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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on April 09, 2010, 10:11:54 PM
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This from DUmmy Taverner, who has never worked a day in his life:
Taverner (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-09-10 07:44 PM
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To be a techie today - means suicide
Again, any profession does at this point....
Welcome to the dark ages of the USA....
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9326795
And does anyone believe this DUmmy is a lawyer? :
Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-09-10 09:47 PM
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1. Our country has thrown away millions of talented and educated people.
All in the name of saving money and destroying our R&D base, our manufacturing base, our artistic base, you name it.
(B.A. in biology and J.D. (law degree) here, never got a job with either one of them).
I wish we had a huge New Deal jobs program and that it included ARTISTS OF ALL KINDS.
I would love to be painting murals.
Well, I guess we should look at the bright side. We did at least throw away DUmmy Manifestor_of_Light.
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Career development??
You mean it involves work?
Why can't it just be handed to me fully developed?
//DUmode
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-09-10 09:47 PM
Response to Original message
1. Our country has thrown away millions of talented and educated people.
All in the name of saving money and destroying our R&D base, our manufacturing base, our artistic base, you name it.
(B.A. in biology and J.D. (law degree) here, never got a job with either one of them).
I wish we had a huge New Deal jobs program and that it included ARTISTS OF ALL KINDS.
I would love to be painting murals.
My husband is an Industrial Designer and has worked for the same company for 16 years, the other guys who work for him (all industrial designers) have all been with the company for years (a couple of them have been there two years less than my husband). They did let go all of the graphic designers (except for one) when they moved everyone to California so I'm not saying that if you go into a field that a business would actually hire that you can't be laid off in this economy. Pre-recession my husband has fired a couple industrial designers & graphic designers but it was for their performance not the economy or the company shipping their jobs overseas.
My husband's cousin paints murals as well as other faux painting treatments in people's homes and businesses. He also flips houses on the side (his wife is a real estate agent). He is still doing just fine even in this economy, I know that it isn't as good as it was pre-recession but he has work and is doing fine.
I guess it is what kind of "artist" you are. There has to be a market for your talent, people like the poster above think that their "art" should be marketable even if the public doesn't want it. If you didn't have a job before the economy went to shit you aren't going to have one when it recovers and sure as heck aren't going to have one now.
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-09-10 09:47 PM
Response to Original message
1. Our country has thrown away millions of talented and educated people.
All in the name of saving money and destroying our R&D base, our manufacturing base, our artistic base, you name it.
(B.A. in biology and J.D. (law degree) here, never got a job with either one of them).
I wish we had a huge New Deal jobs program and that it included ARTISTS OF ALL KINDS.
I would love to be painting murals.
How many have you allowed to be aborted? LIBERAL pricks!
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We have an artistic base? :whatever:
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A Lawyer with a background in Biology....I guess being able to sue amoeba's is a handy skill to have at the DUmp....
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Fri Apr-09-10 09:47 PM
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1. Our country has thrown away millions of talented and educated people.
All in the name of saving money and destroying our R&D base
Unions are NOT interested in nor support R&D you stupid cocksucker!
Union socialist "Left-Fist" cocksuckers are only interested in the small, thoughtless, never-changing daily routine of doing the same brainless "inside the box" procedure per contractual agreements. If you want a methodology change it requires a complete bargaining unit overhaul, months of non-productive meetings, pay raises, additional supervisors, years of NEW training schools, 12 "safety" meetings a day for a year, new uniforms and gloves, new tool-sets, six more layers of middle-supervisors, and a 24, 4" binder set of instruction manuals distributed to twenty two thousand union employees that can barely read past the six grade level.
And, that is just the instructional/training shit to get those union slugs into their new uniforms.
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We have an artistic base? :whatever:
Haven't you been reading the DUmp's poet? She's painting pictures with words.
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I guess it is what kind of "artist" you are. There has to be a market for your talent, people like the poster above think that their "art" should be marketable even if the public doesn't want it. If you didn't have a job before the economy went to shit you aren't going to have one when it recovers and sure as heck aren't going to have one now.
This was maybe 20 years ago or something--I was young when I read it--but anyway, the Netherlands has self-proclaimed "artists" on its public dole.
Lots and lots of Dutch artistes, gnawing away at the vitals of their economy.
The wooden-shoed artists were (or perhaps still are) obligated to turn over to the government pieces of their "artwork," ostensibly to be sold, so that the burghers could recover some of the money they spent (spend) on supporting these ostensible Rembrandts.
For years, decades probably, the "art" never sold, and was causing a problem with warehousing and storage. And so the Dutch decided to destroy them, so as to save the trouble and expense of having them around.
Great was the uproar among the beret-wearing Hollandaise.
I don't recall if such "artwork" was finally destroyed, or kept, but for the sake of posterity, I surely hope it was the former.
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This was maybe 20 years ago or something--I was young when I read it--but anyway, the Netherlands has self-proclaimed "artists" on its public dole.
Lots and lots of Dutch artistes, gnawing away at the vitals of their economy.
And that's exactly what the DUmp wants. Something for nothing. To quote Mark Knopfler, "Money for nothing and their chicks for free."
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Haven't you been reading the DUmp's poet? She's painting pictures with words.
She's painting pictures with something all right. :-)
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This was maybe 20 years ago or something--I was young when I read it--but anyway, the Netherlands has self-proclaimed "artists" on its public dole.
Lots and lots of Dutch artistes, gnawing away at the vitals of their economy.
During the Depression, that was part of Roosevelt's Works Projects Administration. The WPA gave jobs to "artists" of all kinds. Most obvious are the gigantic murals they painted in public buildings like railroad stations, city halls, and federal buildings, many of which still exist. I don't know how they were received at the time, but today they look Stalinist, which, I guess, is appropriate for the New Deal.
Even today, whenever a new federal facility is designed, I believe the law still requires that a certain percentage of the project cost go to commissioning artwork for decoration. There isn't much difference between that and the public dole. Then of course we still have that boondoggle of the National Endowment for the Arts. Through NEA last year, you and I paid over $150 million to a handful of drug addicts who can't otherwise make a living.
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We have an artistic base? :whatever:
don't you remember when the first mission landed on the moon... they said "Artistic Base here, the Eagle has pooped"
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I was thinking maybe they're 'artistic' like Dustin Hoffman in Rain Man.
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My husband is an Industrial Designer and has worked for the same company for 16 years, the other guys who work for him (all industrial designers) have all been with the company for years (a couple of them have been there two years less than my husband). They did let go all of the graphic designers (except for one) when they moved everyone to California so I'm not saying that if you go into a field that a business would actually hire that you can't be laid off in this economy. Pre-recession my husband has fired a couple industrial designers & graphic designers but it was for their performance not the economy or the company shipping their jobs overseas.
My husband's cousin paints murals as well as other faux painting treatments in people's homes and businesses. He also flips houses on the side (his wife is a real estate agent). He is still doing just fine even in this economy, I know that it isn't as good as it was pre-recession but he has work and is doing fine.
I guess it is what kind of "artist" you are. There has to be a market for your talent, people like the poster above think that their "art" should be marketable even if the public doesn't want it. If you didn't have a job before the economy went to shit you aren't going to have one when it recovers and sure as heck aren't going to have one now.
H^5! Beg!
Isn't it amazing how SOme people think their fantasy should produce wealth, no matter what the circumstance!
As most here know I worked myself into the ground in construction. I enjoyed the hell out of it! I had to come to the realization what I was doing was for a much younger man. Growing old physically is a real bitch in some occupations. The days of a Foreman walking around barking orders to a crew have long gone. Everyone wears toolbags and contributes or you're down the road.
I adapted my skills to other forms of employment and make damn near the same money I did pushin' crews for a general contractor. I found my knowledge in how things are done physically to be of the utmost value to those that do not.
I've also found in this trashed out economy of the "Bummer", many people can no longer afford to hire a union employee or a contractor, to install the basics in their homes. DIY is the name of the game. Home Depot is down about 9% from last year, yet is still hiring part timers. I'm afraid that is going to slow down in the near future as prices are quickly on the rise. Even DIYers will draw the line somewhere. And you can forget about new housing for the foreseeable future!
For a quick example, 1/2" OSB board that sold for $6 2 weeks ago, is now $10.50. The reason for the spike is manufacturers cut back production right before Haiti and Chile tried to crumble into little pieces. What little we manufacture in this country now is basically down to bare minimum when it comes to stock.
Everyone has yet to see what our future tax base is going to be and don't dare accumulate assets that they may have to pay exorbitant tax on. Especially if it's just sitting on the shelves. Hell we trade between stores rather than order new, in order to keep our inventory at a minimum.
I sincerely hope we can outlast the "Big O" and his socialistic minions long enough to undo the damage! If not this country will wish for things to be as easy as the Great Depression. We have how many more mouths to feed now?