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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-17-10 07:26 PM
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Why do national polls keep showing majority support for racist immigration laws
like the one in Arizona?
Is America over the edge on racism again?
It's clear that the country is becoming more and more regressive (or accepting of the regressive policies of the dominant supply-side conservatives that have dominated DC since Carter left), but this kind of thing would have been called unamerican for most of our history until now.
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First, it is not racist you idiot. Second, people are tired of what is essentially an invasion, and the crime that comes with it.
polichick (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-17-10 07:30 PM
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1. Because a lot of those polled are voting to protect the borders, period. nt
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-17-10 07:30 PM
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2. Again?
When exactly did the United States stop being over the edge on racism?
This is a racist nation. Always has been. We've improved from a hundred years ago but not so much as some people want us to believe.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-17-10 07:38 PM
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8. Agree.
Phoenix is the #1 city for kidnappings - people are worried.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-17-10 07:40 PM
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9. undocumented workers are not kidnapping people in phx
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-17-10 10:24 PM
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27. I didn't say they were - try
telling that to Phoenix residents.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-17-10 07:50 PM
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15. no , i'm pretty sure they are racist
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Mojambo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-17-10 07:34 PM
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5. America never stopped being racist. n/t
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theoldman (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-17-10 07:35 PM
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6. Because all of us are racists.
On the other hand if you only poll people with light colored skin and don't ask the opinion of dark skinned people you will get the answer that Republicans want.
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Oh just admit that everything you idiots disagree with is 'racist.'
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-17-10 07:48 PM
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12. They don't understand the law. They think it will stop
terrorists from coming across our borders, and yes, there is so much bigotry still in this country. I have talked to a lot of people who supported it. But then when I ask them why they would want to live in a country where they had to 'show their papers' they didn't think it applied to them.
I am shocked at the level of prejudice I've seen recently. I really wasn't aware of it being this bad not having come across it so much where I lived in NY.
Fear is the driving factor and the fear of people who are different was instilled expertly after 9/11. It unleashed the right to be prejudiced based on 'patritoism'. Once it became okay to call Muslims 'ragheads' and 'camel jockies' and our Military Generals were telling the troops to treat the Iraqis 'like dogs', what was probably already there under the surface, came out into the open.
Education works, but the media never explains the awful ramifications of this bill nor the fact that it will do nothing at all about 'protecting our borders'.
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Why don't you read up on how Mexico treats people who enter that country illegally before calling the Arizona law 'bigotry.'
JanMichael (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon May-17-10 07:49 PM
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13. Because there are a shitload of Ethnocentric Racists in the U.S...
...of A-holes.
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After the Dem primary debacle with us Hillary supporters deemed racist, I GLADLY embrace the title, you miserable assholes. F**k you and the horse you rode in on. :bird:
And I can't stand HRC now that she caved in to the Dark Side.
OMF, guess that's racist too. :whatever:
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After the Dem primary debacle with us Hillary supporters deemed racist, I GLADLY embrace the title, you miserable assholes. F**k you and the horse you rode in on. :bird:
And I can't stand HRC now that she caved in to the Dark Side.
OMF, guess that's racist too. :whatever:
I'm right there with you. The word "racist" is now devoid of its meaning and is only a club to beat suckers over the head with, if they're weak enough to cave in to the blackmail.
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These people are so intellectually dishonest, the US law is the same law that AZ just passed. They get their "honesty" from their God, Obama. He is dishonest about everything, they follow their leader well. They know good and well why AZ did what they did (as does Obama) and they know it isn't because of "brown people" but they will insist that is the reason until the day they die. Until they live in the state (preferably the cities of Tucson or Phoenix), live right next door to an apartment full of illegals, have to deal with the ramifications of running a state with limited resources yet have a butt load of "undocumented workers" that siphon off resources from the state or has one of their love ones killed by an illegal drug smuggler then I don't want to hear from them.
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How come no mention of blacks and legal hispanics who have no problem with this law at all?
And in reference to the idiotic statement:
29. frylock
the only residents in phoenix that need to be concerned about the excess of kidnappings..
are likely involved in human and or drug traffiking themselves.
The entire city of Phoenix is at risk when behavior like this is going on.
Oh UGH! here's another idiotic comment, yes everyone is basically stupid because in your opinion people don't understand the law, yes we do understand the law and it's the same as the federal law, and no I don't favor sending illegals back because I think it has anything to do with terrorism, it has to do with the fact that for every dollar an illegal contributes they use 3 dollars in services, it has to do with the fact that hospitals are being forced to close because illegals must be treated when they're sick, and it has to do with the fact that my Country is bending over backwards being politically correct and putting up signs in my post office in spanish without even putting up a sign in english so I can understand it.
sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Mon May-17-10 07:48 PM
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12. They don't understand the law. They think it will stop
terrorists from coming across our borders, and yes, there is so much bigotry still in this country. I have talked to a lot of people who supported it. But then when I ask them why they would want to live in a country where they had to 'show their papers' they didn't think it applied to them.
I am shocked at the level of prejudice I've seen recently. I really wasn't aware of it being this bad not having come across it so much where I lived in NY.
Fear is the driving factor and the fear of people who are different was instilled expertly after 9/11. It unleashed the right to be prejudiced based on 'patritoism'. Once it became okay to call Muslims 'ragheads' and 'camel jockies' and our Military Generals were telling the troops to treat the Iraqis 'like dogs', what was probably already there under the surface, came out into the open.
Education works, but the media never explains the awful ramifications of this bill nor the fact that it will do nothing at all about 'protecting our borders'.
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Uckfa ouya branders seine.
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These people are so intellectually dishonest, the US law is the same law that AZ just passed. They get their "honesty" from their God, Obama. He is dishonest about everything, they follow their leader well. They know good and well why AZ did what they did (as does Obama) and they know it isn't because of "brown people" but they will insist that is the reason until the day they die. Until they live in the state (preferably the cities of Tucson or Phoenix), live right next door to an apartment full of illegals, have to deal with the ramifications of running a state with limited resources yet have a butt load of "undocumented workers" that siphon off resources from the state or has one of their love ones killed by an illegal drug smuggler then I don't want to hear from them.
I wouldn't be so quick to assume the DUmmies or the POTUS for that matter actually know what the law says...given the fact that the AG hasn't even read the law and has made comments on it based solely on what he's read in the MSM.
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I wouldn't be so quick to assume the DUmmies or the POTUS for that matter actually know what the law says...given the fact that the AG hasn't even read the law and has made comments on it based solely on what he's read in the MSM.
The AG hasn't read the law because it is too simple for him to do it....
It's only 10 pages or so, vs. the 2000+ pages that passed as "health care reform"....
Come to think of it, the AG is too simple to understand it to begin with....
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Was that cringe-worthy, or what? (AG cluelessness). Makes you feel like you're back in school, and the dumb kid gets called on, and he didn't do his homework. Awkward!
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I wouldn't be so quick to assume the DUmmies or the POTUS for that matter actually know what the law says...given the fact that the AG hasn't even read the law and has made comments on it based solely on what he's read in the MSM.
Fox showed a clip this morning of McCain questioning Napolitano, at a congressional hearing. She hasn't read it either....."but she is aware of what it says".... ::)
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29. frylock
the only residents in phoenix that need to be concerned about the excess of kidnappings..
are likely involved in human and or drug traffiking themselves.
:bs: It's not criminals that are buying kidnapping insurance in TX, AZ. Most kidnapping aren't reported- and here's why:
The videotapes and photos arrived every few days. They showed a young woman, bound and scared, crying out as her kidnappers slapped her face and beat her. The pictures, the sounds of pain, tore at her uncle Gerardo like a dull razor.
"When do you want us to stop?" the kidnappers asked on the tapes, and in phone calls that always came between 2 and 4 in the morning. They threatened that the next time they would send her tongue, her eye, her ears, her fingers. They wanted $5 million in ransom, and they offered specific suggestions about which of Gerardo's properties and businesses he could sell to raise it.
He didn't call the police. The kidnappers said they would kill his niece, his mother, his children if he did. From the extent of the kidnappers' information about him, he suspected that the police were involved anyway, as they are in so many cases here. Police cars parked outside his office and his mother's house seemed like a warning he didn't dare ignore.
Gerardo said he considers himself brave, a steel-spined businessman, tough as his Lebanese grandparents who moved to Mexico at the turn of the last century. But the cries of his 19-year-old niece, kidnapped at the point of a machine gun as she walked to school, were more than he could take. And, he said, the words -- "When do you want us to stop?" -- haunted him.
"They get one of your kids and they finish you," he said.
He got his niece back in March, but the ordeal didn't end. He said the kidnappers kept calling him, threatening to kill his children if he made trouble for them, if he called the police. Once, he said, they called to let him know they were sitting outside his mother's house. They described the place to him, told him what his mother was doing just then. And they said they were going to kill her.
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I don't think these people an end to (their definition of) racism because without controversy and victims the dems would cease to exist. If they truly cared they'd quit harping on a law they evidently can't comprehend and discuss REAL disparity. But no, it's easier to stir up controversy and scream racism than to deal honestly with the hard work our country should do. To use minorities in this way is more racist than a law that says if someone is caught breaking the law a police officer can also ask for their papers.
Cindie
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Apparently, these retards have read little or nothing of the Arizona law, comprehend absolutely ZERO about the goals of La Raza or MeCha, and in general can't do anything but point an accusatory finger at good citizens and good law.
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branders seine
Why do national polls keep showing majority support for racist immigration laws?
They don't. They show citizens are fed up with people illegally crossing the border (itself a crime) and committing crimes against the people. Only through your warped prism is it in anyway "racist," but you're not intelligent enough to grasp it, so that's all the explanation you get.
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Mon May-17-10 07:48 PM
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12. They don't understand the law. They think it will stop
terrorists from coming across our borders, and yes, there is so much bigotry still in this country. I have talked to a lot of people who supported it. But then when I ask them why they would want to live in a country where they had to 'show their papers' they didn't think it applied to them...
"Yes, Officer, here is my license, and here are my registration and proof of insurance..."
"I'd like to cash this check...yes, here is my license..."
"I'd like to change _______ on my account. The last 4 of my Social? Sure, it's _ _ _ _..."
Nope, "papers" don't apply to us. ::) ::) ::)
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the arizona sb1070 law simply mirrors existing federal law and adds two points...
1) it makes the federal law a state law as well.
2) it explicitly authorizes state enforcement of the law.
which, of course, is nothing new or unprecedented...
Although the Illegal Immigration and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRAIRA) of 1996 provied new authority for empowering local law enforcement agencies to enforce immigration law provisions against aliens illegally in the country, local police were never powerless to act on immigration law violations before adoption of that legislation. Local police departments have always had the ability to collaborate with the INS in enforcement operations. An example was local cooperation with the INS and the FBI in locating and interviewing foreign students from Middle Eastern countries following the September 11 terrorist attacks.
In addition, Section 274(c) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), as amended in 1986, authorizes “...all other officers whose duty it is to enforce criminal laws,†to arrest persons for smuggling, harboring or transporting illegal aliens. Furthermore, federal courts had repeatedly affirmed since 1984 that local police may inquire into immigration violations in the course of a routine stop (see e.g., U.S. v. Salinas-Calderon).
http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=16677&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1007 (http://www.fairus.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&id=16677&security=1601&news_iv_ctrl=1007)
nothing racist about any of it. in fact, sb1070 was amended to specifically prohibit "profiling."
just more dummy rants from idiots that have not read the law or understand existing federal authorizations about the matter...
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"Yes, Officer, here is my license, and here are my registration and proof of insurance..."
"I'd like to cash this check...yes, here is my license..."
"I'd like to change _______ on my account. The last 4 of my Social? Sure, it's _ _ _ _..."
Nope, "papers" don't apply to us. ::) ::) ::)
And let's not forget about the "papers" we're about to have to carry proving we have health insurance.
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I keep finding it funny that no one in the Obama admin has gone through the grueling task of reading all 10 pages of this law. Yet they go around giving expert opinions on it. This is twice that they have lied their asses off about a bill. The first was health care. Obama cried and whined that we were misquoting and lying about the HC bill now he is going around blatantly lying about this bill. Bill Clinton is honest compared to this clown we have now.
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"Yes, Officer, here is my license, and here are my registration and proof of insurance..."
"I'd like to cash this check...yes, here is my license..."
"I'd like to change _______ on my account. The last 4 of my Social? Sure, it's _ _ _ _..."
Nope, "papers" don't apply to us. ::) ::) ::)
And let's not forget about the "papers" we're about to have to carry proving we have health insurance.
Hand over debit/credit card to pay for something. Clerk asks to see pictured driver's license.
Or buy alcohol or cigarettes....hand over pictured ID.
But hey....those are just details that apply to, uh....everybody!...regardless of skin color, race, religion or gender.
I'm gonna bitch next time I buy alcohol and get asked for ID.....insulting me, making me prove my age! How dare a clerk do that!!!!
Fact that it's the LAW....is...is.....is .....just not relevant! :censored:
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Hand over debit/credit card to pay for something. Clerk asks to see pictured driver's license.
Or buy alcohol or cigarettes....hand over pictured ID.
But hey....those are just details that apply to, uh....everybody!...regardless of skin color, race, religion or gender.
I'm gonna bitch next time I buy alcohol and get asked for ID.....insulting me, making me prove my age! How dare a clerk do that!!!!
Fact that it's the LAW....is...is.....is .....just not relevant! :censored:
Obama may personally greet each graduate: Kalamazoo Central seniors to fill out paperwork for Secret Service
KALAMAZOO — The White House appears to be laying the groundwork for President Barack Obama to shake the hand of each senior at Kalamazoo Central High School’s commencement ceremony next month.
Seniors are being asked to provide their birthdates, Social Security numbers and citizen status to the Secret Service so background checks could be performed. Such a check is required for anyone who gets within an arm’s length of the president, students were told at their senior breakfast Friday. Your Papers Please. (http://www.mlive.com/news/kalamazoo/index.ssf/2010/05/obama_may_personally_greet_eac.html)
Evidently Lord Zero prefers not to soil his hands with illegal immigrants.
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Evidently Lord Zero prefers not to soil his hands with illegal immigrants.
To be fair I believe this is SOP for the SS. However it is hypocritical that they can ask for papers yet law enforcement is given hell for the same thing.
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To be fair I believe this is SOP for the SS. However it is hypocritical that they can ask for papers yet law enforcement is given hell for the same thing.
but, but,......the president is so much more important than us mere mortals.....
:fuelfire:
The President of the US is more important....but I'm pretty damn important to my family, too. Just as every other person is to their family....
All the Arizonians are asking for is to be protected from those who would harm them....for no other reason than that they(bad people) can.
No different than what the SS is trying to do for the president in checking out the students....
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but, but,......the president is so much more important than us mere mortals.....
:fuelfire:
The President of the US is more important....but I'm pretty damn important to my family, too. Just as every other person is to their family....
All the Arizonians are asking for is to be protected from those who would harm them....for no other reason than that they(bad people) can.
No different than what the SS is trying to do for the president in checking out the students....
I bet you anything if they had the problems that the people of AZ are having they would support this. Then again they are stoopid enough to support liberal ideas over reality.
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I bet you anything if they had the problems that the people of AZ are having they would support this. Then again they are stoopid enough to support liberal ideas over reality.
We have quite a large Latino population in E TN. My favorite priest at our Church is from Mexico, there is such a large number of Mexican parishoners, that one Mass on Sunday, is done totally in Spanish.
I support Arizona. I would support it here, if the state decided to do it.
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Hand over debit/credit card to pay for something. Clerk asks to see pictured driver's license.
Or buy alcohol or cigarettes....hand over pictured ID.
But hey....those are just details that apply to, uh....everybody!...regardless of skin color, race, religion or gender.
I'm gonna bitch next time I buy alcohol and get asked for ID.....insulting me, making me prove my age! How dare a clerk do that!!!!
Fact that it's the LAW....is...is.....is .....just not relevant! :censored:
Just for curiousity's sake, how many "papers" does everyone carry at all times? Not even counting the registration and proof of insurance in your car...what do you carry in your pocket or purse?
I carry my license, my debit card, hubby's debit card, 2 credit cards, my SS card, 2 health insurance cards, 2 library cards, my Red Cross blood donor card, and a couple cards with info like addresses, bank account numbers, and family SS numbers...
But we can't really expect immigrants to have an ID card on them...right? ::)
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Just for curiousity's sake, how many "papers" does everyone carry at all times? Not even counting the registration and proof of insurance in your car...what do you carry in your pocket or purse?
I carry my license, my debit card, hubby's debit card, 2 credit cards, my SS card, 2 health insurance cards, 2 library cards, my Red Cross blood donor card, and a couple cards with info like addresses, bank account numbers, and family SS numbers...
But we can't really expect immigrants to have an ID card on them...right? ::)
I sometimes go to work with no billfold, just a few dollars in my pocket. That's mostly when I walk the two blocks to work. I was stopped halfway there one morning around 4a.m. The cop gave me a ride to a work so he could watch unlock the door as proof of who I said I was.
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I sometimes go to work with no billfold, just a few dollars in my pocket. That's mostly when I walk the two blocks to work. I was stopped halfway there one morning around 4a.m. The cop gave me a ride to a work so he could watch unlock the door as proof of who I said I was.
If you were brown he would have thrown you in jail no doubt. :-)
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If you were brown he would have thrown you in jail no doubt. :-)
It was winter time, so I didn't have my tan.
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Just for curiousity's sake, how many "papers" does everyone carry at all times? Not even counting the registration and proof of insurance in your car...what do you carry in your pocket or purse?
I carry my license, my debit card, hubby's debit card, 2 credit cards, my SS card, 2 health insurance cards, 2 library cards, my Red Cross blood donor card, and a couple cards with info like addresses, bank account numbers, and family SS numbers...
But we can't really expect immigrants to have an ID card on them...right? ::)
Driver's License
2 debit cards
UNT Student ID
TWU Student ID
Concealed Carry License
Library Card
Health Insurance Card
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Will the DUmmies faint if they read this? Here's a comparison of the California Law and the Arizona Law, they're kind of similar, oh my!
http://www.washingtontimes.com/weblogs/watercooler/2010/may/15/audio-interview-la-city-councilman-attacks-ariz-la/
Below is a copy of section 834b of the California Penal Code that deals with immigration law enforcement at the local level.
(a) Every law enforcement agency in California shall fully cooperate with the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service regarding any person who is arrested if he or she is suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws. (b) With respect to any such person who is arrested, and suspected of being present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws, every law enforcement agency shall do the following: (1) Attempt to verify the legal status of such person as a citizen of the United States, an alien lawfully admitted as a permanent resident, an alien lawfully admitted for a temporary period of time or as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of immigration laws. The verification process may include, but shall not be limited to, questioning the person regarding his or her date and place of birth, and entry into the United States, and demanding documentation to indicate his or her legal status. (2) Notify the person of his or her apparent status as an alien who is present in the United States in violation of federal immigration laws and inform him or her that, apart from any criminal justice proceedings, he or she must either obtain legal status or leave the United States. (3) Notify the Attorney General of California and the United States Immigration and Naturalization Service of the apparent illegal status and provide any additional information that may be requested by any other public entity. (c) Any legislative, administrative, or other action by a city, county, or other legally authorized local governmental entity with jurisdictional boundaries, or by a law enforcement agency, to prevent or limit the cooperation required by subdivision (a) is expressly prohibited.
Here is Arizona's SB 1070
ARTICLE 8. ENFORCEMENT OF IMMIGRATION LAWS
14 11-1051. Cooperation and assistance in enforcement of
15 immigration laws; indemnification
16 A. NO OFFICIAL OR AGENCY OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR
17 OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS STATE MAY ADOPT A POLICY THAT LIMITS OR
18 RESTRICTS THE ENFORCEMENT OF FEDERAL IMMIGRATION LAWS TO LESS THAN THE FULL
19 EXTENT PERMITTED BY FEDERAL LAW.
20 B. FOR ANY LAWFUL CONTACT MADE BY A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICIAL OR AGENCY
21 OF THIS STATE OR A COUNTY, CITY, TOWN OR OTHER POLITICAL SUBDIVISION OF THIS
22 STATE WHERE REASONABLE SUSPICION EXISTS THAT THE PERSON IS AN ALIEN WHO IS
23 UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES, A REASONABLE ATTEMPT SHALL BE MADE,
24 WHEN PRACTICABLE, TO DETERMINE THE IMMIGRATION STATUS OF THE PERSON. THE
25 PERSON'S IMMIGRATION STATUS SHALL BE VERIFIED WITH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
26 PURSUANT TO 8 UNITED STATES CODE SECTION 1373(c).
27 C. IF AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES IS
28 CONVICTED OF A VIOLATION OF STATE OR LOCAL LAW, ON DISCHARGE FROM
29 IMPRISONMENT OR ASSESSMENT OF ANY FINE THAT IS IMPOSED, THE ALIEN SHALL BE
30 TRANSFERRED IMMEDIATELY TO THE CUSTODY OF THE UNITED STATES IMMIGRATION AND
31 CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT OR THE UNITED STATES CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION.
32 D. NOTWITHSTANDING ANY OTHER LAW, A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY MAY
33 SECURELY TRANSPORT AN ALIEN WHO IS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT IN THE UNITED STATES
34 AND WHO IS IN THE AGENCY'S CUSTODY TO A FEDERAL FACILITY IN THIS STATE OR TO
35 ANY OTHER POINT OF TRANSFER INTO FEDERAL CUSTODY THAT IS OUTSIDE THE
36 JURISDICTION OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.
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I keep finding it funny that no one in the Obama admin has gone through the grueling task of reading all 10 pages of this law. Yet they go around giving expert opinions on it. This is twice that they have lied their asses off about a bill. The first was health care. Obama cried and whined that we were misquoting and lying about the HC bill now he is going around blatantly lying about this bill. Bill Clinton is honest compared to this clown we have now.
What else haven't they read? What other legislation and proposals are they making statements about based not on fact...but on what's being written about it in the NYT or reported on MSNBC?