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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on April 25, 2010, 01:19:11 PM
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr-25-10 09:36 AM
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At the onset of the Korean War first thing that was done was all suspected leftists were executed
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356539,00.html
Researchers Discover Remains of Thousands Executed During Korean War
Sunday, May 18, 2008
Associated Press
Grave by mass grave, South Korea is unearthing the skeletons and buried truths of a cold-blooded slaughter from early in the Korean War, when this nation's U.S.-backed regime killed untold thousands of leftists and hapless peasants in a summer of terror in 1950.
With U.S. military officers sometimes present, and as North Korean invaders pushed down the peninsula, the southern army and police emptied South Korean prisons, lined up detainees and shot them in the head, dumping the bodies into hastily dug trenches. Others were thrown into abandoned mines or into the sea. Women and children were among those killed. Many victims never faced charges or trial.
The mass executions — intended to keep possible southern leftists from reinforcing the northerners — were carried out over mere weeks and were largely hidden from history for a half-century. They were "the most tragic and brutal chapter of the Korean War," said historian Kim Dong-choon, a member of a 2-year-old government commission investigating the killings.
Hundreds of sets of remains have been uncovered so far, but researchers say they are only a tiny fraction of the deaths. The commission estimates at least 100,000 people were executed, in a South Korean population of 20 million.
MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr-25-10 09:39 AM
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1. It's easy to explain how fascists ran South Korea until the 1980's
There was no one left to moderate them
The 80's?
*think*think*think*
Who was around in the US in the 80's?
dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr-25-10 09:50 AM
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2. That happened in many many countries when the right wing took power.
It has happened so often that most leftists know they are targets.
I did not know about So. Korea however. Wow.
FARC
Shining Path
Tamil Tigers
Red Brigades
Red Army Faction
Weather Underground
Not targeted enough IMHO.
FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr-25-10 10:20 AM
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6. Communist party - Stalin - murdered over 400,000
You can hardly say it is a "Right Wing" thing
400,000?
Stalin can claim tens of millions and communism claims hundreds of millions.
BTW - you lefty shitbags idolize Marx even though he preached violent revolution. How many DU'ers run around with Marx or Che as an avatar?
malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr-25-10 09:52 AM
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3. That has long been the model
:puke:
And you've been sniffing modeling glue.
Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr-25-10 09:56 AM
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4. It also happened in countries where the left wing took power (Stalin, Pol Pot)
Murders on a grand scale are committed by totalitarian monsters on both sides of the political spectrum.
Somehow I don't think you know what "totalitarian" truly means because that "totalitarian monster" is a consensual government today.
NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr-25-10 10:13 AM
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5. Were there U.S. military officers watching Stalin or Pol Pot?
Your liberal democrat hero, FDR was sucking Stalin's cock even though Churchill saw exactly what was coming and warned him.
Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr-25-10 10:32 AM
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7. U.S. military backed the right wing government Pol Pot destroyed...
Then Pol Pot murdered more than a million people in the Killing fields.
The U.S. Military watching Stalin? You must be kidding. No, he murdered around 20 million all on his own. He was as leftist as you can get, as well as being a totalitarian dictator.
We are offended by what happened in Korea, but we do need to recognize such excesses happen under left wing governments outside our control.
Here's a comparison:
South Korea 50 years after that dreadful event.
North Korea 50 years after that dreadful event.
Which one do YOU want to claim allegiance to?
Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr-25-10 12:14 PM
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8. You should have stuck with Stalin.
a) we deliberately created the conditions that allowed Pol Pot to take power by installing an only somewhat less murderous rightwing regime to replace the neutral Sihanouk government in our campaign to spread the war to Cambodia.
b) after the Vietnamese stepped in and tossed the murderous Pol Pot regime out, we backed their guerrilla war against the new government for at least 10 years.
The point is not that leftist authoritarian regimes have not been murderous thugs, the point I think is that we have enabled assisted and encouraged rightist authoritarian regimes around the planet for at least the last 50 years.
The point is communists and their leftist lackeys should be hunted down and exterminated without mercy or apology.
Pavulon (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr-25-10 01:45 PM
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10. Stalin killed millions (plural). We have lots of catching up to do...
really stalin trumps any of the people we backed to serve our interests around the world.
Like Paulsby this guy won't last forever.
jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr-25-10 01:39 PM
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9. Did someone say Stalin?
Does preventing Hitler from stopping Stalin count?
Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr-25-10 01:50 PM
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11. Interesting how the mass-murders of Pol Pot, Stalin, and even Hitler are presented as "left wing" Updated at 10:04 PM
when accounts/discoveries these atrocities are released.
:kick: & R
wow...that's some serious denial there.
Here's the difference for you lurking shitbags:
It was time of war and the UN forces were on the ropes. They could not afford to police collaborators or see prisoners impressed into service of the Norks.
Even then the killings were at that time for that purpose. When the war and the emergency ended so did the killings.
Leftists on the other hand use violence to gain power and violence to retain power. It is not a temporary measure it is a standard of conduct. You kill to get your way and you kill anyone who challenges your power once you have attained it. Killing is a temporary feature of rightist power; its a permanent fixture for the left (and your misogynist friends, the Muslims).
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The top ten genocides of the 20th Century
1. Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
2. Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's famine)
3. Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)
4. Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII)
5. Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-20) 1,200,000 Armenians (1915) + 350,000 Greek Pontians and 480,000 Anatolian Greeks (1916-22) + 500,000 Assyrians (1915-20)
6. Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000
7. Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94) 1.6 million (purges and concentration camps)
8. Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78) 1,500,000
9. Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970) 1,000,000
10. Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982) 900,000
Can any DUchebag point out any rightwing dictators in the above list?
P.S. For the history challenged Dumbasses, National Socialist Party = NAZI.
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The top ten genocides of the 20th Century
1. Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
2. Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's famine)
3. Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)
4. Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII)
5. Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-20) 1,200,000 Armenians (1915) + 350,000 Greek Pontians and 480,000 Anatolian Greeks (1916-22) + 500,000 Assyrians (1915-20)
6. Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000
7. Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94) 1.6 million (purges and concentration camps)
8. Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78) 1,500,000
9. Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970) 1,000,000
10. Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982) 900,000
Can any DUchebag point out any rightwing dictators in the above list?
P.S. For the history challenged Dumbasses, National Socialist Party = NAZI.
I'm sure that the idiots would add GW Bush in that list at number 5 - right behind Hitler since he killed or displaced 8.6 million Iraqis according to primitive-approved sources.
The war in Iraq has killed, wounded or displaced nearly one third of Iraq’s 26 million people. Thousands of U.S. soldiers have been killed, and hundreds of thousands more have suffered severe physical and psychological wounds. The U.S. leaders who have initiated and conducted this criminal war should be tried and jailed for war crimes.
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Right wingers are pikers compared to the Left when it comes to killing metric shitloads of people for "the cause." You pretty much have to exterminate people on a grand scale to get a populace to fall in line with the kind of slavery Communism and extreme Socialism both impose "for the good of the people." Human nature abhors it.
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Grave by mass grave, South Korea is unearthing the skeletons and buried truths of a cold-blooded slaughter from early in the Korean War, when this nation's U.S.-backed regime killed untold thousands of leftists and hapless peasants in a summer of terror in 1950.
Bastards! Who was President in 1950 ? I 'll bet it was a repuke!!
::)
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Apr-25-10 09:50 AM
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2. That happened in many many countries when the right wing took power.
It has happened so often that most leftists know they are targets.
I did not know about So. Korea however. Wow.
Victim by proxy...all the vicarious pseudo-suffering bravado, none of the real pain or conviction.
Cindie
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What? Castro and Che don't even get an honorable mention?
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Bastards! Who was President in 1950 ? I 'll bet it was a repuke!!
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Truman was a repukie?
Who knew....
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Read through DUmp theads and what to they always say about things they don`t like?
It should be banned with the force of government behind it.
Lurking idiots,you are the fascists,everything you wish for proves it.
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What? Castro and Che don't even get an honorable mention?
per capita they were the worst
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The top ten genocides of the 20th Century
1. Mao Ze-Dong (China, 1958-61 and 1966-69, Tibet 1949-50) 49-78,000,000
2. Jozef Stalin (USSR, 1932-39) 23,000,000 (the purges plus Ukraine's famine)
3. Adolf Hitler (Germany, 1939-1945) 12,000,000 (concentration camps and civilians WWII)
4. Hideki Tojo (Japan, 1941-44) 5,000,000 (civilians in WWII)
5. Ismail Enver (Turkey, 1915-20) 1,200,000 Armenians (1915) + 350,000 Greek Pontians and 480,000 Anatolian Greeks (1916-22) + 500,000 Assyrians (1915-20)
6. Pol Pot (Cambodia, 1975-79) 1,700,000
7. Kim Il Sung (North Korea, 1948-94) 1.6 million (purges and concentration camps)
8. Menghistu (Ethiopia, 1975-78) 1,500,000
9. Yakubu Gowon (Biafra, 1967-1970) 1,000,000
10. Leonid Brezhnev (Afghanistan, 1979-1982) 900,000
Can any DUchebag point out any rightwing dictators in the above list?
P.S. For the history challenged Dumbasses, National Socialist Party = NAZI.
Well gees, almost every genocidal dictator was leftist. Pol Pot has the highest percentage killed in a nation, Cambodia. They also end violently without any peaceful transition.
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The point is communists and their leftist lackeys should be hunted down and exterminated without mercy or apology.
Well, I'd offer the apology that it wasn't done sooner or with more violence.