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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on March 21, 2010, 06:35:53 PM
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-21-10 05:52 PM
Original message
Text of pending EO re: Abortion - from the White House
the link is here
A snippet:
ENSURING ENFORCEMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF ABORTION RESTRICTIONS IN THE PATIENT PROTECTION AND AFFORDABLE CARE ACT
By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including the “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act†(approved March __, 2010), I hereby order as follows:
Section 1. Policy.
Following the recent passage of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (“the Actâ€), it is necessary to establish an adequate enforcement mechanism to ensure that Federal funds are not used for abortion services (except in cases of rape or incest, or when the life of the woman would be endangered), consistent with a longstanding Federal statutory restriction that is commonly known as the Hyde Amendment. The purpose of this Executive Order is to establish a comprehensive, government-wide set of policies and procedures to achieve this goal and to make certain that all relevant actors—Federal officials, state officials (including insurance regulators) and health care providers—are aware of their responsibilities, new and old.
The Act maintains current Hyde Amendment restrictions governing abortion policy and extends those restrictions to the newly-created health insurance exchanges. Under the Act, longstanding Federal laws to protect conscience (such as the Church Amendment, 42 U.S.C. §300a-7, and the Weldon Amendment, Pub. L. No. 111-8, §508(d)(1) (2009)) remain intact and new protections prohibit discrimination against health care facilities and health care providers because of an unwillingness to provide, pay for, provide coverage of, or refer for abortions.
The rest is at link.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7974726
Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-21-10 05:57 PM
Response to Original message
1. "segregation guidelines" - Interesting word choice.
I hereby direct the Director of OMB and the Secretary of HHS to develop, within 180 days of the date of this Executive Order, a model set of segregation guidelines for state health insurance commissioners to use when determining whether exchange plans are complying with the Act’s segregation requirements, established in Section 1303 of the Act, for enrollees receiving Federal financial assistance. The guidelines shall also offer technical information that states should follow to conduct independent regular audits of insurance companies that participate in the health insurance exchanges. In developing these model guidelines, the Director of OMB and the Secretary of HHS shall consult with executive agencies and offices that have relevant expertise in accounting principles, including, but not limited to, the Department of the Treasury, and with the Government Accountability Office. Upon completion of those model guidelines, the Secretary of HHS should promptly initiate a rulemaking to issue regulations, which will have the force of law, to interpret the Act’s segregation requirements, and shall provide guidance to state health insurance commissioners on how to comply with the model guidelines.
suffragette (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-21-10 06:37 PM
Response to Reply #1
7. segregation guidelines and requirements
That does stand out, doesn't it?
Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-21-10 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. Yeah, most definitely.
Surely there was a thesaurus around somewhere?
Perhaps it's a legally required use?
Very strange.
The "smartest president ever" needs a thesaurus?
riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-21-10 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #8
9. So are you thinking the insertion of that word will negate his EO?
That Obama has deliberately issued a segregationist order that codifies inequality?
No he deliberately did it to piss you DUmmies off.
riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-21-10 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. Trying to wrap my brain around Obama, our nation's first black president
writing an Executive Order basically "segregating" and codifying inequality for half the population of the US.
Do I have this right?
And what does that say about how low this President would stoop to get this bill?
He did spend 20 years listening to a racist preacher.
Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-21-10 07:14 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. As marshall wrote below,
he can rescind the EO within minutes of the vote.
I'm not really ready to throw my hands in the air, yet.
Um, yeah, he could. He's stupid, but not DUmmie Stoopid.
riderinthestorm (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-21-10 07:17 PM
Original message
Okay so maybe he does do that (not holding my breath)
Aren't you just a bit staggered at the blatant hypocrisy? This was the first time I actually read the EO and it's pretty damn weird.
And the message to women, women's groups, women's rights... pretty ugly.
Maybe he's a mean drunk, and hates women when he drinks. There were also those "gay rumors" about Lord Zero.
marshall (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-21-10 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #9
19. He can negate the EO five minutes after Stupak votes
He doesn't have to resort to using double meaning code words.
You DUmmies see double meanings and code words everywhere. :mental:
suffragette (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-21-10 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #8
10. Feels like a new century - a new segregation law
Frankly stunning that they would choose that language.
I wonder if it's used elsewhere in the bill and is a referent here.
Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-21-10 05:57 PM
Response to Original message
2. How big a bus do you need to get 150 plus million people under it? n/t
Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-21-10 05:59 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. It would depend how pregnant they are? n/t
:evillaugh:
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So, In short, the primitives are hoping the president is lying to get what he wants -- Once again proving that what the primitives accuse others of doing, they do themselves.
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marshall (1000+ posts) Sun Mar-21-10 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #9
19. He can negate the EO five minutes after Stupak votes
He doesn't have to resort to using double meaning code words.
And the DUmmies would be fine with it. In their world it is OK to say anything you need to to get your support. You shouldn't have to follow up on anything just PROMISE it and then it's all good.
KC