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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: bijou on April 07, 2010, 11:01:03 AM
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*** Stupak to call it quits? With just a few days to go before the end of this recess, House Democrats are cautiously optimistic that they could get through it without a single retirement announcement. That said, there is still a concern that some important incumbents in districts that they are uniquely suited could call it quits. At the top of the concern list this week: Michigan Democrat Bart Stupak. The Democrat best known this year as the Democrat who delivered the winning margin of votes for the president's health-care reform bill is said to be simply exhausted. The criticism he received -- first from the left, and then from the right -- has worn him and his family out. And if he had to make the decision now, he'd probably NOT run. As of this writing, a bunch of senior Democrats (many of the same ones who twisted his arm on the health care vote) are trying to talk him into running. The filing deadline in Michigan is still a month away, but veterans of that state's politics are skeptical anyone other than Stupak can hold that district in this political climate.
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2010/04/07/2259778.aspx
Michigan Rep. Bart Stupak, the congressman who led anti-abortion rights Democrats in the House during health care negotiations, will retire this year, CBS News has learned. He is expected to announce his plans later this morning.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20002106-503544.html
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Methinks he was dumb enough to poll his constituents, and the response was shocking for it's vehemence as for it's content.
:-)
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Considering how thoroughly he pissed off both the left and the right, they may be in for a rude awakening if they think he is 'Uniquely qualified' to retain that seat for the Dems.
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If a Kennedy can't poll high enough to justify running in a New England state, I can't begin to imagine the shit Stupak is catching right about now.
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Considering how thoroughly he pissed off both the left and the right, they may be in for a rude awakening if they think he is 'Uniquely qualified' to retain that seat for the Dems.
The moron was getting death threats BEFORE he switched. Not that I think he was ever really pro-life.
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Is their a difference in benefits if one retires from office or fails to get reelected?
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Is their a difference in benefits if one retires from office or fails to get reelected?
Yes I think you get better benefits if you retire.
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Rep. Bart Stupak to retire, putting seat in play
LINK (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0410/35585.html#ixzz0kbzWE6Kr)
By MIKE ALLEN & JOSH KRAUSHAAR | 4/9/10 8:47 AM EDT
Politico.com
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Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), who had a central role in the health reform fight as the leader of anti-abortion Democrats, plans to announce Friday that he will not run for reelection, a Democratic official said. Without Stupak on the ballot, the seat becomes an immediate pickup opportunity for Republicans.
"Now with health care done, he’s retiring," a friend said. "He has thought about retiring for the last three cycles, but was always talked into staying: to elect John Kerry to help end the war, to elect a Democratic majority to get health care done."
President Barack Obama called Stupak on Wednesday and asked him not to retire. Stupak, 58, also resisted entreaties from Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.), the dean of the Wolverine State delegation.
Republicans immediately attributed Stupak's decision to step down as a direct consequence of his health care vote.
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Gee, ya think? Guy reminds me of Frankie Five Angels after he takes the fall--doing the right thing for "The Family" and just "open up your veins."
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Rep. Bart Stupak to retire, putting seat in play
By MIKE ALLEN & JOSH KRAUSHAAR | 4/9/10 8:47 AM EDT
Politico.com
(excerpt)
Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.), who had a central role in the health reform fight as the leader of anti-abortion Democrats, plans to announce Friday that he will not run for reelection, a Democratic official said. Without Stupak on the ballot, the seat becomes an immediate pickup opportunity for Republicans.
"Now with health care done, he’s retiring," a friend said. "He has thought about retiring for the last three cycles, but was always talked into staying: to elect John Kerry to help end the war, to elect a Democratic majority to get health care done."
President Barack Obama called Stupak on Wednesday and asked him not to retire. Stupak, 58, also resisted entreaties from Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Rep. John Dingell (D-Mich.), the dean of the Wolverine State delegation.
Republicans immediately attributed Stupak's decision to step down as a direct consequence of his health care vote.
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Gee, ya think? Guy reminds me of Frankie Five Angels after he takes the fall--doing the right thing for "The Family" and just "open up your veins."
And I recently read Bawney Fwank may be putting his seat in play too. :rimshot: No really, Laura Ingraham Tweet.. (http://twitter.com/IngrahamAngle)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_SZc9hEspn3c/SaIaqKBJEII/AAAAAAAAAFw/mXSHNg-uwZQ/S760/BarneyFrankBankingQueen.jpg)
What am I to think of this turn of events?
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Ah, the prescience of the whole "Stupak backwards is 'kaputs'" is very satisfying.
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out, Mr. Stupak.
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Hi,
Just watched a blurb on Fox where they discussed the fact Stupak has decided not to run. They then ran a segment where his wife was bitching about all the nasty calls and faxes they received at their home and the office. The tea parties have targeted him and are demonstrating as we type.
Limbaugh said it best when he said they are governing AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.
I am totally opposed to any kind of violence and all the talk show hosts have been educating us to avoid that at all costs. At the same time I think this is the beginning of the end for many in congress. Like any adults and children we have learned that "behavior has consequences". When the democrat party in congress totally ignores the will of the people on TARP, Cap & Tax and health care, they doggone sure better be prepared for the consequences.
Those consequences will come about in feedback they are not going to like followed by many of them losing their jobs. Just like in the private sector, displease those that hire you and you are likely to get some really negative feedback. Continue with the objectionable behavior and one should expect to be fired.
Many in congress are hopefully going to learn lessons about the real world.
regards,
5412
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Thoughts on Stupak retiring?
He ****ed us and ran away. If his last minute sellout was worth it he should stand up and say as much but he knows he sold us out--and his supposed pro-life position with it--against our will and he doesn't have the stones to defend his actions let alone face the electoral consequences of his actions.
So now he retires with a fat gov't pension and gets to pretend he's beyond the fray while the rest of us try to cope with the fallout of his cowardice.
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Justice Stevens is also retiring. Look for a rabid leftist Marxist to take the liberals place.
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FGL: Confirmation for the judge, ratification for the treaty. Let us see.
MSB: My husband's words today at lunch, almost verbatim. I agree. I couldn't stand to hear his dumb speech with his weepy wife.
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Thoughts on Stupak retiring?
He ****ed us and ran away. If his last minute sellout was worth it he should stand up and say as much but he knows he sold us out--and his supposed pro-life position with it--against our will and he doesn't have the stones to defend his actions let alone face the electoral consequences of his actions.
So now he retires with a fat gov't pension and gets to pretend he's beyond the fray while the rest of us try to cope with the fallout of his cowardice.
I don't agree that his was a last minute decision. My feeling is the plan was for him to vote for the damn bill all along, it was just how do they find a way for him to save face and do so. Never did I think the bill was not going to pass.
One way or the other I hope he catches hell the rest of his life, he sold out the American people and those who hired him.
Behavior has consequences......
regards,
5412
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æˆ‘å€‘ç‚ºä½ å“泣我們的馬克æ€ä¸»ç¾©çš„兄弟。 Chinese
우리는 ë‹¹ì‹ ì„위한 ìš°ë¦¬ì˜ ë§ˆë¥´í¬ìŠ¤ì£¼ì˜ ë™ìƒì„ í˜ë¦¬ë‹¤. North Korean
Мы плакать о тебе нашу маркÑиÑÑ‚Ñкую брата. Russian
Translation: We weep for you our Marxist brother
כל עוד דביל. Hebrew
ã ã‹ã‚‰é•·ã„ã°ã‹ã€‚ Japanese
Translation: So long chump.
Yipee, yahoo, halleluah, November won't get here soon enough. North American English.
:hi5: :hi5: :tongue: :tongue:
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FGL: Confirmation for the judge, ratification for the treaty. Let us see.
MSB: My husband's words today at lunch, almost verbatim. I agree. I couldn't stand to hear his dumb speech with his weepy wife.
Hi,
Depends on who gets nominated, look for a senate filibuster if that is what it takes. I hope the republicans are emboldened enought to try to make the nomination fail until after the next election. Then BO can do a recess appointment further proving his dictator status.
regards,
5412
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æˆ‘å€‘ç‚ºä½ å“泣我們的馬克æ€ä¸»ç¾©çš„兄弟。 Chinese
우리는 ë‹¹ì‹ ì„위한 ìš°ë¦¬ì˜ ë§ˆë¥´í¬ìŠ¤ì£¼ì˜ ë™ìƒì„ í˜ë¦¬ë‹¤. North Korean
Мы плакать о тебе нашу маркÑиÑÑ‚Ñкую брата. Russian
Translation: We weep for you our Marxist brother
כל עוד דביל. Hebrew
ã ã‹ã‚‰é•·ã„ã°ã‹ã€‚ Japanese
Translation: So long chump.
Yipee, yahoo, halleluah, November won't get here soon enough. North American English.
:hi5: :hi5: :tongue: :tongue:
Dear Mrs. Stupak,
OJ just called he said "Behavior has consequences lady!"
regards,
5412
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Hi,
Depends on who gets nominated, look for a senate filibuster if that is what it takes. I hope the republicans are emboldened enought to try to make the nomination fail until after the next election. Then BO can do a recess appointment further proving his dictator status.
regards,
5412
I don't think 0bama can legally do a recess appointment to fill a SCOTUS seat. Recess appointments are intended to be for positions in the Executive branch, not the judiciary. Also, recess appointments are limited duration, and I don't believe that would pass Constitutional muster for a lifetime appointment without the "advice and consent" of the Senate.
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I don't think 0bama can legally do a recess appointment to fill a SCOTUS seat.
*snort* Think that will stop him?
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That's why I went back and put in the word "legally". I have no doubts as to whether he would do it anyway.
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Good riddance, you backstabbing dumbshit.
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*snort* Think that will stop him?
The Supreme Court is a "co-equal" branch of the federal government. Outside of nominating new justices for the Senate to confirm, The MessiahnFuhrer has no authority to force them to do something they don't want to do. I'm sure, if Lord Zero didn't follow every whit of the process the Constitution lays out for filling a seat on the Court, Chief Justice Roberts wouldn't even bat an eyelash at refusing to seat a new "associate Justice" who's confirmation wasn't as clean as the wind driven snow.
Besides, Justice Stevens is the acknowleged head of the Moonbat Wing of the USSC. Even if The MessiahnFuhrer runs a raving, goose-stepping marxist for that seat, the make-up of the court still doesn't change. We have 4 voting in line with the Constitution, 4 voting to toss the Constitution onto a bonfire, and 1 "switch hitter" who could go either way.
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Cut and run, eh?
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and 1 "switch hitter" who could go either way.
Who is the switchhitter?
As for Stupak, this is not surprising..he probably did some internal polling and realized he's the most hated man in America.
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The criticism has worn him out. :thatsright: Aww... poor baby. Cry to me when they're making up stories about your children AND your grandchildren. :bird:
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Who is the switchhitter?
That would be Anthony Kennedy.
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Don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you loser
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He is a coward who got an earfull from his constituents. His poll numbers have dropped like a rock so he decided to chicken out rather than have ego bruised with a crushing defeat in Nov.
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Yes I think you get better benefits if you retire.
Nope--no difference. Total time in service is the key. Five years to become fully vested, which basically means 3 terms as Congressman, 1 term as a Senator.
http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/uscongress/a/congresspay.htm
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Don't they get to keep some of the money they raised for re-election if they "retire"?
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Don't they get to keep some of the money they raised for re-election if they "retire"?
I'm pretty sure they don't. Any funds raised for re-election campaigns not applied to future campaigns either have to be given to other candidates/non-profit PAC's or donated to charity.