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Title: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: thundley4 on May 11, 2010, 10:45:14 AM
(http://www.justice.gov/enrd/Anniversary/100th-Files/APPELLATE/cross_on_mojave_-_NPS.jpg)


The 76-year-old Mojave Cross war memorial in San Bernardino County's High Desert has been torn down by vandals, just days after the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the religious symbol could remain -- at least temporarily -- on public land.

Sometime Sunday night, the cross was taken down from its perch atop Sunrise Rock in the Mojave National Preserve, according to Liberty Institute, a group that represented veterans groups and caretakers of the cross in the recent Supreme Court Case.

"This is an outrage, akin to desecrating people's graves," said institute president Kelly Shackelford. "It's a disgraceful attack on the selfless sacrifice of our veterans. We will not rest until this memorial is re-installed."

The cross was erected in the 1934 by a veterans group as a tribute to their fallen brethren in World War I. It has been the subject of a decade long court battle between those who want it to remain and those who believe it violates the separation of church and state.

In a split decision late last month, the Supreme Court overturned a lower court ruling that the cross must be removed. The High Court remanded the case back to federal district court in Southern California. The ruling was a major victory for proponents of the cross, but the American Civil Liberties Union vowed to renew its opposition to the cross. Link (http://www.pe.com/localnews/stories/PE_News_Local_D_webmojave.15f87a6.html)
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 11, 2010, 10:46:40 AM
This country could be heading to civil war plus wars with Muslims and colonists from the south.
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 11, 2010, 10:50:36 AM
Will post at FR
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: NHSparky on May 11, 2010, 11:13:59 AM
Find who did it.  Nail them to it.  Problem solved.
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 11, 2010, 11:16:49 AM
This is America...put up one bigger and better...shine a spotlight on it so it can be seen at night.
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 11, 2010, 11:19:04 AM
Uh oh.

I pasted this article at FR and the FReepers are mad. A moderator placed it in 'Breaking News' and its nearing 50 posts now, probably going to be a lot more than that.
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: jinxmchue on May 11, 2010, 11:28:31 AM
Not just torn down.  STOLEN!

http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=69916

Notice that supporters of the cross left the wooden box covering it alone for 10 years while the fate of the cross was decided in the courts. It only took opponents of the cross 2 weeks to decide that their will supplanted the will of the highest court in the land.
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: thundley4 on May 11, 2010, 12:03:16 PM
I'm willing to bet that whoever did this has cut it up and scattered the pieces of it.
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: Karin on May 11, 2010, 12:54:14 PM
Sickening!  I hope so badly that the thieves are caught. 

Here (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4376794) is the DUmp's thread on it.  Nothing surprising. 
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: Chris_ on May 11, 2010, 01:32:20 PM
Such a fine example of tolerance
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: cavegal on May 11, 2010, 02:16:11 PM
It is eye opening how the left deals with issues they have not won!
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: Hawkgirl on May 11, 2010, 04:24:34 PM
Some Veteran groups are offering $25,000 reward for any information.   The creeps will get caught.
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: JohnnyReb on May 11, 2010, 04:32:09 PM
This is another one of those, "If only I was filthy rich" things.

I'd build one a thousand feet high and light it up with umpteen thousand lights, hire a staff of lawyers and fight the liberals in court until doomsday.....I guess you can say, "It's a good thing old JohnnyReb ain't rich because he'd stir up some shit."
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: Airwolf on May 11, 2010, 06:17:57 PM
Build a new one bigger ,stronger and light it so much that you can see it from space.
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 11, 2010, 06:18:26 PM
This country could be heading to civil war plus wars with Muslims and colonists from the south.

I think a civil war is inevitable. It is a matter of when.
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: RightCoast on May 11, 2010, 06:23:09 PM
I think a civil war is inevitable. It is a matter of when.

yup
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: Thor on May 12, 2010, 12:50:07 AM
I say, build a new one and go and stealthily install it during the night, same as how they stole this one.
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: Chris_ on May 12, 2010, 12:55:51 AM
I think a civil war is inevitable. It is a matter of when.

It only takes the right spark to set it off.
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: LC EFA on May 12, 2010, 01:07:20 AM
Crap like this is what convinces me that a proportion of atheists out there are every bit as nasty as fundamentalist muslims and every bit as determined to silence any point of view that differs from their own.



Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: littlelamb on May 12, 2010, 06:11:03 AM
I hope the assholes that did it are caught soon
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: Thor on May 12, 2010, 12:40:07 PM
The VFW has a $25K reward for these asswipes.
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: jinxmchue on May 12, 2010, 01:04:02 PM
The VFW has a $25K reward for these asswipes.

I thought it was the feds.
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: Thor on May 12, 2010, 01:05:30 PM
It may be both. I dunno. I just know that I saw on the news this morning that at least the VFW had posted a reward.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/0511/Mojave-cross-theft-shows-planning-veterans-groups-vow-to-rebuild
Title: Re: Mojave Cross torn down by vandals
Post by: CrimsonNan on May 15, 2010, 11:19:31 AM
I think a civil war is inevitable. It is a matter of when.

I agree! 

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