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Current Events => Politics => Topic started by: Hawkgirl on March 24, 2010, 04:36:01 PM
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Recall the whole spiel about children with pre-existing conditions would be covered the day after the bill was signed? Well um no, it was not actually IN the bill, due to democratic incompetence. Children with pre-existing conditions will not have access to care until 2014.
Yes, these incompetent beurocrats who can't even get an important item in their own legislation right, are going to run MY healthcare???
http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2010/03/whoops-obamacare-does-not-cover-preexisting-conditions-until-2014.html
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Get used to the "ooops"....ooops we lost your appointment....ooops we lost your medicine....oooops we lost your number.....ooops you're dead.....ooops so sorry.
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There oops are going to cause a lot of deaths
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Maybe Obama will go in for a checkup and they transplant his brain.... could be our only hope left. :rotf:
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Yeah oops, mybe we should have left it like it was then childen with preexisting conditions would NEVER be covered. Then they would die, but thats ok as long as we dont have that Socalist Healthcare. HOW DARE these children with life threating conditons want insurance. HOW DARE THEY!!!!!! You people make me ****in sick
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Yeah oops, mybe we should have left it like it was then childen with preexisting conditions would NEVER be covered. Then they would die, but thats ok as long as we dont have that Socalist Healthcare. HOW DARE these children with life threating conditons want insurance. HOW DARE THEY!!!!!! You people make me funckin sick.
If 0BamaCare ever comes to full fruition, more people will be dying from lack of care than are right now. You asshole that want to remake this country into some socialist utopia make me sick, Get off your ass work for what you think you deserve.
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Yeah oops, mybe we should have left it like it was then childen with preexisting conditions would NEVER be covered. Then they would die, but thats ok as long as we dont have that Socalist Healthcare. HOW DARE these children with life threating conditons want insurance. HOW DARE THEY!!!!!! You people make me funckin sick.
But they did leave it like it was.
It doesn't matter because all that matters is that the bill passed to save Obama's presidency. A few children and old people dying is just the price for having such an AWESOME president!
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Yeah oops, mybe we should have left it like it was then childen with preexisting conditions would NEVER be covered. Then they would die, but thats ok as long as we dont have that Socalist Healthcare. HOW DARE these children with life threating conditons want insurance. HOW DARE THEY!!!!!! You people make me ****in sick
And you need to go stick your crank in a light socket.
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Yeah oops, mybe we should have left it like it was then childen with preexisting conditions would NEVER be covered. Then they would die, but thats ok as long as we dont have that Socalist Healthcare. HOW DARE these children with life threating conditons want insurance. HOW DARE THEY!!!!!! You people make me ****in sick
Oh for God's sake!!!
Now that you've shown your ignorance....
Kids are NOT denied care! ANYWHERE!!! All you have to do is take a child into a hospital emergency room and they will be treated for whatever is wrong with them!!!!
St Jude Hospital takes care of children with life threatening illnesses FOR FREE!!
Shriners' Hospitals - there are several - they specialize in burns, orthopedics - take care of children FOR FREE!!!
Children's Hospitals all over the country take care of children FOR FREE!!
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All you people do is bitch and bitch and ****in bitch about how horrible Obama is and how horrible the healthcare bill is but do you suggest anything to fix it? Well??? Health care premiums have risen an average of 29% a year the last 5 years in a row, more and more hard working american familys that the Repubs are always saying they support so much cant afford to insure themselves or thier kids. Hell i barely can myself And so far all I have heard from the right is fearmongering and hatred and flat out LIES no helpful suggestions no we will try to work with you on this, nope just political pandering and hatred and you can deny it all you want but we both know exactly why. The Senators and Congressmen that hate this biil so much have the best (Goverment Provided) healthcare in the country and the people that pay for them to keep thier jobs are big insurance companies and thier big campiagn donations. So you can give me all the Socialist bullshit you want but im not ****in buying it. The bill may not be perfect but it is a step in the right direction and it a hell of allot more that a Repub whitehouse did in the last eight years.
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And you need to go stick your crank in a light socket.
Man I have about used that straw on the toilet to the point I cannot take it anymore... need to pass it to someone else... Wheres the plumber at?
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All you people do is bitch and bitch and ****in bitch about how horrible Obama is and how horrible the healthcare bill is but do you suggest anything to fix it? Well??? Health care premiums have risen an average of 29% a year the last 5 years in a row, more and more hard working american familys that the Repubs are always saying they support so much cant afford to insure themselves or thier kids. Hell i barely can myself And so far all I have heard from the right is fearmongering and hatred and flat out LIES no helpful suggestions no we will try to work with you on this, nope just political pandering and hatred and you can deny it all you want but we both know exactly why. The Senators and Congressmen that hate this biil so much have the best (Goverment Provided) healthcare in the country and the people that pay for them to keep thier jobs are big insurance companies and thier big campiagn donations. So you can give me all the Socialist bullshit you want but im not ****in buying it. The bill may not be perfect but it is a step in the right direction and it a hell of allot more that a Repub whitehouse did in the last eight years.
Really, Billy? 29 percent per year? Please, show me where, or eat the ban hammer.
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Young William here is another one who needs a virtual bullet to the back of the skull.
Goodnight, Will. Tell your mother I sais hello.
:hammer:
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Young William here is another one who needs a virtual bullet to the back of the skull.
Goodnight, Will. Tell your mother I sais hello.
:hammer:
I already told her hello. So did the rest of the football/basketball/baseball teams.
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All you people do is bitch and bitch and ****in bitch about how horrible Obama is and how horrible the healthcare bill is but do you suggest anything to fix it? Well??? Health care premiums have risen an average of 29% a year the last 5 years in a row, more and more hard working american familys that the Repubs are always saying they support so much cant afford to insure themselves or thier kids. Hell i barely can myself And so far all I have heard from the right is fearmongering and hatred and flat out LIES no helpful suggestions no we will try to work with you on this, nope just political pandering and hatred and you can deny it all you want but we both know exactly why. The Senators and Congressmen that hate this biil so much have the best (Goverment Provided) healthcare in the country and the people that pay for them to keep thier jobs are big insurance companies and thier big campiagn donations. So you can give me all the Socialist bullshit you want but im not ****in buying it. The bill may not be perfect but it is a step in the right direction and it a hell of allot more that a Repub whitehouse did in the last eight years.
The Republicans have suggested tort reform as a start for years.
Do you know who is one of the biggest donors to the Democratic Party?
The American Trial Lawyers.
Gee....think that could have anything to do with the fact that not one sentence is in the Health Care Bill regarding tort reform?
Bet you are still waiting for that silver unicorn to show up on your front porch too.
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The bill may not be perfect but it is a step in the right direction and it a hell of allot more that a Repub whitehouse did in the last eight years.
Your right about one thing.. its a step in A direction, but not the right direction. The direction this boat is sailing towards is revolution. Perhaps you should go google three percenter. Welcome to I dont give a shit DONT TREAD ON ME!
Oh wait I wasnt supposed to say that... Ahem... Allow me to correct myself...
Koolaid is good, Obama loves us...
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The GOP offered real-world solutions and were ignored by the Democrat leadership in Congress. Tort reform went nowhere. Interstate insurance policies? Nothing. Removing expensive, mandated coverage from existing policies? Nada. The insurance companies and policies you're complaining about were created by the HMO Act written by Teddy Kennedy and his friends... they created the problem, not us. Before liberal Democrats interfered, a man could buy his own insurance without the government getting involved.
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Billy. Dipshit. Moron if ever there was one. Listen, and listen good.
This 2400-page monstrosity of an abortion does NOTHING (repeat, NOTHING) to deal with the COSTS of healthcare. Not a ****ing THING. All it does is mandate a whole shitpot more people get thrown into an already overburdened system and forces everyone else to take a bite of the shit sandwich in order to cover them. Problem is, when you have a finite commodity (and yes, healthcare is a COMMODITY, not a right) that is now expected to be applied to a lot more people, guess what's going to happen? The quality AND quantity of care applied to those who utilize the system also goes DOWN.
Costs go UP, quality and availability DOWN. Got it? Good.
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Billy. Dipshit. Moron if ever there was one. Listen, and listen good.
This 2400-page monstrosity of an abortion does NOTHING (repeat, NOTHING) to deal with the COSTS of healthcare. Not a ******* THING. All it does is mandate a whole shitpot more people get thrown into an already overburdened system and forces everyone else to take a bite of the shit sandwich in order to cover them. Problem is, when you have a finite commodity (and yes, healthcare is a COMMODITY, not a right) that is now expected to be applied to a lot more people, guess what's going to happen? The quality AND quantity of care applied to those who utilize the system also goes DOWN.
Costs go UP, quality and availability DOWN. Got it? Good.
Sparky you remember how you told me earlier I was letting the ri-tards get to me... Bro.... I think your soap box is bigger than mine... Im jealous. We need some redistribution here ... LOL!
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Sparky you remember how you told me earlier I was letting the ri-tards get to me... Bro.... I think your soap box is bigger than mine... Im jealous. We need some redistribution here ... LOL!
Sorry, my "soft skills" aren't exactly fully developed. Given my experience, never really was a big issue until I had to deal with civilians or women.
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All you people do is bitch and bitch and ****in bitch about how horrible Obama is and how horrible the healthcare bill is but do you suggest anything to fix it? Well??? Health care premiums have risen an average of 29% a year the last 5 years in a row, more and more hard working american familys that the Repubs are always saying they support so much cant afford to insure themselves or thier kids. Hell i barely can myself And so far all I have heard from the right is fearmongering and hatred and flat out LIES no helpful suggestions no we will try to work with you on this, nope just political pandering and hatred and you can deny it all you want but we both know exactly why. The Senators and Congressmen that hate this biil so much have the best (Goverment Provided) healthcare in the country and the people that pay for them to keep thier jobs are big insurance companies and thier big campiagn donations. So you can give me all the Socialist bullshit you want but im not ****in buying it. The bill may not be perfect but it is a step in the right direction and it a hell of allot more that a Repub whitehouse did in the last eight years.
It's spelled THEIR....and you're a dickhead
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Billy. Dipshit. Moron if ever there was one. Listen, and listen good.
This 2400-page monstrosity of an abortion does NOTHING (repeat, NOTHING) to deal with the COSTS of healthcare. Not a ******* THING. All it does is mandate a whole shitpot more people get thrown into an already overburdened system and forces everyone else to take a bite of the shit sandwich in order to cover them. Problem is, when you have a finite commodity (and yes, healthcare is a COMMODITY, not a right) that is now expected to be applied to a lot more people, guess what's going to happen? The quality AND quantity of care applied to those who utilize the system also goes DOWN.
Costs go UP, quality and availability DOWN. Got it? Good.
I do believe it does do one thing to lower costs...I think it's going to reduce Medicare payments pretty much across the board. Of course, we'll have doctors quitting, clinics closing, dialysis facilities going under, and people dying like flies...but it'll cost less money.
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No, actually, it won't even do that. The amount that "da gub'mint" PAYS will decline, but the taxes (i.e., costs to taxpayer) certainly won't go down, they'll just be shuffled off to other socialist bullshit pogroms against the elderly.
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No, actually, it won't even do that. The amount that "da gub'mint" PAYS will decline, but the taxes (i.e., costs to taxpayer) certainly won't go down, they'll just be shuffled off to other socialist bullshit pogroms against the elderly.
Your quite accurate but many out there miss the greater picture. After people realize that much of the money "saved" was actually double counted a few times there are no savings at all.
Oh and lets not forget how company friendly this HCB is. AT&T says they will only lose 1 billion in revenue, now if that is not job friendly I dont know what is. Hey they cost all of these evil greedy private corporations money nothing sensible registers in their peanut brain that unemployment will go up, tax revenue down and consumer spending down.
Its all insanity. Look at what they are now doing with the mortgages. The whole mortgage relief plan is an utter failure but was something wrong with Obamas plan... hell no how could that be its impossible the messiah was wrong, instead its the peoples fault so now they have to outright take over huge portions of the debt and decrease the amount owed by individuals. They actually think this will work.... :hammer:
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No, actually, it won't even do that. The amount that "da gub'mint" PAYS will decline, but the taxes (i.e., costs to taxpayer) certainly won't go down, they'll just be shuffled off to other socialist bullshit pogroms against the elderly.
After enough die, medical costs will go down...though you're right about cost to taxpayers. They'll always find ways to spend what they confiscate from us.
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The Republicans have suggested tort reform as a start for years.
Do you know who is one of the biggest donors to the Democratic Party?
The American Trial Lawyers.
Gee....think that could have anything to do with the fact that not one sentence is in the Health Care Bill regarding tort reform?
Bet you are still waiting for that silver unicorn to show up on your front porch too.
To be fair, they could have passed Tort reform the 6 years they had control. They didn't.
Having said that, a true health care reform bill could have been authored in < 20 pages.
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Billy apparently thinks no children will die once universal healthcare takes affect....Billy is what happens when you drink too much of the White House :koolaid:
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Yeah oops, mybe we should have left it like it was then childen with preexisting conditions would NEVER be covered. Then they would die, but thats ok as long as we dont have that Socalist Healthcare. HOW DARE these children with life threating conditons want insurance. HOW DARE THEY!!!!!! You people make me ****** sick
Hey you mouth breathing window licking retard. The kids were ALREADY covered before this POS was shoved down our throats.