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Title: Elena Kagan isn't real big on diversity. She mostly hires Whites
Post by: tuolumnejim on May 11, 2010, 01:43:55 AM
Some good DUmmy on DUmmy internet violence in this thread :-)

Link (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8301997)

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Better Believe It  (1000+ posts)        Sun May-09-10 08:49 PM
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Elena Kagan isn't real big on diversity. 28 of 29 faculty members she hired at Harvard were white! 
 -I just read these articles for the first time today. This is new information for me and one more reason why President Obama should not nominate her to the Supreme Court. I find it hard to believe that anyone who is not a bigot, or who is an advocate of diversity, would only hire one non-white person to the Harvard Law School faculty. This is the 21st century, not 1960! I think any DU'er in her position would have found many qualified people of color and women to hire for that faculty. BBI-

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Some Questions About Elena Kagan
By Professor Guy-Uriel Charles of Duke Law School
April, 22, 2010

Granting that we know very little about Kagan, what do we make of the facts that we do know? Here are some data that gives me pause about Kagan. When Elena Kagan was Dean of the Harvard Law School, she hired 29 tenured or tenure-track faculty members. But she did not hire a single black, Latino, or American Indian faculty member. Not one, not even a token. Of the 29 people she hired, all of them with one exception were white. Under Kagan's watch Harvard hired 28 white faculty members and one Asian American.

One of Kagan's purported qualifications for the Supreme Court is that she is a consensus builder. The chief evidence for that contention is that she broke the hiring logjam at Harvard and made it possible for Harvard to hire conservatives. It might sound absurd to some, but I will accept the point that one of Kagan's chief selling points is that she assured that Harvard did not discriminate ideologically. I am personally gratified that Harvard Law School is not closed to conservative faculty members. I support ideological diversity and would not want to see qualified individuals discriminated against on the basis of ideology.

But what about people of color? How could she have brokered a deal that permitted the hiring of conservatives but resulted in the hiring of only white faculty? Moreover, of the 29 new hires, only six were women. So, she hired 23 white men, 5 white women, and one Asian American woman. Please do not tell me that there were not enough qualified women and people of color. That's a racist and sexist statement. It cannot be the case that there was not a single qualified black, Latino or Native-American legal academic that would qualify for tenure at Harvard Law School during Elena Kagan's tenure. To believe otherwise is to harbor troubling racist views.

Third, what is the justification for putting someone on the Supreme Court without a demonstrated commitment to opening barriers for women and people of color? Kagan's performance as Dean at Harvard raises doubts about her commitment to equality for traditionally disadvantaged groups. I am eager to be convinced that she is committed to full equality for marginalized groups, but I'd like to see the evidence. Moreover, what other questions would we have about Kagan if we knew more about her and her views?
 
Title: Re: Elena Kagan isn't real big on diversity. She mostly hires Whites
Post by: BlueStateSaint on May 11, 2010, 07:08:15 AM
DUmb****cide is a good thing! :evillaugh:
Title: Re: Elena Kagan isn't real big on diversity. She mostly hires Whites
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 11, 2010, 07:39:13 AM
I love when they eat their own.

This Kagan dude, I mean lady, doesn't like free speech either.
Title: Re: Elena Kagan isn't real big on diversity. She mostly hires Whites
Post by: thundley4 on May 11, 2010, 08:25:48 AM
I love when they eat their own.

This Kagan dude, I mean lady, doesn't like free speech either.

The DUmp should love her. She argued for the government in the Citizens United case.  She backs up their idea of limiting free speech.
Title: Re: Elena Kagan isn't real big on diversity. She mostly hires Whites
Post by: BlueStateSaint on May 11, 2010, 08:35:27 AM
I love when they eat their own.

This Kagan dude, I mean lady, doesn't like free speech either.

Use the adjective "individual," FGL.  That way, you don't call it a "person."
Title: Re: Elena Kagan isn't real big on diversity. She mostly hires Whites
Post by: Karin on May 11, 2010, 08:48:39 AM
There are several threads over there not too friendly with the individual.  I didn't delve into them in detail, but they had subjects such as Kagan supporting a ban on late-term abortions, and something about detaining enemy combatants being A-OK.  They're in a tizz over there. 
Title: Re: Elena Kagan isn't real big on diversity. She mostly hires Whites
Post by: lastparker on May 11, 2010, 11:27:45 AM
They're so damn ungrateful.  They should be busy planning their gay weddings but instead, they're still all whiney.
Title: Re: Elena Kagan isn't real big on diversity. She mostly hires Whites
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 11, 2010, 12:53:31 PM
I love Lib-on-Lib violence!  Remember Libs, an 'Own goal' is the easiest goal, and we know you always want everything as easy for yourself as possible!

 :rotf: