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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: The Village Idiot on May 01, 2010, 11:57:16 AM
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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5juui7didNwh_vzBmJyrbjxkeF-IgD9FE4Q900
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ANN ARBOR, Mich. — President Barack Obama took aim Saturday at the angry rhetoric of those who denigrate government as "inherently bad" and said their off-base line of attack ignores the fact that in a democracy, "government is us."
Obama used his commencement speech at the University of Michigan to respond to foes who portray government as oppressive and tyrannical. He also appealed for a more civil political debate and advised graduates to seek out and consider alternative views on the issues of the day, even if it makes their "blood boil."
Just 45 miles from the immense Michigan Stadium, capacity of 106,201, 2008 GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin held court in Clarkston, tearing into Obama's policies at a forum hosted by the anti-tax Americans for Prosperity Foundation.
The president told students and others in the audience — the school stopping giving out tickets once 80,000 were distributed — that debates about the size and role of government are as old as the republic itself.
"But it troubles me when I hear people say that all of government is inherently bad," said Obama, who received an honorary doctor of laws degree. "For when our government is spoken of as some menacing, threatening foreign entity, it conveniently ignores the fact in our democracy, government is us."
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Government increased its own workforce during a deep recession, government spent a trillion dollars more during a recession, their employees got pay raises and more benefits that the private sector will never see.
Does anyone really think the government is us?
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Hurl time.
You won't believe this.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/05/01/obama_weve_seen_the_dangers_of_too_little_government.html
BTW- The financial sector is the most heavily regulated thing we have.
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in a democracy, "government is us."
Dumbass doesn't even realize that the Constitution and the Founding Fathers set the Nation up to be a Republic, not a democracy. I'll bet most of those in the audience don't know this either.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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"Government at it's best is a necessary evil, and at it's worst is an intolerable evil."
-- Thomas Jefferson
"Government is not reason; it is not eloquence; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master."
-- George Washington
Knowing that ol' Tom and George had seen a few governments in their day - exhibiting varying degrees of despotism and tyranny, respectively - I'll take their word over that of an unaccomplished, jug-eared, Kenyan muslim any day of the week.
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Knowing that ol' Tom and George had seen a few governments in their day - exhibiting varying degrees of despotism and tyranny, respectively - I'll take their word over that of an unaccomplished, jug-eared, Kenyan muslim any day of the week.
If Jefferson and Washington were alive today, they would call for a revolution, the same way we revolted against King George.
My favorite Jefferson quote, in a letter to James Madison on January 30, 1787, expressing justification for the series of protests led by Daniel Shay and a group of 1,200 farmers.
I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical
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If only government did what "us" wanted it to do.
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President Obama during his commencement address at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor: "If you're a fan of Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh, try reading a few columns on the Huffington Post website." (source: C-SPAN)
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Obama blog pimping an "objective" website.
lol
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Obama blog pimping an "objective" website.
lol
Hell Beck and Rush mention crap from huffington almost daily.
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Dear Mr Jug-Eared Half-Wit,
- Greece
- Portugal
- Spain
- France
- Russia
- China
- North Korea
- Iran
- Venezuela
- Syria
- Cuba
I know that--ordinarily--these are places you admire run by people you idolize but they aren't exactly paragons of government-centered systems. They have an abundance of government; more than we have here in the US. The dire circumstances they find themselves in is not in spite of their abundance of government but because of the abundance of their government.
Their very existence disproves your premise.
We do not want to be like them. If you want to be chief executive of one of these nations we would do nothing to hinder your ascension. Just admit that we do not deserve your awesomely awesomeness and we will gladly deport graciously part with your company. All that is required is that you come into law contact with an Arizona state trooper.
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President Obama during his commencement address at the University of Michigan in Ann Arbor: "If you're a fan of Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh, try reading a few columns on the Huffington Post website." (source: C-SPAN)
For an asshole who insists he is the president for all Americans he sure is intent on naming who is and is not on his favorable list.
BTW - Firefox's spelling dictionary recognizes "Glenn" with 2 n's and "Limbaugh" but not "Huffington."
There's a measure of notoriety for you.
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Nobody's ever died from "too much" freedom.
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Nobody's ever died from "too much" freedom.
Nonsense.
Lefties have killed over 100 million people they considered to have had too much freedom.
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Dear Zerobummer,
I'm seeing the danger of too much government on a daily basis of late.