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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: ScubaGuy on March 16, 2008, 02:07:27 PM
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To see the DUmmies at the peak of stupidity you need to read any thread that involves economics.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-16-08 12:25 PM
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Your Ideas, Please , DU....What Can Be Done (Right Now) To Save Our Economy?
Any thoughts?
ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-16-08 12:33 PM
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7. This will sound absurd, but honestly; limit the importation of plastic to half the current level
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 12:34 PM by ThomWV
Plastic in any form, just limit its importation in total tons to some limited amount, roughly half of what it currently is. No particular product, not from any particular country, no particular type, just plastic.
Yes that does sound absurd.
ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-16-08 12:40 PM
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22. Seriously.
Think about the new demand for domestic manufacturing that would be created overnight. Think about all the oil that is used to make all that plastic - just reducing its demand would have a major and beneficial effect on the economy, and it too would be almost immediate.
Huh? What am I missing here?
AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-16-08 12:53 PM
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29. An excellent point. Is this a common school of thought , or your own idea?
ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-16-08 02:22 PM
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58. Just one rambling thought from a babbling idiot.
Well he has the idiot part correct.
The River (846 posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-16-08 12:35 PM
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11. Freeze Energy Prices
if the ppb rises let the oil companies eat it.
Yeah how well did that work for Jimmah? I'm sure the oils companies will just say so what it we loose $1/Gallon sold. We'll make it up in volume.
Peake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-16-08 12:49 PM
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27. Tax the rich and not the poor, no more money to Iraq profiteers, start social programs Updated at 11:05 AM
that will hire vets and the poor to rebuild communities and community services. Rebuild public service centers in government. Turn the military budget and resources/personnel to human interest services, or cut it severely if it cannot be retooled.
Yes let's tax ourselves into prosperity.
Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-16-08 01:46 PM
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47. Oh, that's easy!
End the Iraq War. $12 billion per week. Invest it in green energy science and startups. That would turn the economy around tomorrow. And you could STILL pay the Iraqis a goodly sum per head for every one we've killed, tortured or displaced, AND rebuild their country.
Other ideas):
Progressive tax: More billions--from the people who can afford it. There's your universal health care system. And the wages, income and credit of the working classes freed up to pour money back into the economy.
Big fines: For all war criminals and war profiteers. I mean BIG. Pour it into the education system.
Nationalize the oil industry: As in Venezuela, require that 60% of the country's oil profits be used to benefit the country and its people (schools, infrastructure, small business loans, land reform, stimulate local manufacturing and local arts, whatever's needed). (And you wonder why Bushites and their lapdog corporate news media hate, and relentlessly slander, lie about and demonize Hugo Chavez?)
Re-regulate corporate looters and criminals: Across the board. Job exporters. Tax dodgers. Credit card usurers. Market speculators. Bad banks. Polluters. Free up a lot of money--and acquire back taxes and BIG fines as well.
Cut Defense spending: Cut the military budget by 90%, down to a true defensive posture (no more wars of choice!). Free up all that tax money for people to create real businesses and real (fair) trade.
Stop funding the "war on drugs": Total waste of billions and billions of dollars.
Empty the prisons: Free the 75% of non-violent offenders in our prison system, and GIVE them half the money it takes to keep them in prison for unfairly LONG sentences (approx. $30,000/yr, minimum), to start new lives with, and put the other half into rehab and other assistance.
You asked. I'm answering. It's REAL EASY to turn things completely around with simple common sense. But we haven't had that in our political establishment since at least the Reagan era.
Oh, and one more thing that is costing us billions (and, if the truth were known, multi-trillions): END electronic voting run on 'trade secret,' proprietary programming code, owned and controlled by rightwing Bushite corporations. Counting votes in public view is not only simple and transparent, it is by far the cheapest way to run elections. The billions spent on the e-voting boondoggle has corrupted election officials all over the country, and is the MOST expensive, and LEAST transparent, method of counting votes ever devised. It is, to put it simply, nuts. No common sense at all. Change THAT, and you will soon find our country back on the right track toward democracy, fairness, progress and prosperity.
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Cut gasoline taxes. It would give a huge boost to the public's pocket book and in WI, at any rate our commie governor raids the transportation fund anyway so they can't really argue it's used for roads.
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Like the Ron White comedy act says...
"You can`t fix stupid"
There is so much wrong with all these things in practical reality it is astounding.
First and always foremost is the assumption that if you tax the profits of a business away the owners will still continue to invest capital.
The businesses should exist at no cost or input but should provide high paying,easy jobs mindset simply befuddles me.
I do not understand how anyone can arrive at that somehow and consider it a rational thought. :mental:
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Your Ideas, Please , DU....What Can Be Done (Right Now) To Save Our Economy?
Too late DUmmies...your elected Masters just voted not to renew one of the big things that has kept the economy going.
The Bush tax cuts.
Now folks even down here in the $30K a year range like me are gonna have to pay more.
You idiots got what you wanted. Now suck on it.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-16-08 12:33 PM
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7. This will sound absurd, but honestly; limit the importation of plastic to half the current level
Edited on Sun Mar-16-08 12:34 PM by ThomWV
Plastic in any form, just limit its importation in total tons to some limited amount, roughly half of what it currently is. No particular product, not from any particular country, no particular type, just plastic.
Umm...Aren't Cheeto's bags made from plastic?
This DUmmy is talking about limiting the DUmmy's main food group.
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Your Ideas, Please , DU....What Can Be Done (Right Now) To Save Our Economy?
Too late DUmmies...your elected Masters just voted not to renew one of the big things that has kept the economy going.
The Bush tax cuts.
Now folks even down here in the $30K a year range like me are gonna have to pay more.
You idiots got what you wanted. Now suck on it.
It doesn't matter to them. Even when it is their fault, it's still the Republican's fault.
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Your Ideas, Please , DU....What Can Be Done (Right Now) To Save Our Economy?
Too late DUmmies...your elected Masters just voted not to renew one of the big things that has kept the economy going.
The Bush tax cuts.
Now folks even down here in the $30K a year range like me are gonna have to pay more.
You idiots got what you wanted. Now suck on it.
It doesn't matter to them. Even when it is their fault, it's still the Republican's fault.
Yep,sort of like all the social ills that have been the result of their free drugs and sex mantra from the 60s.
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To see the DUmmies at the peak of stupidity you need to read any thread that involves economics.
That, sir, is the Understatement of the Year. of the Decade. of the Century.
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If they would all commit mass suicide, it would do wonders for the economy.
The problem being, the primitives are about as likely to do that, as they are to leave the United States.
Damn.
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If they would all commit mass suicide, it would do wonders for the economy.
Plus, we could divy up all their shit
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If they would all commit mass suicide, it would do wonders for the economy.
Plus, we could divy up all their shit
Now, other than their trust funds and their stockbrokerage accounts, would a primitive have anything else any of us would want?
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If they would all commit mass suicide, it would do wonders for the economy.
Plus, we could divy up all their shit
Now, other than their trust funds and their stockbrokerage accounts, would a primitive have anything else any of us would want?
Some of them might have various rifles, shotguns, and handguns that might come in handy. Not a lot of them, but there seems to be an occasional DUmb**** who actually believes in the 2nd Amendment. Which, BTW, Heller v. DC is due to be argued this week before the SCOTUS.
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If they would all commit mass suicide, it would do wonders for the economy.
You're as sinister as I am, because I was thinking of something about on the same line :rotf:
My thought was if they would just disappear, then there wouldn't be any imaginary suffering of the economy.
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Your Ideas, Please , DU....What Can Be Done (Right Now) To Save Our Economy?
Any thoughts?
AzDar, first you asked for "ideas" and then you asked if they had "any thoughts." To libs that's two totally different questions and completely unrelated to one another.
Also you didn't specify that they be *good* ideas, nor did you specify that the thoughts should have any merit. Congratulations! You got what you asked for, which was a bunch of nothing.
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BUY MORE CHEETOS, DU!!!111!!!
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BUY MORE CHEETOS, DU!!!111!!!
:lmao:
More Diet Dew would help, too! Since pot isn't part of the legal economy, that wouldn't count . . . :tongue: