorry bout the link...Yup the Uber Rich prolly running the show via PsyOp Brainwashin efforts
but its their Base and its reluctence to confront Reality/Sanity/Truth
This rejection reveals a weakness in all efforts to improve our collective lot
You know you need chicken wire and cinder blocks to prove that.
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LiberalLoner (968 posts) Sun May-23-10 01:45 PM
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1. The R's are big bullies, and many in America LOVE bullies. n/t
What group recently trespassed on private property to terrorize a 14 year old kid that was home alone. Which president is constantly abusing his position to attack civilians that disagree with. The answer isn't Republicans.
Who has called for pitchforks and torches to terrorize the wealthy, or anyone for that matter? Who was it that beat up a guy in a wheel chair? Who bit a person that disagreed with them?
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Sun May-23-10 01:42 PM
Original message
What the Hell does it take to convince America the Republican Party is inept, self serving, and a bunch of greedy dudes and dudettes?
The GOP had control of both houses for over a decade with a two-term President in office before they started pissing people off. Obama, Reid, and Pelosi managed to do it in less than 4.
You guys rock.
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I'm greedy? I'm a bully? We impede DUmmie happiness? they have the Presidency, Senate and Congress yet they're still unhappy? catch a clue, your being unhappy is your own doing.
And the Democrats have NO MEDIA ACCESS? :lmao: that has to be a mole!
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I'm greedy? I'm a bully? We impede DUmmie happiness? they have the Presidency, Senate and Congress yet they're still unhappy? catch a clue, your being unhappy is your own doing.
And the Democrats have NO MEDIA ACCESS? :lmao:that has to be a mole!
I honestly think in their delusion they believe that.
To them anything short of imprisonment of those speaking contrary beliefs is unfair.
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The GOP had control of both houses for over a decade with a two-term President in office before they started pissing people off. Obama, Reid, and Pelosi managed to do it in less than 1.
You guys rock.
fixed
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What group recently trespassed on private property to terrorize a 14 year old kid that was home alone. Which president is constantly abusing his position to attack civilians that disagree with. The answer isn't Republicans.
Who has called for pitchforks and torches to terrorize the wealthy, or anyone for that matter? Who was it that beat up a guy in a wheel chair? Who bit a person that disagreed with them?
Heck who got rid of the kid?
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/36/Inselian.jpg)
Why Rambo Reno and crew that's who.
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I honestly think in their delusion they believe that.
To them anything short of imprisonment of those speaking contrary beliefs is unfair.
Oh yeah, they do believe it, you can tell they pretty much live in an insulated world.
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DUmmies wanting a goodly part of what someone else has worked hard for is greed in my book.
DUmmies idea of happiness is living the ultraprotected life of a 6 year old for 100 years.
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DUmmies wanting a goodly part of what someone else has worked hard for is greed in my book.
DUmmies idea of happiness is living the ultraprotected life of a 6 year old, with an unlimited credit card that someone else pays for 100 years.
fify
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This guy actually voted to cut his own throat.........KNOWINGLY. Because he valued his ideology over his own well-being.
Putting the good of the country before the good of the self. Imagine that.
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Sun May-23-10 02:02 PM
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6. Education - which is why the GOP wants to destroy
our educational system and make it harder and harder for people to go to college.
With an educated populace, they would be toast. Sadly, we're going the other way.
Well, the left has had control of education for decades you'd think everyone would be smart by now. Decades of brainwashing and the American spirit is alive and well. That must gall you. Not everyone needs or wants to go to college. One of the most successful people I know has a high school education. He's opening his second lighting store, even in this economy. It's not a one size fits all world but for a group of people who consider themselves all progressive and unique and smart and all you sure want everyone to be the same. You just can't handle people who don't think just like you. Sometimes people don't fit in neat little boxes of race, gender, sexual orientation, or thought.
Cindie
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Well, the left has had control of education for decades you'd think everyone would be smart by now. Decades of brainwashing and the American spirit is alive and well. That must gall you. Not everyone needs or wants to go to college. One of the most successful people I know has a high school education. He's opening his second lighting store, even in this economy. It's not a one size fits all world but for a group of people who consider themselves all progressive and unique and smart and all you sure want everyone to be the same. You just can't handle people who don't think just like you. Sometimes people don't fit in neat little boxes of race, gender, sexual orientation, or thought.
Cindie
Some of us didn't have the discipline for college, even if we did have the smarts for it.
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Sun May-23-10 01:42 PM
Original message
What the Hell does it take to convince America the Republican Party is inept, self serving, and a
bunch of greedy dudes and dudettes?
How about the bunch of Democrat inept, self-serving, and greedy dudes and dudettes currently serving in office....
Ya would think 8 years of Bush woulda done it...
Lord Zero undone it in less than 1 year....
or their track record of pouting shouting obstructionism....their bully traits, their stance on climate change, etc
The Dems showed us how to be pouting, shouting, bullying, obstructionist. We learned from the best. As for "climate change", we make up our own minds, not blindly follow a divinity college dropout....
Why is it they cling to Wasila mooselady and her lipton bagsZ?
We could ask you the same question. What is it with the left's obsession with Mrs. Palin?
or Newt the loser?
Newt resigned, he didn't loose....
or Rush the real leader of the GOP?
If he was, your "dreams" of being in a Haliburton/Walmart/Target detention center would be a reality....
or Beck the cultist?
He's got "the One" pegged, don't he....
Where are their ideas to help fix the Nation/Planet?
Who says the Planet needs fixing? As for the Nation, November is coming, baby!
Who is in Charge of the GOP? it ain't Bush as it normally happens to ex presidents...he ain;t shit these daze
Yet, he still gets blamed for all the woes of our republic, by the weak-minded nimrods who now control our government. Wait! That would be Democrats, wouldn't it....
it ain't cheney who does not warrant a cap C?
I wouldn't be too sure about that. Cheney and Lord Rove are watching you, taking notes, listing names....
How is it they still exist given their utter failure on every level???
Because as bad as the Republican party is, the Democrat party is worse. Republicans vote their failures out of office and let Democrats have a shot at it. Democrats have elevated failure to a fine art form....
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they have no media access. Period.
This warrants a :mental:
I'm scared to row over and see the whole thread, the insanity might rub off.
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Some of us didn't have the discipline for college, even if we did have the smarts for it.
If they pass the DREAM Act, it won't matter anyway. The colleges will be filled with illegals.
The legislation, introduced by Sen. Richard Durbin (D-Ill.) and Rep. Howard Berman (D-Calif.), is a broad amnesty measure disguised as an educational initiative that would allow millions of illegal aliens who meet a very loose definition of “student†to qualify for green cards. In addition, it provides in-state tuition benefits for illegal aliens that will displace legal residents competing for a fixed number of college admission slots and taxpayer subsidies.
“The DREAM Act would not only allow millions of newly legalized illegal aliens to compete for their jobs, but allow them to compete for their own children’s educational opportunities. With private university tuitions already out of reach for most middle class families, and tuitions at public universities rising three times faster than median family incomes, the DREAM Act would be more than a reward for illegal aliens. It would crush the hopes and dreams of countless American families trying to provide opportunities to their own children.â€
http://politisite.com/2009/03/28/the-dream-act-illegal-alien-amnesty-a-bad-idea-at-the-worst-possible-time-says-fair/
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts)
"J" as in "Jackass"....
Sun May-23-10 02:26 PM
Response to Reply #16
18. No, if they had media access, you would HEAR a coherent alternative
and it would not be overrun with fascist propaganda like it is now. Feingold/Merkley/Boxer would actually get their plans broadcast.
Fascist propaganda? You mean like CnoBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, NYT, etc. Have you stopped to think that maybe, just maybe, that BECAUSE their "plans" are broadcast IS the problem?
the "Center" would not be halfway between Obama and Beck, it would be halfway between Obama and Kucinich.
If the media was as "hard right" as you claim, the center would be between Rush and Marco Rubio....
You would get saturation coverage of cheney's crimes and cowardice...
Name one "crime"....
of Bush's drunkeness and stupidity...
Now which is it? Either Bush was too stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time, or he was the evil genius behind 9-11....
of Gingrinch's adultery...
But not Klintoon's....
Beck's mental illness and arrest for rape...
Try Beck's treatment for alcoholism and no arrest record whatsoever. Heck, with the life he led in college, drinking, partying, and smoking weed, he could be one of you, except he grew a brain....
and Palin's corruption as governor.
An assumption made by leftist that so far has resulted in ZERO results of any corruption whatsoever....
As I said below, this political paradigm in the US will change the day after Big Media is wiped out, and not before.
IOW, SILENCE Fox News and Talk Radio. They are "pissing in our corn flakes"....
Edit: as for local dems no knowing what the "big plan" is, a glance at the topics should tell you that a LOT of Dems are addicted to hate radio and Cabal News.
As far as DUmmies "no knowing" what the "real world" is, turning off MTV, getting off your ASS and getting a JOB (outside of academia and government) will do wonders for your perception of reality....
Oh, yeah, scrape the crayon scribble off the monitor when you are done, OK!
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I has been my opinion for the longest time that the more intelligent people have been able to brush off the liberal brainwashing in the schools. It takes a stronger mind not to follow the rest of the sheep.
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If they pass the DREAM Act, it won't matter anyway. The colleges will be filled with illegals. http://politisite.com/2009/03/28/the-dream-act-illegal-alien-amnesty-a-bad-idea-at-the-worst-possible-time-says-fair/
Combine the DREAM Act with the recent takeover of the student loan system by the Feds and we could end up with only minorities going to college.