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Title: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: Freeper on March 28, 2010, 04:37:51 PM
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so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
   
I hear all the time that forcing people to buy health insurance isn't in the constitution.
Maybe so, but there is a whole lot that is not in the constitution, to wit our economic structure.
Or maybe I am wrong.
Is capitalism as our economic structure any place in the constitution? Constitution only. That is what is always cited by the GoOPers.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8039144

Hell you goons say abortion is right there in the constitution yet deny that the second amendment actually gives us as individuals the right to bear arms. So when you all talk about the constitution it is a foregone conclusion that you have no idea what you are talking about.

It may not be spelled out in the constitution which economic system we should have but, given the rights cited in the constitution for each of us, capitalism matches up pretty well.
Title: Re: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: kenth on March 28, 2010, 05:05:39 PM
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Or maybe I am wrong.
Is capitalism as our economic structure any place in the constitution? Constitution only. That is what is always cited by the GoOPers.

Maybe? I'd say that's putting it mildly. Capitalism being our economic foundation is implicit, due to the freedoms cited; freedom of association, etc. Central planning, communism, intrudes on people's rights to do as they please. Communism is anti-freedom. Pretty obvious from history, but the dummies aren't very good students. They are dummies after all.
Title: Re: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: Duke Nukum on March 28, 2010, 05:15:25 PM
Where in the constitution does it say that DUmmies are entitled to free ponies?
Title: Re: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: diesel driver on March 28, 2010, 05:32:53 PM
Conversely, where in the Constitution does it say we have to have a socialist, fascist, or communist economy?

Capitalism stems from freedom, freedom is/was (supposedly) guaranteed by the Constitution, but that was before liberal assholes used it for toilet paper....
Title: Re: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: dandi on March 28, 2010, 06:03:49 PM
In order for Socialism to exist, the State must be granted power. Capitalism comes from private effort. Therefore, it is encumbent upon the purveyors of Socialism to prove the government authority, not the private sector. Capitalism being part of the default mode for personal freedom.
Title: Re: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 28, 2010, 06:20:01 PM
The Fifth Amendment is generally considered by legal scholars to guarantee the freedom to contract, and is buttressed by the Fourteenth Amendment's protection of due process and equal protection for all.  Capitalism is implicit in the freedom to contract and to be secure from the depredations of a predatory government in one's own possessions.
Title: Re: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: thundley4 on March 28, 2010, 06:39:21 PM
The Fifth Amendment is generally considered by legal scholars to guarantee the freedom to contract, and is buttressed by the Fourteenth Amendment's protection of due process and equal protection for all.  Capitalism is implicit in the freedom to contract and to be secure from the depredations of a predatory government in one's own possessions.

This administration is making inroads to abrogating those rights. 
Title: Re: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: crockspot on March 28, 2010, 07:55:00 PM
Let's see... capitalism was the only system in existence when the Constitution was written. As wise as the founding fathers were, they could not have forseen the foolishness of communism, socialism, and DUmmyism.
Title: Re: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: DefiantSix on March 28, 2010, 08:05:46 PM
Let's see... capitalism was the only system in existence when the Constitution was written. As wise as the founding fathers were, they could not have forseen the foolishness of communism, socialism, and DUmmyism.

Quote from: Samuel Adams
..."The utopian schemes of leveling [redistribution of wealth] and a community of goods [central ownership of the means of production and distribution], are as visionary and impractical as those which vest all property in the Crown. [These ideas] are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government, unconstitutional.

The founders saw Socialism/Communism/Marxism/Fascism coming a mile away.
Title: Re: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: NHSparky on March 28, 2010, 08:14:55 PM
D6, I'm gonna need a link for that Samuel Adams quote--there are some libs who I need to show that to.
Title: Re: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: DefiantSix on March 28, 2010, 08:23:12 PM
D6, I'm gonna need a link for that Samuel Adams quote--there are some libs who I need to show that to.

This one (http://obxteaparty.com/page15/files/88937a888f1c3c2427010c67fb7ca09b-0.html) (third paragaph from the bottom) seems to function well enough.  I just keep my copy of The 5,000 Year Leap next to my computer for just such occasions.  The citation is quoted from The Life and Public Service of Samuel Adams by William V. Wells, vol 1, p. 154.
Title: Re: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: thundley4 on March 28, 2010, 08:53:05 PM
This one (http://obxteaparty.com/page15/files/88937a888f1c3c2427010c67fb7ca09b-0.html) (third paragaph from the bottom) seems to function well enough.  I just keep my copy of The 5,000 Year Leap next to my computer for just such occasions.  The citation is quoted from The Life and Public Service of Samuel Adams by William V. Wells, vol 1, p. 154.

I found several other sources quoting that biography. (William V. Wells, The Life and Public Service of Samuel Adams, 3 vols. [Boston: Little, Brown and Company, 1865, 1:154.)
Title: Re: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: PatriotGame on March 29, 2010, 12:58:46 AM
Where in the constitution does it say that DUmmies are entitled to free ponies?

I am leaning more towards where in the Constitution does it specifically state that DUmmys are entitled to air.
Title: Re: so where in the constitution does it say America will have a capitalist economy?
Post by: The Village Idiot on March 29, 2010, 08:02:00 AM
Let's see... capitalism was the only system in existence when the Constitution was written. As wise as the founding fathers were, they could not have forseen the foolishness of communism, socialism, and DUmmyism.

I think Mercantilism and Feudalism were still around in some respects