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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Mike220 on April 16, 2010, 03:07:34 PM
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So DUmmy Some Number asks his/her/its kid a question and the kid invokes the Fifth Amendment right to avoid self-incrimination. So DUmmy Some Numbers immediately runs to the DUmp and asks if kids have that right against their parents.
Seriously. :mental: :lmao:
I Plead the Fifth! (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9334238)
Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-16-10 02:36 PM
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So the other day, my teen son invokes the 5th...
and I didn't know how to answer him, exactly. He claimed that he has the Constitutional right to not incriminate himself, when I was asking him about something (can't even recall what it was).
On the one hand I was really proud of him, but on the other, I was really frustrated!
Does a 16-year-old have the right to not answer a parent's question?
If I had done that, I would have ended up getting my ass grounded, and stayed that way until I answered. Be a parent, DUmbass.
Let's see what, if any, hilarity follows, shall we?
monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-16-10 02:39 PM
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1. HA! I raised two of these little darlings and I believe the younger one
Edited on Fri Apr-16-10 02:40 PM by monmouth
pulled that on me. I believe my retort was a grounding for a while. It never came up again...LOL. The Fifth Amendment was not recognized in MY house, of which he was a non-paying member, i.e. my wishes come first and the 5th had no bearing. The promise of a swift kick to the a$$ helped to make my point.
The Mouth Primitive gives the same advice I just did. Even a DUmmy can be right once a century.
Most of the other primitives have similar stories, either doing that to their spawn, or having it done to themselves by the RW rethuglican parents.
ORDagnabbit (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-16-10 02:43 PM
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5. Does a 16-year-old have the right to not answer a parent's question?
not to be rude but if you have to ask that you might want to think about parenting classes.
Oh snap! This definitely PoNP pulls out the cluebat and proceeds to hit the truthball out of the park.
paulsby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-16-10 03:06 PM
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20. this is the 2nd time i've seen this
the 5th amendment applies in AND outside the courtroom
the issue is questioning by a govt. agent, NOT whether or not it's in the court.
there are exceptions. like you don't have the right not to give your name if pulled over by police.
but you have the right not to give testimony, or answer questions about what you are doing, etc
Of course, a few primitives go into a deep discussion about the applicability of the Fifth Amendment. You know, as deep as a parking lot puddle can be.
Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-16-10 02:44 PM
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7. Tell him that under your roof is a benevolent dictatorship...
that always shuts my teenagers up.
Not just under its roof anymore...
Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-16-10 02:48 PM
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13. That's what I thought
But he tried to appeal to my liberal sensibilities
That was his first problem. A DUmmy's sensibilities are like their intelligence: non-existent.
nykym (668 posts) Fri Apr-16-10 02:45 PM
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10. When confronted with an
my liberal daughters (we taught her well) rights and such, I will usually after some time tell her that this is NOT A DEMOCRACY! End of discussion.
Sure you did. And what is up with the first part of that message? "When confronted with an my liberal daughters..." How and what did you teach her? Hope it wasn't English and grammar.
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do we really want to know what she taught her daughters? I don't. I bet they might be found by googling "teen, preggo, porn" though.
Your house is not a Courtroom DUnumbers!
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If I had done that, I would have ended up getting my ass grounded, and stayed that way until I answered. Be a parent, DUmbass.
If I had tried to pull that, I would be looking on the floor for my teeth.
Then my next worry would be what would happen when I Dad came home. :o
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If I had tried to pull that, I would be looking on the floor for my teeth.
Then my next worry would be what would happen when I Dad came home. :o
Depends on the age. When I was 16 like DUmmy Some Numbers kid, I would be grounded. If I was younger than my teen years, I got my ass whooped. And I hoped my dad was in a good mood and didn't use the belt.
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This from the same people that cheer for young girls to get abortions behind their parent's back?
I'm SHOCKED, shocked I tell you!
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Depends on the age. When I was 16 like DUmmy Some Numbers kid, I would be grounded. If I was younger than my teen years, I got my ass whooped. And I hoped my dad was in a good mood and didn't use the belt.
Yup. My mom had one of those nifty 70's belts, with holes punched down the whole length of it. Not only was it great for aeronautical design purposes, but it left little polka dots on my rump.
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Problem is the libs have made it where if you discipline your child, they know they can run to social services and have you placed in uncomfortable circumstances. Sounds like DUmmy Some Number is reaping what they sowed.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-16-10 02:36 PM
Original message
So the other day, my teen son invokes the 5th...
and I didn't know how to answer him, exactly. He claimed that he has the Constitutional right to not incriminate himself, when I was asking him about something (can't even recall what it was).
On the one hand I was really proud of him, but on the other, I was really frustrated!
Does a 16-year-old have the right to not answer a parent's question?
:thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright: :thatsright:
There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of men for this level of stupidity. Once you've run away from the kid after he's said that, you've lost. DU can't help you. Please turn in your parenting license because you FAIL.
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Daddy's belt, the toe of his shoe or the back of his hand revoked all my constitutional rights........until I was 21......and after that if it had been deemed necessary.
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5'll get you 20 that junior is a Wigger.
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5'll get you 20 that junior is a Wigger.
That is just racist........but oh so true........ :rotf:
I'd kick his ass until his butt swelled up so bad he couldn't pull his pants down for a year or two.
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Dad left the disciplining up to my mom. He worked and she was a stay at home mom. She was smart and taught us early on that we had very distinct boundaries in which to operate. They were pretty generous boundaries, but if we decided to cross one, we'd pay. No drama involved. It was a simple matter of us making the decision to break a rule, knowing full well what the consequences would be. She had a belt but didn't have to use it much. We all knew the look she'd give us if we got out of line, and would shape up asap. Sweetest mom in the world and very fair - she kept the boundaries consistent so we didn't have to worry about the goalposts moving. It was easy growing up in a house like that. Too bad the DUmmy didn't start early enough on training his child. At least it looks that way from this stupid question.
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It would all depend who I had pulled this with. If it was Dad, he'd kick my ass. If it was Mom, she'd smack me around a bit . . . then Dad would come home and kick my ass.
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I only took two beatings from my father. Both were not for doing whatever bad thing I did, but were for lying to him about it. One of my older brothers was a pathological liar, so he took quite a few more beatings than me. I learned from his experience that lying was the worse offense. We never thought to try to invoke the 5th, so I'm not sure how that would have gone over. But probably not very well.
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This DUmp thread may be a clue to why so many DUmmies whine about having sons in prison.
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Depends on the age. When I was 16 like DUmmy Some Numbers kid, I would be grounded. If I was younger than my teen years, I got my ass whooped. And I hoped my dad was in a good mood and didn't use the belt.
Belt! I wished!
Dad had a razor strap (a piece of leather about 3 feet long, 4 inches wide, a quarter inch thick. It was used to hone an edge on a straight razor. Used to see them hanging on barber chairs years ago, but I digress....).
It didn't help any that Dad was built like an NFL linebacker, and a farmer to boot.... :(
My oldest son, now 28, told me one time that to this day, when he hears my belt buckle rattle, he gets a chill running down his back. He has learned well.... :bow:
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(http://www.polkaudio.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=13220&d=1136533928)
I think I might get this one.
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Belt! I wished!
Dad had a razor strap (a piece of leather about 3 feet long, 4 inches wide, a quarter inch thick. It was used to hone an edge on a straight razor. Used to see them hanging on barber chairs years ago, but I digress....).
It didn't help any that Dad was built like an NFL linebacker, and a farmer to boot.... :(
My oldest son, now 28, told me one time that to this day, when he hears my belt buckle rattle, he gets a chill running down his back. He has learned well.... :bow:
LOL!! Granddad was the one that had the leather strop. He knew how to use it on young behinds too. As for belts... it took me until my late 20's before I got over looking around in fear whenever I heard a belt buckle rattle. What can I say... I had an illustrious youth. My dad actually made the paddles for my grade school teachers. Thick Plexiglass with holes drilled into them. Those things hurt worse than any belt. When I graduated high school my 5th grade teacher gave me her paddle as a graduation present. :-)
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I only remember getting like 2 spankings in my life. My parents just took everything that I loved away till I improved on what ever they deemed I earned it back
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I used to get my ass tore up with a wooden cooking spoon, later advancing into the 60's with a nice heavy non-breakable nylon spoon.
Then Dad would come home and after the story was exaggerated up a few notches another ass kicking would be administered.
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In the days of sanity, where parents had control...........Ya got swatted at school, first by the teacher then by the vice principal, slapped by mom when ya got home, and got your ass royally kicked by the 'ol man when he showed up after work! And that was for just not having your homework done!
Grounded! Yeah right! In my day grounded meant where you ended up, looking for the truck that just ran your ass over! Grounded?
ETA:
Nana = razor strap
Grampa = woodshed......... then the razor strap
Mom = open hand slap to the face, especially in later years
Dad = 3" wide belt, fist, boots, whatever was layin' within' grasp. Basically, whatever he needed to get the appropriate message across. Rarely did you need to have it explained again!
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Wooden Spoon, Slippers, and Belt. The spoon was for spontaneous events.
No one mentions soap? To this day I loathe the smell of Ivory. When I smell it, I can taste it on my teeth. Ew.
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No one mentions soap? To this day I loathe the smell of Ivory. When I smell it, I can taste it on my teeth. Ew.
Not one of my favorite cleaning products, either--though my parents used Lava Soap.
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Not one of my favorite cleaning products, either--though my parents used Lava Soap.
That stuff is very gritty, definitely not a soap for little girls with delicate hands
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That stuff is very gritty, definitely not a soap for little girls with delicate hands
Which is why the only way my daughter will see it will be if she says something bad, that's worthy of washing her mouth out with it.
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Not one of my favorite cleaning products, either--though my parents used Lava Soap.
...Over the years I got to be quite a connoisseur of soap. My personal preference was for Lux, but I found Palmolive had a nice, piquant after-dinner flavor - heady, but with just a touch of mellow smoothness. Life Buoy, on the other hand...
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...Over the years I got to be quite a connoisseur of soap. My personal preference was for Lux, but I found Palmolive had a nice, piquant after-dinner flavor - heady, but with just a touch of mellow smoothness. Life Buoy, on the other hand...
I just love that movie. :cheersmate:
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I just love that movie. :cheersmate:
Pray, tell--which movie?
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Pray, tell--which movie?
A Christmas Story.
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A Christmas Story.
Now that you say it, I seem to remember that line being said. My brother, two sisters, and father all love that movie.
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Should have just declared the little bastid an enemy combatant and waterboarded the little shit.
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In the days of sanity, where parents had control...........Ya got swatted at school, first by the teacher then by the vice principal, slapped by mom when ya got home, and got your ass royally kicked by the 'ol man when he showed up after work! And that was for just not having your homework done!
Grounded! Yeah right! In my day grounded meant where you ended up, looking for the truck that just ran your ass over! Grounded?
ETA:
Nana = razor strap
Grampa = woodshed......... then the razor strap
Mom = open hand slap to the face, especially in later years
Dad = 3" wide belt, fist, boots, whatever was layin' within' grasp. Basically, whatever he needed to get the appropriate message across. Rarely did you need to have it explained again!
Sounds like you were raised right, Al....
Just like me.... :-)
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...Over the years I got to be quite a connoisseur of soap. My personal preference was for Lux, but I found Palmolive had a nice, piquant after-dinner flavor - heady, but with just a touch of mellow smoothness. Life Buoy, on the other hand...
Now that's funny!!!!!!!!!! Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of the best scenes!!
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Sounds like you were raised right, Al....
Just like me.... :-)
Yeah, well, I did kinda let up on my own. Sometimes I wonder if I shouldn't have. Lol!
According to them, I was a real "HardCase"! If they only knew!