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Title: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Thor on May 01, 2010, 08:08:36 PM
US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig

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A grim report circulating in the Kremlin today written by Russia’s Northern Fleet is reporting that the United States has ordered a complete media blackout over North Korea’s torpedoing of the giant Deepwater Horizon oil platform owned by the World’s largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean that was built and financed by South Korea’s Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd., that has caused great loss of life, untold billions in economic damage to the South Korean economy, and an environmental catastrophe to the United States.

Most important to understand about this latest attack by North Korea against its South Korean enemy is that under the existing “laws of war” it was a permissible action as they remain in a state of war against each other due to South Korea’s refusal to sign the 1953 Armistice ending the Korean War.

To the attack itself, these reports continue, the North Korean “cargo vessel” Dai Hong Dan believed to be staffed by 17th Sniper Corps “suicide” troops left Cuba’s Empresa Terminales Mambisas de La Habana (Port of Havana) on April 18th whereupon it “severely deviated” from its intended course for Venezuela’s Puerto Cabello bringing it to within 209 kilometers (130 miles) of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform which was located 80 kilometers (50 miles) off the coast of the US State of Louisiana where it launched an SSC Sang-o Class Mini Submarine (Yugo class) estimated to have an operational range of 321 kilometers (200 miles).

On the night of April 20th the North Korean Mini Submarine manned by these “suicidal” 17th Sniper Corps soldiers attacked the Deepwater Horizon with what are believed to be 2 incendiary torpedoes causing a massive explosion and resulting in 11 workers on this giant oil rig being killed outright.  Barely 48 hours later, on April 22nd , this North Korean Mini Submarine committed its final atrocity by exploding itself directly beneath the Deepwater Horizon causing this $1 Billion oil rig to sink beneath the seas and marking 2010’s celebration of Earth Day with one of the largest environmental catastrophes our World has ever seen.

To the reason for North Korea attacking the Deepwater Horizon, these reports say, was to present US President Obama with an “impossible dilemma” prior to the opening of the United Nations Review Conference of the Parties to the Treat on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) set to begin May 3rd in New York.

This “impossible dilemma” facing Obama is indeed real as the decision he is faced with is either to allow the continuation of this massive oil leak catastrophe to continue for months, or immediately stop it by the only known and proven means possible, the detonation of a thermonuclear device.

Russian Navy atomic experts in these reports state that should Obama choose the “nuclear option” the most viable weapon at his disposal is the United States B83 (Mk-83) strategic thermonuclear bomb having a variable yield (Low Kiloton Range to 1,200 Kilotons) which with its 12 foot length and 18 inch diameter, and weighing just over 2,400 pounds, is readily able to be deployed and detonated by a remote controlled mini-sub.

Should Obama choose the “nuclear option” it appears that he would be supported by the International Court of Justice who on July 8, 1996 issued an advisory opinion on the use of nuclear weapons stating that they could not conclude definitively on these weapons use in “extreme circumstances” or “self defense”.

On the other hand, if Obama chooses the “nuclear option” it would leave the UN’s nuclear conference in shambles with every Nation in the World having oil rigs off their coasts demanding an equal right to atomic weapons to protect their environment from catastrophes too, including Iran.

To whatever decision Obama makes it remains a fact that with each passing hour this environmental catastrophe grows worse. And even though Obama has ordered military SWAT teams to protect other oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico from any further attack, and further ordered that all drilling in the Gulf of Mexico be immediately stopped, this massive oil spill has already reached the shores of America and with high waves and more bad weather forecast the likelihood of it being stopped from destroying thousands of miles of US coastland and wildlife appears unstoppable.

And not just to the environmental catastrophe that is unfolding the only devastation to be wrecked upon the United States and South Korea by this North Korean attack as the economic liabilities associated with this disaster are estimated by these Russian reports to be between $500 Billion to $1.5 Trillion, and which only a declaration of this disaster being an “act of war” would free some the World’s largest corporations from bankruptcy.

Important to note too in all of these events was that this was the second attack by North Korea on its South Korean enemy, and US ally, in a month as we had reported on in our March 28th report titled “Obama Orders ‘Immediate Stand-down’ After Deadly North Korean Attack” and which to date neither the Americans or South Korea have retaliated for and giving one senior North Korean party leader the courage to openly state that the North Korean military took “gratifying revenge” on South Korea.

And for those believing that things couldn’t get worse, they couldn’t be more mistaken as new reports coming from Japanese military sources are stating that North Korea is preparing for new launches of its 1,300 kilometer (807 miles) intermediate range ballistic “Rodong” missile which Russian Space Forces experts state is able to “deploy and detonate” an atomic electromagnetic pulse (EMP) device, and which if detonated high in the atmosphere could effectively destroy the American economy for years, if not decades, to come.

http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/us-orders-blackout-over-north-korean-torpedoing-of-gulf-of-mexico-oil-rig/

I don't know of this online newspaper or if it's anything like the National Enquirer, BUT........ if there's any truth to the story, all hell is going to break loose.

edited to add link
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Chris on May 01, 2010, 08:09:20 PM
I hope it's not another Pravda story.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: thundley4 on May 01, 2010, 08:30:32 PM
I think The Onion or The Bunny News Network is more reliable than that sight.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Chris_ on May 01, 2010, 09:36:52 PM
They had me going until the discussion turned to using a nuke to stop the oik leak in the gulf........not only is such an approach stupid, it would likely produce more environmental damage than the oil ever would.......

doc
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: NHSparky on May 01, 2010, 09:52:24 PM
And if you read the last paragraph, they refer to the "Rodong" missile.

Ain't no such thing.  It's a NODONG missile.

Looking at their website, it looks like shit that was too crazy for even Pravda to publish.  These are the same asshats that tried to claim that Obama ordered 1 million troops to be ready for the outbreak of civil war.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: PatriotGame on May 02, 2010, 02:07:02 AM
And if you read the last paragraph, they refer to the "Rodong" missile.

Ain't no such thing.  It's a NODONG missile.

Looking at their website, it looks like shit that was too crazy for even Pravda to publish.  These are the same asshats that tried to claim that Obama ordered 1 million troops to be ready for the outbreak of civil war.

I am thinking you are correct as the last time I was in S. Korea, LoDongKing (S. Korea's version of America's Burger King) was offering two RoDongDings (S. Korea's version of a double Dog Meat Burger), for a buck on their Double Dog Dollar Menu.
 :rotf: :hammer: :rotf: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue: :tongue:
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: miskie on May 02, 2010, 08:00:29 AM
Really ? I figured the platform was taken down by softball sized nukes that were quietly installed over the last few months . I suspect the submarine never existed, and was just a hologram made to look like a terra-ist attack so the Obama administration would have the excuse to use warfare as as means to correct a terrible economy.. DUAC !!!! DUAC !!!!

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41YVWVYTEYL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)

Seriously though -- this story does stir the imagination, but I believe it is nothing more than a story.


Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Linda on May 02, 2010, 12:45:41 PM
This story was written by SORCHA FAAL aka The Queen of Internet Hoax stories...
here is a link to there home page with this story smack dab in the middle of it....

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1367.htm
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 02, 2010, 12:56:16 PM
Now, how would North Korea end up in the Gulf of Mexico. That's quite a travel from North Korea to Mississippi Delta.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Godot showed up on May 02, 2010, 01:25:10 PM
I will say, though, that I still haven't read a conclusive explanation for the explosion. Pressure explosion is the main suspect, but who knows? I'm not saying it's this, just that--we still don't really know if it was an accident, or something else.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Linda on May 02, 2010, 02:42:03 PM
My bets are on eco-terrorist...it happened the day before Earth Day....
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: diesel driver on May 02, 2010, 04:41:24 PM
My bets are on eco-terrorist...it happened the day before Earth Day....

Me, too....

Where was Greenpeace prior to the explosion?

Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 02, 2010, 06:32:00 PM
It could have been Russians, they had naval ships leaving Venezuela at the time.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: jColes on May 02, 2010, 11:07:55 PM
The story seemed odd to me because I've sat across the Armistice Agreement negotiating table looking and talking directly to the KPA/DPRK representatives on the other side, and one thing they are not is suicidal...they are brutal and willing to waste the lives of their troops and citizens, but an attack on a facility so near US territorial waters would be suicidal -- not just for the 'trigger men,' but for the Kim ruling clique. Such an attack could not be kept quiet, even with a presidential secrecy order...

Someone else here said it perfectly: Ms. Faal is the queen of Internet hoaxes.

But just to be sure, I checked with people who watch the north Koreans every day...there is no ship bearing the name reported in the story and both KPA and Party Special Ops forces and naval assets are all accounted for. The Russian Navy has made no such assertion, as reported in the story. One of my friends works for the Russian northern Pacific Fleet in Vladivostok and when I asked him about Ms. Faal's story he wrote back that he had nearly fallen off his chair from laughing so hard...I also checked with MARFORPAC and PACOM in Hawaii and got similar responses from old friends still working there.
A nuke could not be used to seal the ruptured well-head...the damage would be exponentially greater than the oil leak.
As for the gentleman who disclaimed the spelling and pronunciation of 'Nodong' vs 'Rodong,' the N & R sounds are oddities of Hangul-Mal (the Korean language)...I don't have the software to show the Korean characters that make up Rodong, but in Hangul, the character that equates to our "R" sound is also used for our "N" sound, but Hangul is generally pronounced as the "R" sound...but as we Anglicize the character, we make it the "N" sound...either pronunciation is correct.

And now, after spending a herd of perfectly good electrons on this query I feel like a dope...but at least I gave long-time colleagues a good laugh.

 :banghead:


 
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 02, 2010, 11:33:59 PM
I never believed it.

You wouldn't use a torpedo, you would use divers to plant a device on the rig and then splode it when your farther away.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: littlelamb on May 03, 2010, 01:12:26 AM
I hope they find out who is responsible and sooner rather than later
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Chris on May 03, 2010, 07:08:03 AM
And now, after spending a herd of perfectly good electrons on this query I feel like a dope...but at least I gave long-time colleagues a good laugh.

 :banghead:

Thanks for stopping by. :rofl:
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: NHSparky on May 03, 2010, 08:18:36 AM
As for the gentleman who disclaimed the spelling and pronunciation of 'Nodong' vs 'Rodong,' the N & R sounds are oddities of Hangul-Mal (the Korean language)...I don't have the software to show the Korean characters that make up Rodong, but in Hangul, the character that equates to our "R" sound is also used for our "N" sound, but Hangul is generally pronounced as the "R" sound...but as we Anglicize the character, we make it the "N" sound...either pronunciation is correct.
 

Memo to noob troll:

We have Korean posters here.  And even the most basic of Google searches would have shown the English spelling (and pronunciation) is NODONG.  Leally.  Wearry.  Pluppy fluffy, pluppy...oh, puck you, man.

Have fun, and come back when you can't stay so long!
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: MarshallLaw on May 03, 2010, 08:45:32 AM
The story seemed odd to me because I've sat across the Armistice Agreement negotiating table looking and talking directly to the KPA/DPRK representatives on the other side,

But just to be sure, I checked with people who watch the north Koreans every day...there is no ship bearing the name reported in the story and both KPA and Party Special Ops forces and naval assets are all accounted for.

One of my friends works for the Russian northern Pacific Fleet in Vladivostok and when I asked him about Ms. Faal's story he wrote back that he had nearly fallen off his chair from laughing so hard...I also checked with MARFORPAC and PACOM in Hawaii and got similar responses from old friends still working there.

 


TiT, is that you?????
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 03, 2010, 08:57:07 AM
Hostile space aliens would be a much more likely explanation than a Nork sub loose in the Gulf of Mexico.  Jeeze.

 :hammer:
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Happy Fun Ball on May 03, 2010, 09:04:17 AM
Hostile space aliens would be a much more likely explanation than a Nork sub loose in the Gulf of Mexico.  Jeeze.

 :hammer:
(http://www.youthink.com/images/2009/08/14/youthinkdotcom_3019709_164669.jpg)
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: NHSparky on May 03, 2010, 09:59:29 AM

TiT, is that you?????

Nah, TiT wouldn't be smart enough to use the right abbreviations, although it baffles me why a command in Hawaii would necessarily give a shit about what happens in the Gulf of Mexico.  And using MARFORPAC?  We got a bunch of Marines running around the Korean peninsula that nobody knows about?
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Thor on May 04, 2010, 09:10:32 AM
I've noticed on Facebook that many people are leaning towards some sort of conspiracy theory as far as this oil rig getting blown up. Albeit not necessarily the N Korean theory, but possibly our own Government or some other nefarious faction. I find it pretty "convenient" that 0bama was just discussing more drilling and then this crap "just happens". (No cause has yet been determined) The timing seems to be impeccable, IMO.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: thundley4 on May 04, 2010, 09:47:50 AM
I've noticed on Facebook that many people are leaning towards some sort of conspiracy theory as far as this oil rig getting blown up. Albeit not necessarily the N Korean theory, but possibly our own Government or some other nefarious faction. I find it pretty "convenient" that 0bama was just discussing more drilling and then this crap "just happens". (No cause has yet been determined) The timing seems to be impeccable, IMO.

Kind of like the lawsuit against Goldman Sachs and Wallstreet reform legislation?
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: AllosaursRus on May 04, 2010, 11:42:57 AM

TiT, is that you?????

Heh, heh, beat me to it!
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Thor on May 04, 2010, 04:11:12 PM
Kind of like the lawsuit against Goldman Sachs and Wallstreet reform legislation?

Yeah, that, too......... what better way to manipulate public opinion than the "create" "monsters in the dark" ??
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: PatriotGame on May 04, 2010, 11:20:37 PM
Is there any validity to the following?
It has been circulating via many emails I have been receiving lately. I have traveling a lot lately and am a little burnt from the long hours.

Input?

===


May 1, 2010
 
US Orders Blackout over North Korean Torpedoing of Gulf of Mexico Oil Rig 

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers 

A grim report circulating in the Kremlin today written by Russia’s Northern Fleet is reporting that
the United States has ordered a complete media blackout over North Korea’s torpedoing of the
giant Deepwater Horizon oil platform owned by the World’s largest offshore drilling contractor
Transocean that was built and financed by South Korea’s Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd.,
that has caused great loss of life, untold billions in economic damage to the South Korean
economy, and an environmental catastrophe to the United States.

Most important to understand about this latest attack by North Korea against its South Korean
enemy is that under the existing “laws of war” it was a permissible action as they remain in a
state of war against each other due to South Korea’s refusal to sign the 1953 Armistice ending
the Korean War. 

To the attack itself, these reports continue, the North Korean “cargo vessel” Dai Hong Dan
believed to be staffed by 17th Sniper Corps “suicide” troops left Cuba’s Empresa Terminales
Mambisas de La Habana (Port of Havana) on April 18th whereupon it “severely deviated” from
its intended course for Venezuela’s Puerto Cabello bringing it to within 209 kilometers (130
miles) of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform which was located 80 kilometers (50 miles) off the
coast of the US State of Louisiana where it launched an SSC Sang-o Class Mini Submarine
(Yugo class) estimated to have an operational range of 321 kilometers (200 miles). 

On the night of April 20th the North Korean Mini Submarine manned by these “suicidal” 17th
Sniper Corps soldiers attacked the Deepwater Horizon with what are believed to be 2 incendiary
torpedoes causing a massive explosion and resulting in 11 workers on this giant oil rig being
killed outright.  Barely 48 hours later, on April 22nd , this North Korean Mini Submarine
committed its final atrocity by exploding itself directly beneath the Deepwater Horizon causing
this $1 Billion oil rig to sink beneath the seas and marking 2010’s celebration of Earth Day with
one of the largest environmental catastrophes our World has ever seen. 

To the reason for North Korea attacking the Deepwater Horizon, these reports say, was to
present US President Obama with an “impossible dilemma” prior to the opening of the United
Nations Review Conference of the Parties to the Treat on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear
Weapons (NPT) set to begin May 3rd in New York. 

This “impossible dilemma” facing Obama is indeed real as the decision he is faced with is either
to allow the continuation of this massive oil leak catastrophe to continue for months, or
immediately stop it by the only known and proven means possible, the detonation of a
thermonuclear device. 

Russian Navy atomic experts in these reports state that should Obama choose the “nuclear
option” the most viable weapon at his disposal is the United States B83 (Mk-83) strategic
thermonuclear bomb having a variable yield (Low Kiloton Range to 1,200 Kilotons) which with its
12 foot length and 18 inch diameter, and weighing just over 2,400 pounds, is readily able to be
deployed and detonated by a remote controlled mini-sub.


Should Obama choose the “nuclear option” it appears that he would be supported by the
International Court of Justice who on July 8, 1996 issued an advisory opinion on the use of
nuclear weapons stating that they could not conclude definitively on these weapons use in
“extreme circumstances” or “self defense”. 
On the other hand, if Obama chooses the “nuclear option” it would leave the UN’s nuclear
conference in shambles with every Nation in the World having oil rigs off their coasts demanding
an equal right to atomic weapons to protect their environment from catastrophes too, including
Iran.   

To whatever decision Obama makes it remains a fact that with each passing hour this
environmental catastrophe grows worse. And even though Obama has ordered military SWAT
teams to protect other oil rigs in the Gulf of Mexico from any further attack, and further ordered
that all drilling in the Gulf of Mexico be immediately stopped, this massive oil spill has already
reached the shores of America and with high waves and more bad weather forecast the
likelihood of it being stopped from destroying thousands of miles of US coastland and wildlife
appears unstoppable.
 
And not just to the environmental catastrophe that is unfolding the only devastation to be
wrecked upon the United States and South Korea by this North Korean attack as the economic
liabilities associated with this disaster are estimated by these Russian reports to be between
$500 Billion to $1.5 Trillion, and which only a declaration of this disaster being an “act of war”
would free some the World’s largest corporations from bankruptcy.

Important to note too in all of these events was that this was the second attack by North Korea
on its South Korean enemy, and US ally, in a month as we had reported on in our March 28th
report titled “Obama Orders ‘Immediate Stand-down’ After Deadly North Korean Attack”
and which to date neither the Americans or South Korea have retaliated for and giving one
senior North Korean party leader the courage to openly state that the North Korean military took
“gratifying revenge” on South Korea.

And for those believing that things couldn’t get worse, they couldn’t be more mistaken as new
reports coming from Japanese military sources are stating that North Korea is preparing for new
launches of its 1,300 kilometer (807 miles) intermediate range ballistic “Rodong” missile which
Russian Space Forces experts state is able to “deploy and detonate” an atomic electromagnetic
pulse (EMP) device, and which if detonated high in the atmosphere could effectively destroy the
American economy for years, if not decades, to come.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: thundley4 on May 04, 2010, 11:32:39 PM
Nope, the site that came from makes most tabloid newspapers seem like the gospel truth.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: PatriotGame on May 05, 2010, 12:14:50 AM
This story was written by SORCHA FAAL aka The Queen of Internet Hoax stories...
here is a link to there home page with this story smack dab in the middle of it....

http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1367.htm

Aw shit!

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=43723.0

I am too fracking tired to delete it, I just wanted a hand-hold and a little input.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: The Village Idiot on May 05, 2010, 12:30:30 AM
50,000 extra N Korean troops deployed along border



SEOUL, May 5 (Yonhap) -- North Korea has recently deployed about 50,000 special forces along its border with South Korea, a source here said Wednesday, as tension rises on the divided peninsula over a suspected deadly North Korean attack on a South Korean warship.

"North Korea recently completed the frontline deployment of seven light infantry divisions, which is something it had been pushing for since two to three years ago," the high-level source said, adding each division consists of about 7,000 troops.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Chris on May 05, 2010, 01:42:24 AM
Aw shit!

http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php?topic=43723.0

I am too fracking tired to delete it, I just wanted a hand-hold and a little input.

Yeah, I moved your post over here since there was already a thread on it. :p
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: TheSarge on May 05, 2010, 04:56:35 AM
Now, how would North Korea end up in the Gulf of Mexico. That's quite a travel from North Korea to Mississippi Delta.

Not really.  The ChiComs own both ends of the Canal now...along with most of the Canal Zone.  To the point that ChiCom troops have conducted training missions at our old installations.

Slip a NoKo sub through the canal at night...let it dock at a Cuban Naval base...there you go.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: TheSarge on May 05, 2010, 04:58:27 AM
Something like a deilberate attack on an oil platform would explain the Obama soundbite last week that he was sending Swat Teams out to the platforms.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: thundley4 on May 05, 2010, 07:18:28 AM
Something like a deilberate attack on an oil platform would explain the Obama soundbite last week that he was sending Swat Teams out to the platforms.

That SWAT team comment really made no sense, unless he had information that it was not an accident.  Strangely, that hasn't been covered by the news .
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: TheSarge on May 05, 2010, 08:55:18 AM
That SWAT team comment really made no sense, unless he had information that it was not an accident.  Strangely, that hasn't been covered by the news .

It really made no sense since he said the Department of the Interior was the one sending the teams.

WTF???

Mark Levin said on his Thursday show last week that in his opinion they are on the platforms seizing doccuments...that this is the first step in the Obama Administration's move to Nationalize the oil companies.

Either way...subs or seizures...it's frightening to think about and maddening at the same time that the media isn't doing their job in finding out what the hell is going on.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 05, 2010, 09:32:49 AM
Not really.  The ChiComs own both ends of the Canal now...along with most of the Canal Zone.  To the point that ChiCom troops have conducted training missions at our old installations.

Slip a NoKo sub through the canal at night...let it dock at a Cuban Naval base...there you go.

Getting a diesel boat all the way across the Pacific and sneaking through the canal with it, even with the covert help of the canal operator, is a whole lot more difficult than you think.  We have assets all over Panama, and nothing goes through it unsurveilled, not even counting the sats.  The locks are far too shallow for a sub to go through submerged.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: TheSarge on May 05, 2010, 09:45:36 AM
Getting a diesel boat all the way across the Pacific and sneaking through the canal with it, even with the covert help of the canal operator, is a whole lot more difficult than you think.  We have assets all over Panama, and nothing goes through it unsurveilled, not even counting the sats.  The locks are far too shallow for a sub to go through submerged.

At the risk of sounding tinfoil-ish...do you really think this administration is looking that closely at what the ChiComs and North Korea are doing these days?  And even if they did...just turn a blind eye to it?
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 05, 2010, 09:54:27 AM
At the risk of sounding tinfoil-ish...do you really think this administration is looking that closely at what the ChiComs and North Korea are doing these days?  And even if they did...just turn a blind eye to it?

As someone pointed out in another context yesterday on television (to some idiot who was crowing about how wonderful the government was with Obama in charge vs. how bad it was under Bush, in fact), it's the same govenment and intelligence organizations that we had before the election, but just with new figureheads.  Granted the new ones all have their own pet rocks like teh Ghey DOD, wimmin on subs, and 'Dialog' with Iran, but all the operators and agencies are still doing essentially the same stuff.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Chris_ on May 05, 2010, 10:39:08 AM
As someone pointed out in another context yesterday on television (to some idiot who was crowing about how wonderful the government was with Obama in charge vs. how bad it was under Bush, in fact), it's the same govenment and intelligence organizations that we had before the election, but just with new figureheads.  Granted the new ones all have their own pet rocks like teh Ghey DOD, wimmin on subs, and 'Dialog' with Iran, but all the operators and agencies are still doing essentially the same stuff.

At least they are when they aren't dodging incoming supoenas from this administration's Justice Dept.......

doc
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: AllosaursRus on May 05, 2010, 03:09:19 PM
50,000 extra N Korean troops deployed along border



SEOUL, May 5 (Yonhap) -- North Korea has recently deployed about 50,000 special forces along its border with South Korea, a source here said Wednesday, as tension rises on the divided peninsula over a suspected deadly North Korean attack on a South Korean warship.

"North Korea recently completed the frontline deployment of seven light infantry divisions, which is something it had been pushing for since two to three years ago," the high-level source said, adding each division consists of about 7,000 troops.


Perhaps they think we are to strung out to aid our friends. Those dumb****s never heard of stealth bombers???? 49,000 shrapnel filled corpses ya mean!
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: AllosaursRus on May 05, 2010, 03:11:30 PM
Not really.  The ChiComs own both ends of the Canal now...along with most of the Canal Zone.  To the point that ChiCom troops have conducted training missions at our old installations.

Slip a NoKo sub through the canal at night...let it dock at a Cuban Naval base...there you go.

Uh, ya mean the Panamanians let this happen? That would be a big mistake! I know they frown on America at times, but they aren't that frikkin' insane!
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on May 05, 2010, 04:32:16 PM
I think The Onion or The Bunny News Network is more reliable than that sight.
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Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: LC EFA on May 05, 2010, 05:20:03 PM
50,000 extra N Korean troops deployed along border



SEOUL, May 5 (Yonhap) -- North Korea has recently deployed about 50,000 special forces along its border with South Korea, a source here said Wednesday, as tension rises on the divided peninsula over a suspected deadly North Korean attack on a South Korean warship.

"North Korea recently completed the frontline deployment of seven light infantry divisions, which is something it had been pushing for since two to three years ago," the high-level source said, adding each division consists of about 7,000 troops.


Wouldn't that be another 50K troops.

It's not like the NK border isn't already fairly heavily loaded with combat assets.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: AllosaursRus on May 05, 2010, 05:25:39 PM
Wouldn't that be another 50K troops.

It's not like the NK border isn't already fairly heavily loaded with combat assets.


Depends on how many have "defected" to the promised land.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: Ptarmigan on May 05, 2010, 09:17:09 PM
Not really.  The ChiComs own both ends of the Canal now...along with most of the Canal Zone.  To the point that ChiCom troops have conducted training missions at our old installations.

Slip a NoKo sub through the canal at night...let it dock at a Cuban Naval base...there you go.

There is also Venezuela and Cuba, where they can stop at.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: jColes on May 05, 2010, 10:52:16 PM
I am thoroughly convinced that this story is a hoax, nonetheless, there are scenario elements in this fiction that are not beyond the bounds of possibility. For one thing, north Korean special operations mini-subs are transportable by surface ship of appropriate size and structure, of which the north Korean 'merchant fleet' has several that could (emphasize theoretical potential) be used for long-haul movement of a mini-sub & crew. The captured nK mini-sub that I saw in 1997 was of a type suitable only for inserting special troops onto the shore and did not have a torpedo tube; however, both nK navy and the party-directed special operations have either modified, laid new keels or bought small subs capable of firing a compact torpedo...so, such an attack might be possible in the future.

As the north Koreans are generally not keen on port or transit inspections, their long-haul freight ships generally transit from the Pacific to Atlantic via the South African cape route, rather than risk the confines of the Suez or Panama canals. With safe harbors in Angola, Cuba and now Venezuela, nK shipping can operate far from home...nK naval ships are generally equipped or manned for long-range, blue water operations; so what I'm talking about are (allegedly) civilian shipping.

The north Korean regime is both evil and a constant irritant to everyone in the northeastern Pacific Rim, and boldly foolish enough to attempt to make trouble anywhere else in the world the Kim ruling clique thinks it can get away with it.

I'm impressed that everyone in this thread has the right idea about the north Korea...
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on May 06, 2010, 08:36:39 AM
Loss of the rig itself would have a trivial impact on the economy or availability of oil, the disaster part of this comes in from BP's utter failure to have a working check valve at depth, which is something the Norks couldn't possibly have known would happen.  Leave this stuff for the Troofers.

The wellhead is down about 5 times the crush depth of even the best WWII long-range subs, it would take a true deep-diving submersible or really decent deep ocean robotics operated from a mothership to screw with the well, the Norks just don't have that stuff.  Those Nork 'plastic' subs are really only designed to go deep enough to avoid surface sensor arrays, nothing more.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: crockspot on May 22, 2010, 10:23:24 PM
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/us-orders-blackout-over-north-korean-torpedoing-of-gulf-of-mexico-oil-rig/

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A grim report circulating in the Kremlin today written by Russia’s Northern Fleet is reporting that the United States has ordered a complete media blackout over North Korea’s torpedoing of the giant Deepwater Horizon oil platform owned by the World’s largest offshore drilling contractor Transocean that was built and financed by South Korea’s Hyundai Heavy Industries Co. Ltd., that has caused great loss of life, untold billions in economic damage to the South Korean economy, and an environmental catastrophe to the United States.

Most important to understand about this latest attack by North Korea against its South Korean enemy is that under the existing “laws of war” it was a permissible action as they remain in a state of war against each other due to South Korea’s refusal to sign the 1953 Armistice ending the Korean War.

To the attack itself, these reports continue, the North Korean “cargo vessel” Dai Hong Dan believed to be staffed by 17th Sniper Corps “suicide” troops left Cuba’s Empresa Terminales Mambisas de La Habana (Port of Havana) on April 18th whereupon it “severely deviated” from its intended course for Venezuela’s Puerto Cabello bringing it to within 209 kilometers (130 miles) of the Deepwater Horizon oil platform which was located 80 kilometers (50 miles) off the coast of the US State of Louisiana where it launched an SSC Sang-o Class Mini Submarine (Yugo class) estimated to have an operational range of 321 kilometers (200 miles).

On the night of April 20th the North Korean Mini Submarine manned by these “suicidal” 17th Sniper Corps soldiers attacked the Deepwater Horizon with what are believed to be 2 incendiary torpedoes causing a massive explosion and resulting in 11 workers on this giant oil rig being killed outright.  Barely 48 hours later, on April 22nd , this North Korean Mini Submarine committed its final atrocity by exploding itself directly beneath the Deepwater Horizon causing this $1 Billion oil rig to sink beneath the seas and marking 2010’s celebration of Earth Day with one of the largest environmental catastrophes our World has ever seen.

more at link

If this is true.... holy shi'ite.
Title: Re: US Orders Blackout Over North Korean Torpedoing Of Gulf Of Mexico Oil Rig
Post by: NHSparky on May 23, 2010, 08:48:41 AM
http://www.eutimes.net/2010/05/us-orders-blackout-over-north-korean-torpedoing-of-gulf-of-mexico-oil-rig/

If this is true.... holy shi'ite.

It's not.  EUtimes is the shit that's too wacky for Pravda.ru.  They're the ones who said there was going to be a second civil war in March.