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Police release cell phone video snippet of Dover High School electrical shock incident
LINK TO STORY WITH VIDEO (http://fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100331/GJNEWS_01/100339907)
By Aaron Sanborn
Wednesday, March 31, 2010
(c) Fosters Daily Democrat
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A video of Dover High School student Kyle DuBois being shocked in his electrical trades class on March 11 was released by police on Wednesday.
The release of the video came after Foster's filed a Right-to-Know requests asking for the video and the police report narrative of the incident.
The completion of the police report narratives are still pending.
Lt. Dave Terlemezian said the four-second video clip was taken from another student's cell phone. The video shows DuBois with alligator clips attached to his chest. He can be seen lunging forward and bending over.
“We believe it's safe to conclude that the video begins while the current is flowing through his chest,†Terlemezian said. “It appears that at the end of the video, the electrical cord has been unplugged and he has his mobility back and that's when you see him moving his arms to take the clips off and the video ends.â€
It is believed that DuBois collapses a few seconds after the video ends because his heart stops.
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Teh stoopid. It burnnnnssssz.
And whether he was there offering a Mountain Dew or not, the teacher needs to go bye-bye. The kid is lucky to be alive.
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Thank goodness they didn't have cellphone cameras when I was in school!
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he lived??
why? What could someone that stupid possibly contribute to society besides another entertaining attempt at a Darwin Award?
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he lived??
why? What could someone that stupid possibly contribute to society besides another entertaining attempt at a Darwin Award?
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Several students told police that it was Kelley who promised DuBois a Mountain Dew if he agreed to get a shock from an electrical test cord. However, Kelley has denied he was involved in the dare.
Police decided to file no criminal charges in the case because there was no evidence that anyone believed the shock would hurt DuBois. [ /quote].
Kids will be kids you know. Adults do some really stupid things thinking they can do so safely.
This is the reason we have Nanny State Laws and all the regulations for inspections of wiring and plumbing, seat belt laws and classes for safe hunting etc.
That said---In the above quote it states that no one believed the shock would harm the boy.
:banghead: Any kind of shock is painfull, walk across a wool carpet in the winter in a place with dry air then kiss someone---Darn but that can sting.
Now about this teacher that bribed the boy to hook himself up to electrods on his chest---over his heart-- why not have bribed him to learn to use a pneumatic nail gun blindfolded.?
Someone needs to look into the history of this so called teacher, do a drug test on him, find out why a grown man would in courage a young boy to do such a thing.
There is such a thing in law that states a professional that disregards their training and causes physical or monetary damages to another SHOULD have known and are dealt with much different then someone who has no knowledge of the danger or likelyhood of an accident happening.
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These kids are in an electrical trades class, and they "didn't believe" it could be harmful?
Do any of them know what the most deadly voltage is, in terms of number of fatalities? (Hint: 110 volts.)
The fact that ANY kid in this class was doing that, and the fact that the teacher didn't give them instruction on electrical safety on DAY FRICKEN ONE means I wouldn't let any of them anywhere NEAR any jobsite I was working, and that includes the teacher.
Intentionally taking a shock is a MAJOR safety no-no, at ANY voltage.
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While in my Navy school, I was working on a live radar unit. I was pulling a circuit card out and got one of my fingers on each hand across a capacitor that was rated at 400 working volts DC. It knocked me across the aisle. (about 6 ft) I was sent to sick bay regardless of the fact that I "felt OK". Lessons hard learned but learned well.
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These kids are in an electrical trades class, and they "didn't believe" it could be harmful?
Can't expect competence from government schools I guess
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This teacher is a moron, who should be doing something slightly less hazardous, like serving food in the school cafeteria! I've worked in electronics, specifically with power supplies, since 1980. The last time I got "bit" - by 120VAC - was when Reagan was President. I have every desire to maintain that record, especially since I'm working now with voltages in the 1KV-6KV range.
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The teacher was lawyered-up fast in this case. One can only wonder what Mr. Wizard has for credentials, a master electrician license or a Master of Education. Here in P-town north they let the Auto shop teacher go because he wouldn't get a Master's degree even though he had all the industry certifications one could ever want. Let us not have greasy fingernails in the 'teacher's lounge' there Louie.
BTW......Speaking of the Navy and traditions, how about the old "nail on the crow" story featuring a Hilti Gun (and possibly a bout of adult beverages) :drunksailor: I recall hearing that one back in the seventies. :hammer:
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These kids are in an electrical trades class, and they "didn't believe" it could be harmful?
Do any of them know what the most deadly voltage is, in terms of number of fatalities? (Hint: 110 volts.)
The fact that ANY kid in this class was doing that, and the fact that the teacher didn't give them instruction on electrical safety on DAY FRICKEN ONE means I wouldn't let any of them anywhere NEAR any jobsite I was working, and that includes the teacher.
Intentionally taking a shock is a MAJOR safety no-no, at ANY voltage.
It ain't the voltage that kills ya.... It's the amperage.
Most times.
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While in my Navy school, I was working on a live radar unit. I was pulling a circuit card out and got one of my fingers on each hand across a capacitor that was rated at 400 working volts DC. It knocked me across the aisle. (about 6 ft) I was sent to sick bay regardless of the fact that I "felt OK". Lessons hard learned but learned well.
I thought capacitors were rated in Farads, or subportions of.
Usually micro-farads.
I've yet to meet an AC capacitor.
:fuelfire:
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Capacitors are rated in their capacitance, ranging from pico-farads to farads (yes, there are capacitors rated in farads) and maximum voltage. Most are rated for DC voltage, but there are special types rated for AC voltage. The two types I'm aware of are safety capacitors, used in power supplies in the noise filter circuit before the rectifier. They are called safety capacitors because they have been tested to certain safety standards by the safety agencies of various countries. The other type are used across motors (e.g. in your central air conditioner) to correct a problem related to the kind of load motors present to the AC line. If you aren't asleep yet due to a TMI overdose, you may need to see a doctor.
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Capacitors are rated in their capacitance, ranging from pico-farads to farads (yes, there are capacitors rated in farads) and maximum voltage. Most are rated for DC voltage, but there are special types rated for AC voltage. The two types I'm aware of are safety capacitors, used in power supplies in the noise filter circuit before the rectifier. They are called safety capacitors because they have been tested to certain safety standards by the safety agencies of various countries. The other type are used across motors (e.g. in your central air conditioner) to correct a problem related to the kind of load motors present to the AC line. If you aren't asleep yet due to a TMI overdose, you may need to see a doctor.
Thanks Pete. It's been a while since my electronic school days. I honestly had never heard of an AC capacitor.
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It ain't the voltage that kills ya.... It's the amperage.
Most times.
True--but people don't realize just how little current can send one's heart into defib, and what "typical" human resistance is, versus DIRECTLY ACROSS THE HEART.
There's a reason OSHA considers anything over 50 volts "high voltage". We were always taught 30 volts can be fatal. I know of one case where a guy electrocuted himself on the INTERNAL BATTERY OF A SIMPSON (22 volts) when he jabbed probes into each hand to "measure his resistance".
100 mA for one second is considered fatal, but can occur at much lower currents, particularly if one goes into defib and isn't treated, which can happen at currents as low as 30 mA.
For those not familiar, 1mA=.001 A. The computer monitor you're reading this on right now draws about 1.5 A.