The Conservative Cave

The Bar => The Lounge => Topic started by: Thor on April 08, 2010, 11:54:38 PM

Title: A Week from Today
Post by: Thor on April 08, 2010, 11:54:38 PM
I will be under the knife, barring any unexpected complications. I have one more Dr appointment and then I'll know for sure. (Unless I chicken out)

The procedure: a C2 through C7 posterior cervical fusion and laminectomy. I should be out of the hospital Monday or Tuesday, the following week with any luck.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: The Village Idiot on April 09, 2010, 12:30:23 AM
Will you be able to post at all while you recover? Or did you not win an Ipad on FB yet?  :p
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: njpines on April 09, 2010, 07:21:08 AM
Best of luck with your surgery!  Hopefully your recovery is quick and pain-free as possible.  :)
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: IassaFTots on April 09, 2010, 08:28:58 AM
Wow.  Good luck and prayers up!
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: BEG on April 09, 2010, 08:38:59 AM
Good luck Thor.   
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: longview on April 09, 2010, 09:25:01 AM
Best wishes and prayers for a great outcome and speedy recovery.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Texacon on April 09, 2010, 09:40:01 AM
Prayers out for you Thor.  Dang man ... that is a lot of neck movement that will be lost.  I have C5 - C7 fused and I can see a little loss of movement. 

KC
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Thor on April 09, 2010, 09:58:53 AM
I already have C3-C5 fused anteriorally. This needs to be done because my spinal cord is really squished in a couple of levels. The amount of levels are subject to change per the Dr. I guess that he's planning for the worst case scenario. In looking at my MRIs, I only figured that a couple or three levels would be worked on. C6 & C7 don't look that bad, SOoooooooooo......... he may be using them for anchor points or something. I dunno...
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: lastparker on April 09, 2010, 10:49:50 AM
Dude.  My thoughts will be with you.  Stock up on the painkillers and entertainment for the bedridden.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: BEG on April 09, 2010, 11:37:38 AM
I already have C3-C5 fused anteriorally. This needs to be done because my spinal cord is really squished in a couple of levels. The amount of levels are subject to change per the Dr. I guess that he's planning for the worst case scenario. In looking at my MRIs, I only figured that a couple or three levels would be worked on. C6 & C7 don't look that bad, SOoooooooooo......... he may be using them for anchor points or something. I dunno...

Do you know how you hurt your back?  How long have you been living with back pain? 
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: NHSparky on April 09, 2010, 11:53:38 AM
Hang in there, bud.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Thor on April 09, 2010, 12:00:38 PM
Do you know how you hurt your back?  How long have you been living with back pain?  


Since 1992......but it was 1999 before I had any debilitating symptoms.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: BEG on April 09, 2010, 12:02:40 PM


Since 1992......but it was 1999 before I had any debilitating symptoms.

That is a hell of a long time to live with back pain Thor.  I hope you find relief after this surgery. 
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: The Village Idiot on April 09, 2010, 12:07:00 PM
Must be hard to live with that much pain. I'd whine like a baby the whole time.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Thor on April 09, 2010, 12:09:49 PM
Actually, one kind of gets used to it. Vitamin D3 (liquid) has helped a LOT over the last year since I discovered the VA trials. The bigger problem is the numbness and lack of coordination/ usefulness of my legs and hands. I used to type 50-60 WPM (self taught) and now, I'm lucky to get 30 WPM.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: BEG on April 09, 2010, 12:16:51 PM
Actually, one kind of gets used to it. Vitamin D3 (liquid) has helped a LOT over the last year since I discovered the VA trials. The bigger problem is the numbness and lack of coordination/ usefulness of my legs and hands. I used to type 50-60 WPM (self taught) and now, I'm lucky to get 30 WPM.

Will the surgery help with the numbness/lack of coordination? 
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Thor on April 09, 2010, 01:39:10 PM
Will the surgery help with the numbness/lack of coordination?  

Possibly. The fact that I also have Spino-Cerebellar Ataxia that will factor into those problems.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Chris_ on April 09, 2010, 04:43:26 PM
You'll be in our prayers for a good outcome......

doc
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Hawkgirl on April 09, 2010, 04:54:59 PM
Best of Luck on the surgery, Thor.  Heal quickly....


Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: littlelamb on April 09, 2010, 10:18:48 PM
Sending prayers your way Thor
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: debk on April 10, 2010, 12:26:30 AM
Sending prayers and hugs, my friend.... :heart:
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Lacarnut on April 10, 2010, 02:30:39 AM
Good luck with the surgery. Get well soon.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: IassaFTots on April 14, 2010, 12:01:13 PM
Are you still on for tomorrow?  If so, Prayers Up!
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Thor on April 14, 2010, 08:33:15 PM
Barring any unforeseen circumstances, yes. I've been busier than a three peckered billy goat trying to get all of my reports done for the VFW and tying up loose ends.  :o
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: The Village Idiot on April 14, 2010, 08:39:46 PM
good luck!
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: debk on April 15, 2010, 12:01:57 AM
Sending prayers!!! :heart:
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Thor on April 15, 2010, 06:06:41 AM
T- 5 hrs (approx) until the knife, T- 1hr 15 mins until departure
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Chris on April 15, 2010, 07:05:14 AM
Good luck. :(
Title: Surgery Fail
Post by: Thor on April 15, 2010, 11:05:43 PM
Well, I get through North Dallas rush hour traffic to get to the hospital. Check in, get IVs, electrodes (for nerve conduction testing during surgery), some sort of leggings that keep the blood moving in one's legs only to find out that the surgery is to be postponed. MY blood tests were all out of whack. Long story short, the surgeon's assistant didn't bother actually reading the blood tests LAST Thursday and the surgeon didn't bother reading the blood tests until today. Despite the fact I raised a concern over them at the pre-surgical interview on Monday, the surgeon stated  that he didn't foresee any problems. Uh huh...... so anyways, I'm still whole, no surgery and back home. Pure negligence.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: asdf2231 on April 16, 2010, 07:27:11 AM
Ah man...  blood sugars messed up?  Sorry to hear this.  :(
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: IassaFTots on April 16, 2010, 08:03:43 AM
Good lord!  What a PITA!
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: debk on April 16, 2010, 09:30:49 AM
Wow....I was wondering this morning how you were doing....guess you're pissed and still in pain instead of drugged and no pain.... :(
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: BEG on April 16, 2010, 09:59:02 AM
Good lord!  What a PITA!

I agree, what a PITA.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Thor on April 16, 2010, 11:09:42 AM
Deb, not really in pain, just still have the numbness, tingling and lack of coordination. 
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: littlelamb on April 16, 2010, 11:53:31 AM
I am sorry to hear about your surgery being postponed but better to be safe than sorry
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Thor on April 17, 2010, 01:19:50 PM
I'm seriously considering sending the Dr a bill for my wasted time, mileage, stress and anguish, and whatever else I think I can add on. I wonder how that would go over?? :uhsure:
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: The Village Idiot on April 17, 2010, 01:23:05 PM
Could he forward it to a government agency? lol
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: crockspot on April 17, 2010, 03:15:48 PM
I'm seriously considering sending the Dr a bill for my wasted time, mileage, stress and anguish, and whatever else I think I can add on. I wonder how that would go over?? :uhsure:

It's always best to piss your doctor off AFTER he operates, so hold off on that bill for now.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Thor on April 17, 2010, 03:36:37 PM
It's always best to piss your doctor off AFTER he operates, so hold off on that bill for now.

I'm seriously considering another Dr., probably one out of state. He had TWO surgical cancellations on Thursday that I know of. Something ain't right. Besides, I did get an idea of a medical implant device.  :cheersmate:
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: crockspot on April 17, 2010, 03:45:44 PM
I'm seriously considering another Dr., probably one out of state. He had TWO surgical cancellations on Thursday that I know of. Something ain't right. Besides, I did get an idea of a medical implant device.  :cheersmate:

He does sound a little disorganized. Maybe he is a total genius in the operating room, but if you don't feel comfortable with him, don't hesitate to dump him. He works for you after all.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Thor on April 17, 2010, 04:41:29 PM
When I go to build a computer, I don't start until everything is in order. I would HOPE that a surgeon would pay a little more attention to detail.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Tucker on April 18, 2010, 07:32:30 PM
Whole thing sounds like a cluster&%^$. Hope everything works itself out.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Chris on April 18, 2010, 07:38:43 PM
I've dealt with doctor inconsistencies before.  My neurosurgeon injured his hand before I was scheduled to have surgery.  It was passed off to another doctor in his practice.  My ophthalmologist had another doctor in his practice do an operation he was not familiar with.  But not doing or checking lab work is just wrong.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: formerlurker on April 18, 2010, 08:20:14 PM
You are in my thoughts and prayers for a speedy recovery.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: The Village Idiot on April 18, 2010, 08:24:32 PM
dang, Thor, all the best man!
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Hawkgirl on April 21, 2010, 04:05:43 PM
Sounds like he (the surgeon) is the too busy to focus on the small things.  Something that would make me look elsewhere.  BUT....saying that...usually, the surgeon doesn't care about all the blood work, it's something your primary doctor looks into before HE clears you for surgery.  My surgery was postponed a few years ago because of high blood pressure.  My primary wouldn't let me have my surgery until that was under control (first time Ilearned about my high bp), so I was put on medication and had the surgery 3 weeks later....Again, usually not something the surgeon looks into..
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Thor on April 22, 2010, 01:02:58 PM
According to the surgeon, his assistant was supposed to look at the blood tests. Hell, I had a time tracking her down to get them faxed to the hospital so the "hospitalist" could look at them. I almost started to go over to the surgeon's office and track down the assistant myself. Before I did that, I went back into the admitting section and there was a nurse looking for me. The nurse had to have the assistant paged and finally got the blood tests. In the interim, I had placed THREE calls to the assistant, left messages and ever, ever once got a return phone call. I'm thinking of finding another surgeon or maybe just waiting until I can't walk. My theory is that the pinched and compressed spinal cord is causing problems. The Doctors don't seem to think so. I'm like, "WTF"?? But, I don't have "medical training", as was pointed out by one of the Doctors on surgery day. I'd like to punch that arrogant bastard in the nose.
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: Doc on April 22, 2010, 01:24:18 PM
According to the surgeon, his assistant was supposed to look at the blood tests. Hell, I had a time tracking her down to get them faxed to the hospital so the "hospitalist" could look at them. I almost started to go over to the surgeon's office and track down the assistant myself. Before I did that, I went back into the admitting section and there was a nurse looking for me. The nurse had to have the assistant paged and finally got the blood tests. In the interim, I had placed THREE calls to the assistant, left messages and ever, ever once got a return phone call. I'm thinking of finding another surgeon or maybe just waiting until I can't walk. My theory is that the pinched and compressed spinal cord is causing problems. The Doctors don't seem to think so. I'm like, "WTF"?? But, I don't have "medical training", as was pointed out by one of the Doctors on surgery day. I'd like to punch that arrogant bastard in the nose.

I've found that surgeons almost universally have a latent diety complex, (and my best friend is a retired neurosurgeon).........that said, he always advised me that if you think that your case is being poorly handled, the quickest way to get a doctor's attention is to fill out the form requesting your ENTIRE case record file (X-rays, MRI's, CT scans, blood work....the whole thing), stating that you are going to seek a second opinion, due to the fact that you feel that his/her staff has mishandled your case........and ask for a copy of the record request form to accompany a complaint to the state medical board (and the hospital ombudsman)........he said THAT will get the surgeon's attention......

A complaint to the state board means that the surgeon will have to spend a lot of time filling out paperwork to respond......and a complaint to the hospital ombudsman means that he/she will have to spend time in front of the hospital's professional review comittee.  Both of these things require time, which takes money out of his/her pocket, as it represents time not spent actually doing surgery.  Hits them where it hurts, in the bank account.

Be prepared, however, for one of two outcomes:

1.  Your surgeon will suddenly become your new "best friend".....and his/her staff will be falling all over themselves to kiss your ass.....

2.  He/she will give you your records, and tell you to get lost (after meeting with his staff to determine his liability  in your case) .....so have a new doctor in your pocket......

doc
Title: Re: A Week from Today
Post by: debk on April 22, 2010, 02:28:24 PM
Know what the difference between God and a surgeon is?

God knows He's God.....a surgeon thinks he's God.



Having been married to a surgeon....the above is true....in most cases. I'm sure there are a couple who know their feet are firmly planted on the ground....I've just never met one.

I agree with doc.....ask for all that stuff. Sounds like either result would be a good thing....a second opinion, which should give you the option of going to the second for your surgery, or getting a new surgeon altogether.

Sorry that you are having to go through all this, Rob.  :heart: