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Title: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: Freeper on May 19, 2010, 09:30:29 AM
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Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need single payer!
   
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad HCR passed. I think it's an important first step, but we have a loooong way to go.

Here's my story: I just had a miscarriage a few weeks ago, and it was what the medical community calls a "missed abortion", meaning that my body just did NOT want to give up on the pregnancy, even though it was over. Medication didn't make my body expel it, so after a week I had an emergency D & C. A very simple, straightforward procedure, done at the hospital by my regular ob/gyn on a Sunday night (at her recommendation). It's not even really "surgery" since no actual cutting of my body ocurred. Although it was done under general anesthetic in the OR.

Here's the bill I got in the mail yesterday from the hospital:

Pharmacy - $178
Pharmacy IV - $200
Sterile supply - $245
Laboratory - $45
Chemistry - $25
Hematology - $111
Urology - $86
Pathology - $250
OR Services - $5786
Anesthesia - $1096
Drugs - $600
Recovery Room - $2790

Total - $11,413!!!!!

For a D & C?!?!?

I just had my follow up with my ob/gyn yesterday, and she reported that the amount she will get paid for the procedure is about $200!

I'm just praying that my insurance will cover most of this. Lately they've been very grumpy with me and denying a lot of claims. I've had a run of bad health luck lately.

What provisions of HCR have taken effect? Can they drop me for costing them too much any more? Also, when do lifetime maximums go away? The paperwork I get from my insurance company still shows my lifetime maximum.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8367291

I thought the bill that Pelosi Reid and Obama passed was supposed to fix that. That's what I get for listening to them I guess.  :lmao:
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: CC27 on May 19, 2010, 09:40:47 AM
They have insurance and they still bitch.

I was in the hospital over night in February and i have no insurance. Bill came to 11,000 dollars also. Financial aid lady got in touch with a private charity and they paid the whole bill. This DUmmie can go piss up a drain up.

I thought i would be paying a small monthly total to pay it back. Never thought the whole bill would be paid for.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 19, 2010, 09:44:46 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8367291

I thought the bill that Pelosi Reid and Obama passed was supposed to fix that. That's what I get for listening to them I guess.  :lmao:

Taxed now...receive later...2014 I think....and that's also your lifetime allotment.

"We have to pass it to find out what's in it"......or not in it..... :rotf: :rotf:

D&C: DUmb and crazy.

Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: crockspot on May 19, 2010, 09:46:32 AM
Yep, most hospitals have stashes of charity money that is used to pay the medical bills of those who cant. Hospitals also pump their bills way up before billing to insurance, because they aren't privy to the maximum amount that the insurance company will pay for something in particular, and they dont want to get shorted. So typically they bill five times what they may actually collect from the insurance company. DUmmy should wait a month or two before bitching.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: Freeper on May 19, 2010, 09:46:47 AM
Taxed now...receive later...2014 I think....and that's also your lifetime allotment.

"We have to pass it to find out what's in it"......or not in it..... :rotf: :rotf:

D&C: DUmb and crazy.



It stuns me that Pelosi could say something like that and still have a job. If a conservative said something like that they would be part of the 9.9%.  :banghead:
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: jukin on May 19, 2010, 09:58:49 AM
Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. I need someone else to pay!

FIXORD for truth.

They just don't get the fact that single payer will do nothing to bring the cost down. In fact, it will do nothing but increase costs.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: Freeper on May 19, 2010, 10:00:55 AM
Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. I need someone else to pay!

FIXORD for truth.

They just don't get the fact that single payer will do nothing to bring the cost down. In fact, it will do nothing but increase costs.


Yeah but the costs will come out of our pockets (the people that work) not theirs.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 19, 2010, 10:06:39 AM
Hey DUmmie, YOU are that single payer.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 19, 2010, 10:07:17 AM
The operation was greatly complicated by the fact they had to work around your torso, being as how your head was still firmly up your ass, DUmmie.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 19, 2010, 10:08:16 AM
Yeah but the costs will come out of our pockets (the people that work) not theirs.

The McDonalds dollar menu becomes the Six Dollar Menu etc
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: Freeper on May 19, 2010, 10:09:38 AM
The McDonalds dollar menu becomes the Six Dollar Menu etc

That will encourage people to eat healthy food.  :lmao:
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: thundley4 on May 19, 2010, 10:10:17 AM
Yep, most hospitals have stashes of charity money that is used to pay the medical bills of those who cant. Hospitals also pump their bills way up before billing to insurance, because they aren't privy to the maximum amount that the insurance company will pay for something in particular, and they dont want to get shorted. So typically they bill five times what they may actually collect from the insurance company. DUmmy should wait a month or two before bitching.

They also bill the insurance companies more, to also make up for the money they are losing to Medicare, and Medicaid.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: zeitgeist on May 19, 2010, 10:30:30 AM

Sometimes words fail me

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Here's my story: I just had a miscarriage a few weeks ago, and it was what the medical community calls a "missed abortion", meaning that my body just did NOT want to give up on the pregnancy, even though it was over. Medication didn't make my body expel it, so after a week I had an emergency D & C. A very simple, straightforward procedure, done at the hospital by my regular ob/gyn on a Sunday night (at her recommendation). It's not even really "surgery" since no actual cutting of my body ocurred. Although it was done under general anesthetic in the OR.


Missed abortion?  I have been told that sometimes the D&C was a convenient way to bill for an actual abortion an insurance wouldn't cover or which was at the time illegal.  Anyone know if that is right? 

Then too it always costs more to work on the plumbing when it is burried inside just ask any plumber.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: thundley4 on May 19, 2010, 10:34:25 AM
I wonder if the DUmmie posted the standard "I'm seeking sympathy" thread after her "miscarriage"?  If she had a miscarriage, surely she would have sought sympathy from the DUmmies.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: Doc Savage on May 19, 2010, 11:08:55 AM
Sometimes words fail me

Missed abortion?  I have been told that sometimes the D&C was a convenient way to bill for an actual abortion an insurance wouldn't cover or which was at the time illegal.  Anyone know if that is right? 

Then too it always costs more to work on the plumbing when it is burried inside just ask any plumber.

That is correct.  I do not believe that practice is done much anymore, because legal abortions are available.  However, if abortion becomes illegal, it will start again.  And don't forget that a catholic heath care institutions could revenue off of a procedure that if called by another name is not allowed to be performed.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: vesta111 on May 19, 2010, 11:22:11 AM
I wonder if the DUmmie posted the standard "I'm seeking sympathy" thread after her "miscarriage"?  If she had a miscarriage, surely she would have sought sympathy from the DUmmies.

Thunley, we had a woman at work that was hospitalized for 6 weeks in a physic ward.  Her insurance costs were so high the company had to find another provider.  The new company charged 1/4 more then the old one.

Now take my daughter, she gets some kind of assistance as she can not work.  Her week in CCU at one hospital in a coma, her transfer to a rehab wing of another hospital and one week of therapy and now she is back in CCU,  they were so anxious to get her up and around that now she may not make it.  The insurence Companys are sending people home from operations just hours after invasive surgery.  

The cost to keep her alive is staggering, she has again drained the blood bank.

Had her husband not have had insurence the hospital would have sent her home to die as has happend in the past with no insurence.  This time I do not think she is going to rally, her body has taken such a beating from past medical emergencys I am amazed she has made it this far.

Have you noticed that SIDS was almost unheard of when Hospitals kept mothers and their new born babys in the hospital for 5 days following delivery ?

We hear of Hospital contacted infections yet never think that the infection may not have occured had the patient stayed an extra day in the hospital.

I am rambeling here, upset and angry, the hospital she was in is top notch and has more then adaquit care for those needing therapy. She had 4 doctors that were treating her, she was getting better. Why not keep her where she was instead of getting 4 new doctors that had never seen or treated her before.

Sorry Thunderly, I am becoming unhinged at this point, my heart skips a beat every time the phone rings.




 
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: zeitgeist on May 19, 2010, 12:01:01 PM
Thunley, we had a woman at work that was hospitalized for 6 weeks in a physic ward.  Her insurance costs were so high the company had to find another provider.  The new company charged 1/4 more then the old one

Now take my daughter, she gets some kind of assistance as she can not work.  Her week in CCU at one hospital in a coma, her transfer to a rehab wing of another hospital and one week of therapy and now she is back in CCU,  they were so anxious to get her up and around that now she may not make it.  The insurence Companys are sending people home from operations just hours after invasive surgery.  

The cost to keep her alive is staggering, she has again drained the blood bank.

Had her husband not have had insurence the hospital would have sent her home to die as has happend in the past with no insurence.  This time I do not think she is going to rally, her body has taken such a beating from past medical emergencys I am amazed she has made it this far.

Have you noticed that SIDS was almost unheard of when Hospitals kept mothers and their new born babys in the hospital for 5 days following delivery ?

We hear of Hospital contacted infections yet never think that the infection may not have occured had the patient stayed an extra day in the hospital.

I am rambeling here, upset and angry, the hospital she was in is top notch and has more then adaquit care for those needing therapy. She had 4 doctors that were treating her, she was getting better. Why not keep her where she was instead of getting 4 new doctors that had never seen or treated her before.

Sorry Thunderly, I am becoming unhinged at this point, my heart skips a beat every time the phone rings.

 

Very sorry to hear your daughter is not doing well Vesta.  I will say a prayer on your behalf.

/pb
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: Ballygrl on May 19, 2010, 01:37:45 PM
Did DUmmie Coventina actually get a bill for that amount? or was that the amount the Hospital billed the insurance company? that's important because if Coventina was paying cash all she has to do is contact the Hospital, tell them she's paying cash for those services and she'd receive a discount, but if insurance is being used then the Hospital is basically over-billing the insurance company to make-up for unfair reimbursement from the Government in reference to patients who use Medicare and Medicaid, and also over-billing because the Government says everyone has to be treated, so in effect the Hospital treats people without insurance, including illegals, yet never get reimbursed by the Government for those services rendered, so those with insurance are stuck paying the bill.

So Coventina, how is Obamacare going to make your life better?
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: Ballygrl on May 19, 2010, 01:41:26 PM
Oh, just read that she has insurance, well she can blame low Government reimbursement and demanding everyone be treated for the Hospital being forced to over-bill those with insurance and in effect causing our rates to go up.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: Ballygrl on May 19, 2010, 01:47:59 PM
Just said a prayer now for your Daughter Vesta.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need
Post by: BEG on May 19, 2010, 02:20:57 PM
Thunley, we had a woman at work that was hospitalized for 6 weeks in a physic ward.  Her insurance costs were so high the company had to find another provider.  The new company charged 1/4 more then the old one.

Now take my daughter, she gets some kind of assistance as she can not work.  Her week in CCU at one hospital in a coma, her transfer to a rehab wing of another hospital and one week of therapy and now she is back in CCU,  they were so anxious to get her up and around that now she may not make it.  The insurence Companys are sending people home from operations just hours after invasive surgery.  

The cost to keep her alive is staggering, she has again drained the blood bank.

Had her husband not have had insurence the hospital would have sent her home to die as has happend in the past with no insurence.  This time I do not think she is going to rally, her body has taken such a beating from past medical emergencys I am amazed she has made it this far.

Have you noticed that SIDS was almost unheard of when Hospitals kept mothers and their new born babys in the hospital for 5 days following delivery ?

We hear of Hospital contacted infections yet never think that the infection may not have occured had the patient stayed an extra day in the hospital.

I am rambeling here, upset and angry, the hospital she was in is top notch and has more then adaquit care for those needing therapy. She had 4 doctors that were treating her, she was getting better. Why not keep her where she was instead of getting 4 new doctors that had never seen or treated her before.

Sorry Thunderly, I am becoming unhinged at this point, my heart skips a beat every time the phone rings.


Very sorry to hear about your daughter Vesta.  I pray that she will pull through, you must be worried sick.

I do take issue with some of what you wrote though but understand you are very upset right now (and rightly so).  I didn't have insurance when I had a stroke and they didn't send me home to die.  They treated me just like anyone else, including putting me in ICU for several days.  They performed every test imaginable to diagnose me.  When I left the hospital they said they would work with me on payment.  Then they sent me an "indigent form".  We filled it out and qualified.  We had to pay $1000 of the bill and the rest was written off.  I did have to pay all the doctors but we set up a payment plan and paid them all off in about three years.  This was back in 1995.

Also SIDS has always been around but only recently (relatively speaking) got a name.  People didn't discuss death like they do today.  If you had a baby back "in the day" and it died you just didn't talk about it.  Women used to have babies at home with a midwife not a doctor.  Before that women used to go into a field to give birth their baby.  There is no need to stay in a hospital for 5 days after giving birth unless you or the baby are having complications.  Besides, SIDS happens at around 2 to 4 months of age.  How does keeping them in the hospital for 5 days help?  When I had my 2nd child I didn't have maternity (I had insurance but it didn't cover pregnancy).  I paid monthly payments to my doctor and to the hospital to prepay my bill.  It was hard but we did it.  I had her at 7:58 pm and left the hospital before 9:00 am the next day.  I brought my daughter back to the doctor for all the necessary tests that happen after you have a baby.  I didn't need to stay in the hospital for 5 days. 

You are more likely to contract an infection the longer you stay in the hospital.  If you have half a brain you know when a wound doesn't look right, an extra day in the hospital isn't going to prevent infection.  If things don't look right or feel right after you leave the hospital you call the doctor.  The doctor explains all the signs and symptoms of infection when you leave the hospital. 

Situations like your daughter will only get worse if single payer heath care happens (and most likely will get worse under Obamacare).  The cost benefit wouldn't be there to treat her so you deduct what would happen to her in the same situation.  You have to be your own advocate, you know your body better than anyone.  A couple of years after I had my stroke I started having symptoms again.  I had to change rheumatologists because of insurance reasons.  My new rheumatologist that had my full file (two thick files) told me I just had anorexia (weight loss is a symptom).  I pleaded with him and told him that I knew my disease was back.  He blew me off.  I called my neurologist and he saw me within a day or so.  A few days later I was in the hospital having three stents placed.  If I had listened to that doctor I would be dead today.  I knew my own body, I was my own advocate...I got involved and demanded something be done.  You and your daughter's husband have to be your daughters advocate (which I'm sure you are).  She can't be her own advocate right now, her family as a whole needs to be the squeaky wheel and demand the best treatment for her. 

That being said Vesta, I know you are upset about your daughter.  I seriously feel for you.  I pray that everything turns out well for her and your family. 
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need
Post by: VivisMom on May 19, 2010, 02:23:29 PM
That is correct.  I do not believe that practice is done much anymore, because legal abortions are available.  However, if abortion becomes illegal, it will start again.  And don't forget that a catholic heath care institutions could revenue off of a procedure that if called by another name is not allowed to be performed.

D&Cs are used for non-abortion procedures as well. I'm trying to figure out where the Catholic hospitals come into this????
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: AprilRazz on May 19, 2010, 02:28:11 PM
Thunley, we had a woman at work that was hospitalized for 6 weeks in a physic ward.  Her insurance costs were so high the company had to find another provider.  The new company charged 1/4 more then the old one.

Now take my daughter, she gets some kind of assistance as she can not work.  Her week in CCU at one hospital in a coma, her transfer to a rehab wing of another hospital and one week of therapy and now she is back in CCU,  they were so anxious to get her up and around that now she may not make it.  The insurence Companys are sending people home from operations just hours after invasive surgery.  

The cost to keep her alive is staggering, she has again drained the blood bank.

Had her husband not have had insurence the hospital would have sent her home to die as has happend in the past with no insurence.  This time I do not think she is going to rally, her body has taken such a beating from past medical emergencys I am amazed she has made it this far.

Have you noticed that SIDS was almost unheard of when Hospitals kept mothers and their new born babys in the hospital for 5 days following delivery ?

We hear of Hospital contacted infections yet never think that the infection may not have occured had the patient stayed an extra day in the hospital.

I am rambeling here, upset and angry, the hospital she was in is top notch and has more then adaquit care for those needing therapy. She had 4 doctors that were treating her, she was getting better. Why not keep her where she was instead of getting 4 new doctors that had never seen or treated her before.

Sorry Thunderly, I am becoming unhinged at this point, my heart skips a beat every time the phone rings.




 

First of all my heart goes out to you with what you are dealing with. Your daughter and family will be in my prayers. Please keep us updated with how she is doing.

Now the reason that mothers and newborns are sent home early is more of a shift of thinking by the moms and the doctors. Every day a new born is kept in the hospital the risk of hospital acquired infection increases dramatically. Their immune systems are just getting going and the less time they spend at the hospital is better for them. That is why they tell you to limit the contact the baby has with others for the first few weeks. Hospitals are for sick people.
Also the recovery time is less when mom goes home soon after. Childbirth was treated like a disease by doctors for so long rather than the healthy and natural event that it is. That is why there is a boom now for midwives and home or birth center births. In a healthy pregnancy there is no real reason for much intervention beyond just watching, catching and cutting the cord.  Studies have even shown that mothers that were not given pitocin during labor tend to bond with their babies faster as the natural oxytocin is allowed to do it's thing.

SIDS has not increased in the last 20 years and it can happen within the first 12 months of life. Unfortunately they are still not sure what causes it.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need
Post by: BEG on May 19, 2010, 02:31:16 PM
Sometimes words fail me

Missed abortion?  I have been told that sometimes the D&C was a convenient way to bill for an actual abortion an insurance wouldn't cover or which was at the time illegal.  Anyone know if that is right? 

Then too it always costs more to work on the plumbing when it is burried inside just ask any plumber.

I had three miscarriages between my first two children.  All a year apart.  I had to have a D&C with the 2nd one.  I was passing blood clots the size of liver and had to have an emergency D&C.  It was very traumatic because a week before I saw the baby on U/S, you could see the heartbeat and the little arms and legs.  :(  
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: AprilRazz on May 19, 2010, 02:32:07 PM
D&Cs are used for non-abortion procedures as well. I'm trying to figure out where the Catholic hospitals come into this????
Mostly they are used to clean up so to speak after a miscarriage.
That way everything is gone and there is less chance of infection.
When I had mine I was treated at a Catholic hospital. There was no issue as it was a spontaneous (med speak for miscarriage) rather than planned abortion. My guess is that the primitive in question took the abortion pill and it did not do the job so she had to go in.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need
Post by: Duchess on May 19, 2010, 02:42:26 PM
Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. I need someone else to pay!

FIXORD for truth.

They just don't get the fact that single payer will do nothing to bring the cost down. In fact, it will do nothing but increase costs.


And that's the crux of the matter. As with everything else in life for a bloodsucking leech of a DUmmie.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: ConservativeandProud on May 19, 2010, 04:23:03 PM
I don't believe in any sort of reform that isn't immediate. I think that's just another way of saying "It Ain't Happenin"
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need
Post by: zeitgeist on May 19, 2010, 04:44:46 PM
I had three miscarriages between my first two children.  All a year apart.  I had to have a D&C with the 2nd one.  I was passing blood clots the size of liver and had to have an emergency D&C.  It was very traumatic because a week before I saw the baby on U/S, you could see the heartbeat and the little arms and legs.  :(  

Yup Beg, the lack of concern for the loss of the child but concern for the cost of the procedure is what really jumped out at me.   Cold is what I would call it.
 

Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: soleil on May 19, 2010, 04:55:29 PM
Sometimes words fail me

Missed abortion?  I have been told that sometimes the D&C was a convenient way to bill for an actual abortion an insurance wouldn't cover or which was at the time illegal.  Anyone know if that is right? 

Then too it always costs more to work on the plumbing when it is burried inside just ask any plumber.

It can be called a missed abortion, a spontaneous abortion (just another term for miscarriage often used on the medical charts).
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need
Post by: Duchess on May 19, 2010, 05:29:46 PM
Thunley, we had a woman at work that was hospitalized for 6 weeks in a physic ward.  Her insurance costs were so high the company had to find another provider.  The new company charged 1/4 more then the old one.

Now take my daughter, she gets some kind of assistance as she can not work.  Her week in CCU at one hospital in a coma, her transfer to a rehab wing of another hospital and one week of therapy and now she is back in CCU,  they were so anxious to get her up and around that now she may not make it.  The insurence Companys are sending people home from operations just hours after invasive surgery. 

The cost to keep her alive is staggering, she has again drained the blood bank.

Had her husband not have had insurence the hospital would have sent her home to die as has happend in the past with no insurence.  This time I do not think she is going to rally, her body has taken such a beating from past medical emergencys I am amazed she has made it this far.

Have you noticed that SIDS was almost unheard of when Hospitals kept mothers and their new born babys in the hospital for 5 days following delivery ?

We hear of Hospital contacted infections yet never think that the infection may not have occured had the patient stayed an extra day in the hospital.

I am rambeling here, upset and angry, the hospital she was in is top notch and has more then adaquit care for those needing therapy. She had 4 doctors that were treating her, she was getting better. Why not keep her where she was instead of getting 4 new doctors that had never seen or treated her before.

Sorry Thunderly, I am becoming unhinged at this point, my heart skips a beat every time the phone rings.




 


Prayers for your daughter and for you Vesta.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: MrsSmith on May 19, 2010, 05:39:04 PM
That is correct.  I do not believe that practice is done much anymore, because legal abortions are available.  However, if abortion becomes illegal, it will start again.  And don't forget that a catholic heath care institutions could revenue off of a procedure that if called by another name is not allowed to be performed.
A Catholic owned hospital would not perform a D&C on a woman that registers "pregnant" on a pregnancy test.  The hormone level would have to drop to zero, or very close...or the woman would have to be hemorrhaging to the point of bleeding to death...before the D&C could be done.  

This sounds like a retained fetus...the baby is dead, but the uterus does not expel it.   This can usually be taken care of with medications, like the abortion pill.  

The OP is very misleading in that this is very rarely "emergency" surgery.  The only reason it would be an emergency would be if she is bleeding heavily...otherwise, the fetus is sterile and should not cause any infection...my doctor actually told me that it would act like an IUD and prevent me from becoming pregnant if I wanted to just leave it alone.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: chitownchica on May 19, 2010, 08:28:11 PM
I had what was termed a D&C last year and I wasn't even pregnant. My sister-in-law has had them due to miscarriages.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: Boudicca on May 19, 2010, 09:43:04 PM
Vesta, my very best wishes that your dear daughter will recover.  Knowing one is powerless and the outcome is out of one's hands is very hard, every time it happens. :bawl:

As for D&C's, I had one half a decade ago, to control dysfunctional bleeding.  It worked for a few years, but eventually I had to have a different procedure.  My doctor said D&C's weren't performed very much any more?  Seems like quite a few women still have them though.

This woman from the DUmpster should just be glad she has insurance and quite likely a very small co-pay. :hammer:

Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: chitownchica on May 19, 2010, 10:56:03 PM
Vesta- prayers for your daughter.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need
Post by: BEG on May 20, 2010, 12:23:28 AM
Vesta, my very best wishes that your dear daughter will recover.  Knowing one is powerless and the outcome is out of one's hands is very hard, every time it happens. :bawl:

As for D&C's, I had one half a decade ago, to control dysfunctional bleeding.  It worked for a few years, but eventually I had to have a different procedure.  My doctor said D&C's weren't performed very much any more?  Seems like quite a few women still have them though.

This woman from the DUmpster should just be glad she has insurance and quite likely a very small co-pay. :hammer:



was it an edometrial ablation?  I had one about 7 years ago.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need
Post by: TheSarge on May 20, 2010, 12:55:44 AM
This DUmmie got a procedure that under Obamacare she would probably have to wait six months to get...that is if she was approved for it to begin with.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: PatriotGame on May 20, 2010, 01:38:30 AM
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Coventina  (1000+ posts)  Journal  Click to send private message to this author  Click to view this author's profile  Click to add this author to your buddy list  Click to add this author to your Ignore list      Wed May-19-10 10:28 AM
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Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need single payer!

I would imagine the cost of removing a liberal's square head from their round rectum would be rather expensive.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need
Post by: TheSarge on May 20, 2010, 03:41:50 AM
I would imagine the cost of removing a liberal's square head from their round rectum would be rather expensive.
:rotf: Hi 5
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: MrsSmith on May 20, 2010, 06:09:41 AM
I would imagine the cost of removing a liberal's square head from their round rectum would be rather expensive.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: BlueStateSaint on May 20, 2010, 08:23:36 AM
I would imagine the cost of removing a liberal's square head from their round rectum would be rather expensive.

It all depends--do you want to save the patient? :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on May 20, 2010, 08:24:36 AM
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Coventina  (1000+ posts)
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Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need the government or anyone but me to pay for it!!!!!

Fixed for truth.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: Celtic Rose on May 20, 2010, 09:07:47 AM
I recently had to go the ER, and there has been some confusion on the part of the billing department.  I recently got a bill for more than $1,200 that says "we understand that you do not have insurance..."  The bill says that if I am willing to pay upon receipt of the bill they will waive 75% of the charges.  I imagine that if that were too much, they would be willing to work with you for an installment payment plan. 
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on May 20, 2010, 09:11:50 AM
I recently had to go the ER, and there has been some confusion on the part of the billing department.  I recently got a bill for more than $1,200 that says "we understand that you do not have insurance..."  The bill says that if I am willing to pay upon receipt of the bill they will waive 75% of the charges.  I imagine that if that were too much, they would be willing to work with you for an installment payment plan. 

Hospitals & clinics are very cooperative when it comes to making payment arrangements.  Yet the DUmmies & libs only highlight the extreme cases where things get messed up.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: thundley4 on May 20, 2010, 09:15:49 AM
Hospitals & clinics are very cooperative when it comes to making payment arrangements.  Yet the DUmmies & libs only highlight the extreme cases where things get messed up.

Things usually get messed up when the DUmmies ignore their bills until it 's sent to collections.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on May 20, 2010, 09:20:41 AM
Things usually get messed up when the DUmmies ignore their bills until it 's sent to collections.

And when it gets to collections, they run to the DUmp and bitch about it and omit important facts.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need
Post by: Boudicca on May 20, 2010, 05:03:19 PM
was it an edometrial ablation?  I had one about 7 years ago.

You nailed it.  The gyn got p'o'd at me calling 2 1/2 month long bleeding episodes "my period"; she said it was dysfunctional uterine bleeding.  I needed a transfusion of 1g of iron to get my ferritin levels to low normal and felt like absolute shit for sitting in a cancer treatment center with those getting life-saving (I hope) cancer IV treatments.  Anyway, the gyn doc ended up performing what she termed a cyroablation 2 years ago and it worked like a charm.
I always tell women it's no use being bashful about this because had I let my bleeding and anemia proceed I'd likely be dead by now.  Apologies to the men in this thread, but they also probably need to be aware of how ingrained female modesty can be a killer, even in this day and age and this country.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: AllosaursRus on May 21, 2010, 02:38:49 PM
When I came down with pancreatitus I had to be admitted thru the E-room. It was $600 just to walk thru the door. Haven't received all my expenses yet but $11,000 is pretty much a drop in the bucket. My share looks like it will be somewhere around 4 grand.

"Toots" was having female problems when we were married just 3 years. Her Doc prescribed a DNC. Turns out she was pregnant and the DNC caused the miscarriage.

We should have known the guy was a quack! He was cooking sauerkraut in his lab! We were young and dumb! Should have sued the hell out of him and been set for life! Isn't that how they do it now?
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need
Post by: BEG on May 21, 2010, 03:06:37 PM
You nailed it.  The gyn got p'o'd at me calling 2 1/2 month long bleeding episodes "my period"; she said it was dysfunctional uterine bleeding.  I needed a transfusion of 1g of iron to get my ferritin levels to low normal and felt like absolute shit for sitting in a cancer treatment center with those getting life-saving (I hope) cancer IV treatments.  Anyway, the gyn doc ended up performing what she termed a cyroablation 2 years ago and it worked like a charm.
I always tell women it's no use being bashful about this because had I let my bleeding and anemia proceed I'd likely be dead by now.  Apologies to the men in this thread, but they also probably need to be aware of how ingrained female modesty can be a killer, even in this day and age and this country.

My apologize to the men in this forum....  :p

Wow 2 1/2 months?  That is crazy.  I had periods that lasted about three weeks and were so heavy it was insane.  My OB/GYN (he also delivered my last child) said that life is too short to be missing out on things because of a heavy period and he was right.  My procedure was most likely a little different than yours as there was an extra step that was quite painful.  Not too long after I had mine done they changed the way they did it.  I still have a period (which happens with some women), he told me he could do it again but it is SO much better than it was before that I'm not going to bother.  It lasts two days (three days TOPS) and is so light that I hardly even notice.  I am so glad I had it done.
Title: Re: Had emergency surgery recently. Just got the bill from the hospital. We need sin
Post by: AllosaursRus on May 22, 2010, 03:44:19 AM
My apologize to the men in this forum....  :p

Wow 2 1/2 months?  That is crazy.  I had periods that lasted about three weeks and were so heavy it was insane.  My OB/GYN (he also delivered my last child) said that life is too short to be missing out on things because of a heavy period and he was right.  My procedure was most likely a little different than yours as there was an extra step that was quite painful.  Not too long after I had mine done they changed the way they did it.  I still have a period (which happens with some women), he told me he could do it again but it is SO much better than it was before that I'm not going to bother.  It lasts two days (three days TOPS) and is so light that I hardly even notice.  I am so glad I had it done.

More info than I needed to know! Heh, heh!

Toots was having both, during her bout with the Quack. She would stop then start. Come to find out, if he had realized she was pregnant, we might have saved a child! It was a boy, damn it! I'd rather have not known!

She has always had probs that way. She finally had to have a remodel. Wish it had been different, but I'd rather have my life with her than a bunch a screamin' kids. (wink, wink)

Damn I luv that woman!

Don't tell her......... I have to keep her guessin' doncha know. It's what keeps it new!