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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Alpha Mare on April 27, 2010, 02:44:12 AM
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First up, a super-DUper in-the-know fixer
SargeUNN (443 posts) Tue Apr-27-10 06:16 AM
Original message
Everybody step back take a breath, We will defeat this law in AZ
Edited on Tue Apr-27-10 06:20 AM by SargeUNN
I know everyone is upset, and worry about this law, but folks there are many here in Arizona that are working on overturning it and we will. Not every action can be made public at this time, but not only are the Democrats working on it, but some Republicans who are upset about it are working along with us to overturn this. We have a governor's race coming up this year and we have a strong Democrat that is very likely to win that will see this law gets off the books.
As for Arpaio, the investigation into him has become very interesting and while some stuff is not available for the public at that time, the investigation is going to bring down Arpaio and his cheif deputy. The thing is that actions take time to get to the point they can be made public, but they are going on and Arpaio and this horrendous law are going down.
Jeff Farias, and us at our network are working on keeping you as informed of this as we can, and we do talk to people who are aware of what is what so we know what is going on even if we can't tell all yet. If you really want to know what is going on tune in, we are trying to keep you informed.
:whatever:
Better Today (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-27-10 06:22 AM
Response to Original message
1. No, it's been ten years coming, at least. Don't tell us to "slow down,
back up, and give you a chance to start over",. . . gee who does that sound like?
:lmao:
pinto (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-27-10 06:25 AM
Response to Original message
3. I'm glad to see that it's already been challenged. Seems to be so vague as to be unconstitutional.
You might want to take a peak at federal laws, Spot.
BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-27-10 06:27 AM
Response to Original message
4. Can you please tell me what % of white Arizonans support this law?
SargeUNN (443 posts) Tue Apr-27-10 06:30 AM
Response to Reply #4
7. sorry I have no stats on it
I can tell you that the 70% stat given by one poll is a trumped up poll.
:o
saracat (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-27-10 06:33 AM
Response to Reply #4
8. Probably very few.
BlooInBloo (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #8
11. Just out of curiousity, if "very few" white folks support it, and we assume for the sake
of argument that very few hispanic Arizonans support it, then, um.... how on earth did it get passed?
I realize it's all speculation, since we don't have real numbers in front of us. Just going with your speculation.
How do you think that's possible? Do you think Native Americans were unanimous in their support for it, and the Arizona legislators listened to them? What's your best theory about that?
:lmao:
saracat (1000+ posts) Response to Reply #11
19. First of all, the legislators in question are the worst of the worst because only the arch
partisan loons vote in the GOP primary and they only nominate loons. The rest of the GOP vote blind. Our death knell was sounded when we lost Janet Napolitano.
Follwed by more idiotic reasoning.
BlooInBloo (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #22
23. So your theory is that the legislators passed it without the support...
of just almost no Arizonans (white, black, hispanic, Native American, asian, etc.)?
:rotf:
KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-27-10 06:51 AM
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14. This Can't Fade Away...
If you let these disgraceful fascist laws to take root...to make it look like it's working or that it the "voters think its ok", other states will follow the leader...and soon this problem becomes bigger and harder to contain.
We mustn't let the voters decide or we're DOOMED! Blithering idiot.
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Give all the DUmmies in favor of letting all the illegals into the U.S. a pint of water, two left handed cigarettes and send them out into the AZ. desert at high noon as a welcome committee.
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I dont know but it seems to me more and more people are forgetting to put in links :)
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts)
Response to Reply #22
23. So your theory is that the legislators passed it without the support...
of just almost no Arizonans (white, black, hispanic, Native American, asian, etc.)?
Actually, this is plausible. Just look at health care at the Federal level.
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-27-10 06:27 AM
Response to Original message
4. Can you please tell me what % of white Arizonans support this law?
Yes, that would be the "if too many white people like it" clause of the Constitution.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8223639 :p
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I'm going out on limb but it sounds like Sheriff Arapio has about 24 business hours to get his affairs in order.
The great thing about the Arizona Common Sense Law is that it is essentially the same as federal law.
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SargeUNN (443 posts) Tue Apr-27-10 06:16 AM
Original message
Everybody step back take a breath, We will defeat this law in AZ
Edited on Tue Apr-27-10 06:20 AM by SargeUNN
I know everyone is upset, and worry about this law, but folks there are many here in Arizona that are working on overturning it and we will. Not every action can be made public at this time, but not only are the Democrats working on it, but some Republicans who are upset about it are working along with us to overturn this. We have a governor's race coming up this year and we have a strong Democrat that is very likely to win that will see this law gets off the books.
As for Arpaio, the investigation into him has become very interesting and while some stuff is not available for the public at that time, the investigation is going to bring down Arpaio and his cheif deputy. The thing is that actions take time to get to the point they can be made public, but they are going on and Arpaio and this horrendous law are going down.
Jeff Farias, and us at our network are working on keeping you as informed of this as we can, and we do talk to people who are aware of what is what so we know what is going on even if we can't tell all yet. If you really want to know what is going on tune in, we are trying to keep you informed.
You have to stop getting your data from DU in house polls.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections2/election_2010/election_2010_governor_elections/arizona/election_2010_arizona_governor
Election 2010: Arizona Governor
Arizona Governor: Goddard Loses Ground To All GOP Hopefuls
Wednesday, April 21, 2010
The top four contenders for Arizona’s Republican gubernatorial nomination, including incumbent Governor Jan Brewer, have all expanded their support since last month in match-ups with the likely Democratic nominee, State Attorney General Terry Goddard. The Democrat has lost ground and now trails in all four contests
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saracat (1000+ posts) Response to Reply #11
19. First of all, the legislators in question are the worst of the worst because only the arch
partisan loons vote in the GOP primary and they only nominate loons. The rest of the GOP vote blind. Our death knell was sounded when we lost Janet Napolitano.
I would think that would be a frikkin' godsend for AZ! Sucks for the rest of the country, but good for the people of AZ.
What a stinkin' loser! If a Dem wins an election this year, it will be because there are only left wing loons voting in the race or they are running unopposed!
Sit on it and twirl, DUmbass!
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Well, the thread turned extra stupid when Beth showed up. It devolved into arguments about voting technology. Not particularly spine-tingling. This quote caught my eye:
tavalon (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-27-10 02:52 AM
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15. Of course it will be gotten rid of
But I'm just as pleased as punch that this caused a hornets nest of fury from the left. The right had no idea what they were going to stir up. Perhaps they'll be just a little more careful in the future and not just take it for granted that we will roll over for any stupid ass piece of legislation they decide to vomit up.
Just substitute right for left.
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These facist laws are keeping crime down and keeping us from declaring martial law and sending in the National Guard so we can stay in power forever.
Those facists.
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Not every action can be made public at this time,
and while some stuff is not available for the public at that time,
Which translated means, "We're not doing shit. We don't even have a case. But keep clicking my threads to hear more tantalizing tidbits of BS."
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Which translated means, "We're not doing shit. We don't even have a case. But keep clicking my threads to hear more tantalizing tidbits of BS."
Jason Leopold, is that you? :tongue:
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Jason Leopold, is that you? :tongue:
I think it must be the Pittster's sock puppet.
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avalon (1000+ posts) Tue Apr-27-10 02:52 AM
Response to Original message
15. Of course it will be gotten rid of
But I'm just as pleased as punch that this caused a hornets nest of fury from the left. The right had no idea what they were going to stir up. Perhaps they'll be just a little more careful in the future and not just take it for granted that we will roll over for any stupid ass piece of legislation they decide to vomit up.
"Who is 'we,' kimosabe?"
I think it safe to say that neither the Arizona legislature nor the 70% of Arizonians who approve of this law give a flying **** what a bunch of screeching out-of-state moonbats will "roll over" for when it comes to their business.
It may go to court and the chips will fall where they may, but it won't be because of any of you assholes, no matter how much you stamp your feet and hold your breath.
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"Who is 'we,' kimosabe?"
I think it safe to say that neither the Arizona legislature nor the 70% of Arizonians who approve of this law give a flying **** what a bunch of screeching out-of-state moonbats will "roll over" for when it comes to their business.
It may go to court and the chips will fall where they may, but it won't be because of any of you assholes, no matter how much you stamp your feet and hold your breath.
...........we can only hope!
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I'm happy to learn that DUmmy SargeUNN is the key in-the-know Arizona democrat, with all the double secret info and access. His grammar, punctuation, and sentence structure are those of a below-average middle school kid. Democrat efforts in Arizona are in good hands.
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Which translated means, "We're not doing shit. We don't even have a case. But keep clicking my threads to hear more tantalizing tidbits of BS."
And don't forget to send that ten bucks, we're only 24 business hours away from conviction. :-)
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And don't forget to send that ten bucks, we're only 24 business hours away from conviction. :-)
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