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Title: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: Red October on March 15, 2008, 09:20:30 AM
Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press Writer
Yahoo News
 
[excerpt]

WASHINGTON - Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama on Friday denounced inflammatory remarks from his pastor, who has railed against the United States and accused the country of bringing on the Sept. 11 attacks by spreading terrorism.
 
Obama called the statements appearing on television and the Internet "completely unacceptable and inexcusable" in a Fox News interview and said they didn't reflect the kinds of sermons he had heard from the Rev. Jeremiah Wright while attending services at Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ.

Obama, a member of the church since the early 1990s, said he would have quit Trinity had such statements been "the repeated tenor of the church. ... I wouldn't feel comfortable there."

Earlier Friday, Obama responded by posting a blog about his relationship with Wright and Trinity on the Huffington Post. Wright brought Obama to Christianity, officiated at his wedding, baptized his daughters and inspired the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope."

Obama wrote that he's looked to Wright for spiritual advice, not political guidance, and he's been pained and angered to learn of some of his pastor's comments for which he had not been present. Obama told MSNBC that Wright had stepped down from his campaign's African American Religious Leadership Committee.

"I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies," Obama said in his blog posting. "I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Reverend Wright that are at issue."

In a sermon on the Sunday after the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001, Wright suggested the United States brought on the attacks.

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Wright said. "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

In a 2003 sermon, he said blacks should condemn the United States.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people. damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

He also gave a sermon in December comparing Obama to Jesus, promoting his candidacy and criticizing his rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080315/ap_on_el_pr/obama_pastor (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080315/ap_on_el_pr/obama_pastor)

I wonder how this plays with the left wing base.  :popcorn:  If you want to be President, you can't associate with people who cry "G*d damn America." 
Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: Carl on March 15, 2008, 09:26:59 AM
I have a feeling his statement that he never heard those things said is going to come back to haunt him very soon.
Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: daveman on March 15, 2008, 09:39:58 AM
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Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: Chris_ on March 15, 2008, 09:48:19 AM
But, the black supremacy and anti-semitism is still cool with Barack?
Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: Splashdown on March 15, 2008, 10:05:06 AM
You can't be a member of a church for 20 years or so and then suddenly realize that the pastor is a moron.

It's like Louis in Casablanca, who's shocked, shocked that there's gambling going on at this establishment, even as he pockets his evening winnings.

I hope the public sees through this.
Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: Carl on March 15, 2008, 10:28:51 AM
You can't be a member of a church for 20 years or so and then suddenly realize that the pastor is a moron.

It's like Louis in Casablanca, who's shocked, shocked that there's gambling going on at this establishment, even as he pockets his evening winnings.

I hope the public sees through this.

These past couple of weeks have taken the veneer of invincibility off him.
He is a flawed candidate that has escaped much vetting.
Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: Tess Anderson on March 15, 2008, 03:29:00 PM
Yes, he's probably done now. I doubt Hillary will even let him be VP now - it took him 20 + years to say anything bad about his pastor, now it looks like mere political expidency.
Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: Wretched Excess on March 15, 2008, 07:00:34 PM

I am waiting for the video of him in the congregation during one of these insane rants to show up on youtube.
Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: DixieBelle on March 15, 2008, 07:16:31 PM
^pumping his fist and saying "Can I get an AMEN!??!?!" Oh please, oh please.... :-)
Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: Wretched Excess on March 15, 2008, 07:39:26 PM
^pumping his fist and saying "Can I get an AMEN!??!?!" Oh please, oh please.... :-)

watch for Team Clinton to work this into their argument.  since no one will get to denver with the required number of delegates, it will all be backroom arm twisting to get the nomination.  "you can't nominate obama, mccain will bust him open with all this jeremiah wright stuff."

the clinton campaign has disappointed me mightily.  they were so sure that they would have the nomination sewn up on super tuesday that they had no plan whatsoever in place after that.  if they squirm out of that staggering blunder, one will have to wonder if the clintons are just the luckiest people alive.
Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: ReardenSteel on March 16, 2008, 12:01:23 PM
Pretty good article on the topic.

Uncle Jeremiah
Barack Obama and his cookie-cutter race huckster.
By Mark Steyn
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZjE3NDc3YTU0ZGM5NGEzZTdkNjcyZjBiNDVjMjU5MGQ=


Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: Chris_ on March 16, 2008, 01:40:29 PM
Pretty good article on the topic.

Uncle Jeremiah
Barack Obama and his cookie-cutter race huckster.
By Mark Steyn
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZjE3NDc3YTU0ZGM5NGEzZTdkNjcyZjBiNDVjMjU5MGQ=




Steyn hits another one out of the park. He nails it right here:

Quote
What is Barack Obama for? It’s not his “policies,” such as they are. Rather, Senator Obama embodies an idea: He’s a symbol of redemption and renewal, and a lot of other airy-fairy abstractions that don’t boil down to much except making upscale white liberals feel good about themselves and get even more of a frisson out of white liberal guilt than they usually do.

Cindie
Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 16, 2008, 08:50:08 PM
This "pastor" has more followers than Fred Phelps and both are kooks. Wright is more dangerous. Phelps is a pathetic loser with a huge ego.
Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: DixieBelle on March 18, 2008, 11:15:32 AM
^pumping his fist and saying "Can I get an AMEN!??!?!" Oh please, oh please.... :-)

watch for Team Clinton to work this into their argument.  since no one will get to denver with the required number of delegates, it will all be backroom arm twisting to get the nomination.  "you can't nominate obama, mccain will bust him open with all this jeremiah wright stuff."

the clinton campaign has disappointed me mightily.  they were so sure that they would have the nomination sewn up on super tuesday that they had no plan whatsoever in place after that.  if they squirm out of that staggering blunder, one will have to wonder if the clintons are just the luckiest people alive.

excellent observation. she was running on inevitability wasn't she?
Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: Wretched Excess on March 18, 2008, 12:02:09 PM
^pumping his fist and saying "Can I get an AMEN!??!?!" Oh please, oh please.... :-)

watch for Team Clinton to work this into their argument.  since no one will get to denver with the required number of delegates, it will all be backroom arm twisting to get the nomination.  "you can't nominate obama, mccain will bust him open with all this jeremiah wright stuff."

the clinton campaign has disappointed me mightily.  they were so sure that they would have the nomination sewn up on super tuesday that they had no plan whatsoever in place after that.  if they squirm out of that staggering blunder, one will have to wonder if the clintons are just the luckiest people alive.

excellent observation. she was running on inevitability wasn't she?

"inevitable" seemed pretty reasonable considering the field of candidates that they started off with.
 
Title: Re: Obama denounces pastor's 9/11 comments
Post by: Ptarmigan on March 18, 2008, 08:27:18 PM
Uh, it is too late.