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Current Events => General Discussion => Topic started by: JohnnyReb on April 10, 2010, 03:35:45 PM
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Boy! That picture of Obama imitating Mussolini may be right on. Long read but it sounds so much like Obama and what he has done and then the hatred for christians/business/rich/etc.. ....and in the end, it was the Italian commies that killed him. :rotf: Obama doesn't have to worry about the Tea Party. It's his own kind that's going to get him in the end.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini
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Boy! That picture of Obama imitating Mussolini may be right on. Long read but it sounds so much like Obama and what he has done and then the hatred for christians/business/rich/etc.. ....and in the end, it was the Italian commies that killed him. :rotf: Obama doesn't have to worry about the Tea Party. It's his own kind that's going to get him in the end.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini
While I agree with your assessment over who il Douche has to watch his back for, the only thing I'll add to that is look at the political trainwreck Benito Mussolini left in the wake of his "ouster", and tell me you don't see the same sort of carnage in store for a "post-MessiahnFuhrer" America...
Mmm-hmmmm, I thought so... :cheers1:
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Check the jutting jaw and pomposity of il Duce's publicity appearances. Obama has far more in common with him than with Hitler...to include the 'Competence' part.
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Obama also reminds me of Juan Peron.
Wikipedia-Juan Peron (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Perón)
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Hat Tip to The People's Cube....
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/ColonialMarine/Obamarama/Mussolini/2851303515_3809f0566b.jpg)
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Hat Tip to The People's Cube....
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/ColonialMarine/Obamarama/Mussolini/2851303515_3809f0566b.jpg)
:rotf: Very very true
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I would have to agree with (sigh) Ron Paul, he is a Corporatist thus much more aligned with Benito than Dolf, much to the chagrin of most primitives. ( who love Marxist / Maoist socialists over Fascists but side with Fascists in a pinch )
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Zeit--add Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism" to your required reading list.
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Mussolini started out as a hard-core Socialist (Thug/"Community Organizer" variety), he really had much more in the way of true Socialist cred than Hitler ever did.
At some point the idea that he personally was the smartest guy in Italy to turn it into his dream Socialist state popped into his egotistical little brain, and that's when he became a Fascist.
Hitler was actually his imitator in his early rise to power, and a lot of the unsound, cockeyed Fuehrerprinzip Nazi ideology comes from Hitler's interpretation of Mussolini's success setting up a goal for Hitler himself, not as something that sprang full-blown from German experience or his own warped imagination in isolation.
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I originally refered to obama on this site as "Il Duce" when he first took office since I found his political ideology to be parallel to that of Mussolini, but I changed to calling him Dear Leader. I may end up switching back.
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Zeit--add Jonah Goldberg's "Liberal Fascism" to your required reading list.
I will have to add it to the list. Just finished "Freakonomics" while walking the beagle,( MP3 books are great for walking the dog ) will have to see if it is in audio yet, then the PPL (yeah right :lmao:) then the used book store in NHampton.
Liberals love the concept but hate the word, they project the word onto their opponents. Kind of a love the sinner hate the sin situation, the cannot admit to themselves that their beloved 'isms' have killed countless millions.
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:rotf: :rotf:
Obama has all ways reminded me of a brown Don Knotts. Honest to gosh, like a case of mistaken identity he was swept up by mistake and found he was now the President.
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I would have to agree with (sigh) Ron Paul, he is a Corporatist thus much more aligned with Benito than Dolf, much to the chagrin of most primitives. ( who love Marxist / Maoist socialists over Fascists but side with Fascists in a pinch )
Oh dear, this is even worse than agreeing with Ron Paul,
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8142735&mesg_id=8143551
dmosh42 (924 posts) Tue Apr-13-10 02:51 PM
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Poll question: Do DU members view Obama as a corporation's or people's president?
Advertisements [?]Poll result (124 votes)
Corporation type (80 votes, 65%) Vote
people type (44 votes, 35%) Vote
Of course many primitives only think they know what corporatism is:
Progressive corporatism
From the 1850s onward progressive corporatism rose in response to classical liberalism and Marxism.[14] These corporatists supported providing group rights to members of the middle classes and working classes in order to secure class harmony.[14] This was in opposition to the Marxist conception of class conflict.[14] By the 1870s and 1880s, corporatism experienced a revival in Europe with the creation of workers' unions that were committed to class harmony and negotiations with employers.[14]
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Fascist corporatism
In Italy from 1922 until 1943, corporatism became influential amongst Italian nationalists led by Benito Mussolini. The Charter of Carnaro gained much popularity as the prototype of a 'corporative state', having displayed much within its tenets as a guild system combining the concepts of autonomy & authority in a special synthesis. This appealed to Hegelian thinkers who were looking for a new alternative to popular socialist & syndicalist stances which was also a progressive system of governing labor and still a new way of relating to political governance as a whole. Alfredo Rocco spoke of a corporative state and declared corporatist ideology in detail. Rocco would go on to become a member of the Italian Fascist regime Fascismo.[38] Italian Fascism involved a corporatist political system in which economy was collectively managed by employers, workers and state officials by formal mechanisms at national level.[39] This non-elected form of state officializing of every interest into the state was professed to better circumvent the marginalization of singular interests (as would allegedly happen by the unilateral end condition inherent in the democratic voting process). Corporatism would instead better recognize or 'incorporate' every divergent interest as it stands alone into the state organically, according to its supporters, thus being the inspiration behind their use of the term totalitarian, perceivable to them as not meaning a coercive system but described distinctly as without coercion in the 1932 Doctrine of Fascism....
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Neo-corporatism
In the post-World War II reconstruction period in Europe, corporatism was favored by Christian democrats, national conservatives, and social democrats in opposition to liberal capitalism.[28] This type of corporatism faded but revived again in the 1960s and 1970s as "neo-corporatism" in response to the new economic threat of stagflation.[28] Neo-corporatism favored economic tripartism which involved strong and centralized labor unions, employers' unions, and governments that cooperated as "social partners" to negotiate and manage a national economy.[28]
Attempts in the United States to create neo-corporatist capital-labor arrangements were unsuccessfully pushed for by Gary Hart and Michael Dukakis in the 1980s.[44] Robert Reich as U.S. Secretary of Labor during the Clinton administration promoted neo-corporatist reforms.[44]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism
And Obie is a brown Barney Fife? Vesta. Ya crackin' me up. :tongue: Obie, The Incredible Mr Limet.