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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on April 17, 2010, 12:27:55 PM
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The DUmp has been slim pickings the past few days. The really entertaining DUmmies have clammed up for some reason, so we have to rely on the nameless, faceless, anonymous DUmmies, and they're just too DUmb to produce much good material. Anyway, one of them tries spinning a bouncy tale. It's pretty lame, but beggars can't be choosers:
MorningGlow (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-17-10 11:21 AM
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The effect of politely countering a conservative talking point
No offense to any mechanics out there, but *******, I HATE spending time in the waiting room of my garage. Went there a few days ago for an oil change and to have my snow tires taken off. I couldn't drop off my Jeep; I had to wait. At one point I was the only person in the waiting room, and the guy manning the front desk decided to start up a conversation.
Unfortunately, his opening salvo was a conservative talking point. "Geez, so many people are losing their jobs. I just keep hearing about it from everyone. The level of unemployment is incredible! And they keep telling us it's getting better."
Me (mildly, with a polite smile): "It IS getting better."
Him: "Oh no it's not."
Me: "Actually, the unemployment numbers are going down overall." (I wasn't going to try to enlighten him with a bikini graph explanation.)
Honestly, the guy's face crumbled. He wanted someone to join him in the echo chamber, and there I was--the only person to talk to!--who didn't want to play! O the horror!
I actually felt sorry for him, so to make him feel better, I said, "Well, you know how all trends reach our area after the rest of the country--even fashion. Look at the housing crash--that never even hit us at all. So maybe you are hearing about people losing their jobs here, whereas the rest of the country is already on its way to recovery." (No, I don't really believe our area is about to experience a surge of unemployment.)
So what happened? Dude turned away and never said another word to me for the rest of the time I was there--two hours total!
Ahhhh they just can't handle it.
Oh, the best part? The guy was just helping out a friend while the regular front-desk person was on vacation. He's actually a local minister.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8165865
So DUmmy MorningGlow was the only person waiting, needed an oil change and snow tires taken off, and it took two hours! That would imply the Jiffy Lube guy was pissed off and decided to make him wait all afternoon. He needs to pay more attention to the details in his bouncies.
Time for some oneupmanship:
Walk away (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-17-10 12:02 PM
Response to Original message
1. That's nothing. The manager of the oil change place I used was a raving, Glen Beck Birther.
The works....the President is a secret Muslim and is trying to destroy the country, Sarah Palin is far more qualified to be the leader of our country. This idiot told everyone who came in. I do believe he lost many customers including me. And I called and reported him to the franchise as well. The day after Obama won he lowered the flag on the roof of the shop to half mast and kept them there. I didn't even bother to try to talk to him.
Oh, yeah? Well, that's nothing! Those exclamations are rarely followed by the truth.
MorningGlow (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-17-10 12:20 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. Jayzus
That's astounding. He SHOULD lose business.
G_j (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-17-10 12:26 PM
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5. reporting this type of thing to the Franchise is the right thing to do nt
Yeah, those corporate types at "the Franchise" are likely to be supporters of the Kenyan.
safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-17-10 12:48 PM
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6. Got the survey from the Marriott
I stayed in near Boston. Under comments I said I'll never stay in a room for over $100/night again that only has FOX and CNN and no MSNBC. Other than that, I gave them all 10s.
This is a camouflaged brag. Remember, at the DUmp, staying in a nice place like a Marriott is a once-in-a-lifetime sort of thing. DUmmy safeinOhio is sticking it to the DUmmies like Pam Dawson with her designer purse.
Oh, yeah? Well, that's nothing!:
louis-t (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-17-10 12:07 PM
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2. It is fun undoing the rhetoric, isn't it?
I had to sit through con-ed class for 6 hours with my broker and others constantly calling out talking points during the legal section of the class. When they got to "Yer gonna go to jail if you don't get health insurance" I said "that's not true". They all, in unison, said "It's in there!!11!!" I sent them the link to the mandate supplied by a friendly DUer with the paragraph that deals with penalties. I have not heard another word from these people about the subject. My next mission, should they decide to try another fox talking point will be "They lied about health insurance, what else are they lying to you about?"
MorningGlow (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-17-10 12:24 PM
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4. You know, it really is
I'm usually not a fast thinker when faced with teabagger rhetoric. I stumble over my words and I can't get them out quick enough, so I tend to just walk away from any frothing-at-the-mouth Faux fans. But I was held captive, so I gave it a shot. It was easier than I thought.
I missed the link to the penalties section--can you post it here? I have a brainwashed aunt who'll more likely than not bring it up in front of me within the next week or so. She follows the talking points pretty closely.
DUmmy uppityperson, casting doubt on the muslim's miraculous recovery, is risking granite:
uppityperson (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-17-10 12:56 PM
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7. Actually, I agree with his point. I don't believe it's getting better yet either.
"Geez, so many people are losing their jobs. I just keep hearing about it from everyone. The level of unemployment is incredible! And they keep telling us it's getting better."
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Changing the world, one quick lube place at a time :whatever:
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That has to be the slowest Jiffy Lube in the world. Two hours for an oil and tire change, and not another customer in the place? The economy is really booming in that town.
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He pays someone to change his tires?
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He pays someone to change his tires?
It's pretty common in New England if you only own one set of rims, but two sets of tires for the warm and cold seasons.
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A-yup. But the thing is, most people pulled their snow tires off a month ago, with the possible exception of the far-far-far-north country. This despite the late snowfall yesterday that put up to six inches of new stuff up in the 'Notches.
And in most of the Jiffy Lube's I've been in, the only time someone is in the little cubicle is when they take payment for services rendered. You got time to lean, you got time to clean.
Finally, dear DUmmies--if it's "getting better", how come YOU don't have a job yet?
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Like going to Jackson-Hewitt on April 15th. They are so prompt about things.
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I wouldn't call a .5% decrease in unemployment as "Things are getting better because they are not. After the census people get laid off that figure will go up and when cap and tax and the Healthcare really do kick in you can bet that the unemployment rate will climb faster then an F-22 out of Langley AFB.
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Walk away (1000+ posts) Sat Apr-17-10 12:02 PM
Response to Original message
1. That's nothing. The manager of the oil change place I used was a raving, Glen Beck Birther.
The works....the President is a secret Muslim and is trying to destroy the country, Sarah Palin is far more qualified to be the leader of our country. This idiot told everyone who came in. I do believe he lost many customers including me. And I called and reported him to the franchise as well. The day after Obama won he lowered the flag on the roof of the shop to half mast and kept them there. I didn't even bother to try to talk to him.
That's nothing. The oil change place I went to had a huge Confederate battle flag flying from their pole. Inside was an Obama mannequin hanged in effigy and the staff were all wearing oil-stained Klan robes with Tea Party buttons. The TV was on Fox News and the channel change buttons had been gouged out. There was a copy of Mein Kampf in the magazine rack. A guy in a Prius pulled up and they chased him away with a shotgun. The service dude asked me if I wanted to donate my used oil to be poured on baby seals and cormorants. I had to sign an affidavit certifying myself as 100% pure Aryan and promising never to vote Democratic to get my PCV valve changed. While I was waiting, the Primitive Baptist preacher they had on staff came in the waiting room and delivered a sermon on the evils of abortion. When they were done, they would only accept cash because they enjoyed reading "In God We Trust" on the bills. When I got the the service record/receipt it had an application for membership in the John Birch Society folded up with it.
Oh, and as I was pulling out I spotted TWO cops crouched down behind their hedges.
Helluva day.
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That's nothing. The oil change place I went to had a huge Confederate battle flag flying from their pole. Inside was an Obama mannequin hanged in effigy and the staff were all wearing oil-stained Klan robes with Tea Party buttons. The TV was on Fox News and the channel change buttons had been gouged out. There was a copy of Mein Kampf in the magazine rack. A guy in a Prius pulled up and they chased him away with a shotgun. The service dude asked me if I wanted to donate my used oil to be poured on baby seals and cormorants. I had to sign an affidavit certifying myself as 100% pure Aryan and promising never to vote Democratic to get my PCV valve changed. While I was waiting, the Primitive Baptist preacher they had on staff came in the waiting room and delivered a sermon on the evils of abortion. When they were done, they would only accept cash because they enjoyed reading "In God We Trust" on the bills. When I got the the service record/receipt it had an application for membership in the John Birch Society folded up with it.
Oh, and as I was pulling out I spotted TWO cops crouched down behind their hedges.
Helluva day.
TEN BONGS!
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TEN BONGS!
Dummies and jiffy lube.....never mind, I have to go to dinner. I agree it deserves high praise if for no other reason than for using "cormorants". Put a loose noose around their neck an you can use 'em for fishin !!~ :popcorn:
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TEN BONGS!
Ten bongs for dandi, and zero for the DUmmie bouncy. In fact, let's be generous and give negative bongs. That had more bounce to it than the 2 basketball games I've watched today.
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Unemployment went up again, to the highest level since 1978, in the great liberal paradise of California :whatever:
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Calipornia
Where a kid with a quack can smoke pot
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Hey moron the statement about so many people losing jobs and things not getting better is not a talking point it is a fact. Despite Obama's laser like focus on job creation very few jobs are being created.
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At the DUmp, there are two versions of everything.
#1: the bouncy version:
So what happened? Dude turned away and never said another word to me for the rest of the time I was there--two hours total!
And #2: what actually happened:
[youtube=425,350]mZ9XNhPc8HM[/youtube]
:-)
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That's nothing. The oil change place I went to had a huge Confederate battle flag flying from their pole. Inside was an Obama mannequin hanged in effigy and the staff were all wearing oil-stained Klan robes with Tea Party buttons. The TV was on Fox News and the channel change buttons had been gouged out. There was a copy of Mein Kampf in the magazine rack. A guy in a Prius pulled up and they chased him away with a shotgun. The service dude asked me if I wanted to donate my used oil to be poured on baby seals and cormorants. I had to sign an affidavit certifying myself as 100% pure Aryan and promising never to vote Democratic to get my PCV valve changed. While I was waiting, the Primitive Baptist preacher they had on staff came in the waiting room and delivered a sermon on the evils of abortion. When they were done, they would only accept cash because they enjoyed reading "In God We Trust" on the bills. When I got the the service record/receipt it had an application for membership in the John Birch Society folded up with it.
Oh, and as I was pulling out I spotted TWO cops crouched down behind their hedges.
Helluva day.
Official Post of the Month. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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At the DUmp, there are two versions of everything.
And #2: what actually happened:
[youtube=425,350]mZ9XNhPc8HM[/youtube]
:-)
DUmmie drivers ed....
Passing grade.... :II:
Once he gets thru "Bumper Sticker 101", he'll be good to go....
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Official Post of the Month. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
I second the nomination! :-)
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Great bouncy, dandi...
DUmmy morningglow is so proud of his debating skills, and "undoing the rhetoric....it was easy and fun."
JL Guy: Unemployment is bad.
MG: No it's not.
JL Guy: Yes it is.
MG NO it's NOT!!!!
Morningglow to himself: I pwned him, didn't I?
Lame.
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You got time to lean, you got time to clean.
I never heard that little diddy before, but I love it! :rotf:
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You never heard that before? Then, you've never had a certain part-time job in high school.
Enjoyed reading dandi's bouncy for the 2nd time.
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You never heard that before? Then, you've never had a certain part-time job in high school.
Enjoyed reading dandi's bouncy for the 2nd time.
Hold the pickle. I loved the video. My one time ever to a J-lube resulted in a cross threaded drain plug and a sales pitch for rotating the air in my tires or some other such nonsense. I have never been back.
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Hold the pickle. I loved the video. My one time ever to a J-lube resulted in a cross threaded drain plug and a sales pitch for rotating the air in my tires or some other such nonsense. I have never been back.
I've never had a problem with that. As long as I keep up on what's needed (and what's not), I don't have a problem with them per se. No, I don't do the flushes, etc. Major milestone maintenance (30K, 60K, etc.,) I let the dealer take care of. If I don't feel like doing the oil change myself, I take it to them...they do it for about what it costs me, minus my skinned/burned knuckles and having to get rid of the waste oil.
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I've never had a problem with that. As long as I keep up on what's needed (and what's not), I don't have a problem with them per se. No, I don't do the flushes, etc. Major milestone maintenance (30K, 60K, etc.,) I let the dealer take care of. If I don't feel like doing the oil change myself, I take it to them...they do it for about what it costs me, minus my skinned/burned knuckles and having to get rid of the waste oil.
I just use the nearby storm drain to get rid of the old oil. :uhsure:
(I take it to work and pour it into one of their waste oil barrels that they take to a recycling center.)
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WalMart also takes the used oil. I also need to change the plugs pretty soon. I'm up to almost 50K miles.
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I just use the nearby storm drain to get rid of the old oil.
I used to do that, but I started to worry about Mother Gaia, and went green.
Now I put it in an empty milk jug and bury it in my trash.
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MorningGlow
Him: "Geez, so many people are losing their jobs. I just keep hearing about it from everyone. The level of unemployment is incredible! And they keep telling us it's getting better."
Me (mildly, with a polite smile): "It IS getting better."
Him: "Oh no it's not."
Me: "Actually, the unemployment numbers are going down overall."
THE EMPLOYMENT SITUATION -- MARCH 2010
.... and the unemployment rate held at 9.7 percent, the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Employment in federal government also rose (Nonfarm payroll employment increased by 162,000 in March), reflecting the hiring of temporary workers for Census 2010.
In March, the number of unemployed persons was little changed at 15.0 million, and the unemployment rate remained at 9.7 percent.
The number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks and over) in-creased by 414,000 over the month to 6.5 million.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.htm
IF this happened, the guy figured out you were a liar and a kook and decided it's best to let you dwell in your own little world.
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You never heard that before?
Nope, but I'm going to use it on a DUmmy who does some work for us and she does a whole lotta leaning and yakking. Good thing she's not paid by the hour, but still...all that yakking drives me up the wall. :fuelfire:
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Hold the pickle. I loved the video. My one time ever to a J-lube resulted in a cross threaded drain plug and a sales pitch for rotating the air in my tires or some other such nonsense. I have never been back.
My step-son's girlfriend took her VW Beetle to Wallyworld for an oil change....
It cost Wally $685 for a new oil pan, because the lameass "mechanic" used an impact gun to re-install the drain plug, and stripped out the oil pan....
The ONLY time any of my vehicles have ever even been to a dealer is for warranty work or recalls....