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Title: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: jinxmchue on March 17, 2010, 12:46:26 PM
This made me smile:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7927248

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Cetacea
Tue Mar-16-10 07:55 AM
Original message
Perfume banned in Detroit.
   
Edited on Tue Mar-16-10 08:43 AM by Cetacea
edit: please indicate if you are pro/anti smoking bans in your replies if you like. Thanks


" Three Detroit city buildings will ban workers from wearing perfume, cologne, aftershave lotions and even deodorant.

This comes as a result of a settlement in a federal lawsuit.


In 2008, a city planner filed a lawsuit claiming a co-worker's perfume made it challenging for her to do her job. Susan McBride filed her lawsuit under the American with Disabilities Act, because she said he co-workers' fragrances make it hard for her to breath.

She was awarded $100,000.

"One of the things the city is going to have to figure out is how they enforce the policy they've agreed to," said attorney John Holmquist. "The city is going to have to get involved in hygiene, I'd guess you'd say, which no employer wants to get involved in."

A notice will also go in the new employee handbook and be written in the Americans with Disabilities Act training.."

I give them a month being around sweaty, smelly coworkers before they decide to retract the policy.

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The_Commonist  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)
Tue Mar-16-10 08:27 AM
Response to Original message
1. ...perfume, cologne, aftershave lotions and even deodorant?
   
This sounds almost as dumb as the bill here in New York to ban all salt from restaurant cooking.
The solution is worse than the problem...

Just the tip of the iceberg.

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NeedleCast  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)
Tue Mar-16-10 10:00 AM
Response to Reply #17
22. The fact that you don't think it's insane to tell other peopel what they can and can't wear
   
bothers me a great deal. But hey, it's all about you and your sensative nose. You're a special person and you should be able to dictate what other people around you smell like.

The hardcore liberals demand that no one tell them what they can or cannot wear, but they see nothing wrong with dictating to others what they can or cannot wear.

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liberalhistorian  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)
Tue Mar-16-10 12:23 PM
Response to Reply #27
51. Exactly. People have the right to use and wear what
   
they want, but that right ends when it physically effects someone else. You do not have endless rights to do whatever you want regardless of the physical effects on others, period. It's mind-bogglingly selfish to think otherwise.

Everything you do physically affects (not "effects," nitwit) other people.  Breathing affects others.  Care to stop breathing?

The infighting continues for dozens and dozens of posts.  It's quite entertaining.
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 17, 2010, 12:58:37 PM
It makes me physically uncomfortable when I see someone like UGP, or the Las Vegas Lardass, or any limp-wristed swishy queer. Can I sue?
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: USA4ME on March 17, 2010, 01:03:42 PM
Quote from:
Three Detroit city buildings will ban workers from wearing ..... deodorant.

Next, expect people to sue because the the smell of people who don't wear dedorant makes it hard for them to breath.  Or even if they wear scentless dedorant, someone will get a doctor (or several) to testify their patient can still smell it and the fragrance makes it hard for them to breath.

Liberals are so stupid.

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Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: The Village Idiot on March 17, 2010, 01:06:20 PM
libhist is a moron.

One person can force thousands to suffer from the ill effects of smelly people in order not to be effected by aftershave??

1 vs. thousands.
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on March 17, 2010, 01:07:39 PM
I considered bringing that thread over yesterday, but it was getting a little weird.  They even started throwing the smoking arguments into the mix.
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: Duke Nukum on March 17, 2010, 01:08:54 PM
This is an amazing story because I didn't know there were any workers left in Detroit.  Is this just a ploy to drive the few remaining workers out?
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: The Village Idiot on March 17, 2010, 01:12:28 PM
This is an amazing story because I didn't know there were any workers left in Detroit.  Is this just a ploy to drive the few remaining workers out?

City government workers.
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 17, 2010, 01:12:54 PM
This is an amazing story because I didn't know there were any workers left in Detroit.  Is this just a ploy to drive the few remaining workers out?
These are city employees. They still have tens of thousands of those. You are paying their salaries.
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: diesel driver on March 17, 2010, 01:36:32 PM
It makes me physically uncomfortable when I see someone like UGP, or the Las Vegas Lardass, or any limp-wristed swishy queer. Can I sue?


No, because that would be (fill in the blank:  racist, bigoted, homophobic, etc.)
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: Karin on March 17, 2010, 01:43:56 PM
I enjoy a good DUmmie fight, so I went over.  Right off the bat, at post #3, DB has to pile on a snarky attack:

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DainBramaged  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-16-10 08:31 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. Try living with inhalant allergies or not being able to breathe wen a perfume laced
 coworker walks in a room and you have to use your inhaler to survive an attack.

Walk in our shoes before you so intelligently (?) criticize those who don't live as perfect a life as you do.

How can these people stand each other?  They willingly hang out together.

I have to say, for some reason, the spelling is atrocious on this particular thread.  

Something they can agree on, finally:

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Odin2005  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-16-10 08:42 AM

8. Ban Axe body spray at least, that shit's awful.
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  Cetacea  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-16-10 08:45 AM
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9. lol. true.
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 mopinko  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-16-10 11:48 AM
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36. tru dat.
 one son was using that to cover up the smell of pot. i told him i liked the smell of pot a lot more than i liked that stuff, and that it didn't make me wheeze.  
  ::)

Mother of the year.  

TSS weighs in with a comment he thinks is funny, because he follows it with an smiley:

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The Straight Story  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-16-10 03:46 PM
Response to Original message
61. They should ban it in bars. People should not be forced to go to bars, sadly many are

Apropos of nothing.  I just brought it over because he's my pet DUmmie.  

Pronsyrup came in and mixed it up with a snarlfest.  Nothing resolved, everybody went away pissed off.  

Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: Tucker on March 17, 2010, 01:45:06 PM
Next, expect people to sue because the the smell of people who don't wear dedorant makes it hard for them to breath.  Or even if they wear scentless dedorant, someone will get a doctor (or several) to testify their patient can still smell it and the fragrance makes it hard for them to breath.

Liberals are so stupid.

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Oh I don't know. One of em got 100 thou out of the deal.
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: AprilRazz on March 17, 2010, 02:00:28 PM
I think there should be a nation wide ban on Patchouli. I hate the smell of that crap and it would drive the primitives wild. :rotf:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=patchouli
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An annoying stank masking scent (commonly a scented oil) that subliminally causes internal cringing for members of the bathing community...A.K.A. - "Pseudo Bath", "Trustafarian Tramp Serum", "Hippie Stink" , "Soap Substitute", "Dopehead Dry-Clean", "Coward Shower", "Dank Stank", "Wanker-stank", "Hygiene Hi-jinks", "Greatful Dread", "Granola Grout", "Magnolia Mud-flap", "Drag-rat Sludge Fudge" ...Did I miss one?
"There goes another Trustafarian Granola. That patchouli scent almost ALWAYS precedes pretentious hygienic procrastination and self-righteous drivel !"
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Hippie perfume.

An oil worn as perfume by dirty hippies in lieu of showering or bathing in any way. Used to mask the scent of marijuana and week old body odor, but usually it merely mixes with the scent to form a new, BO/Patchouli combo that can repulse even those who are olfactorally challenged, except for hippies, who love it.
Fred: I can't go to the war protest because of all the Patchouli oil. It makes me gag.
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: dutch508 on March 17, 2010, 02:02:53 PM
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The Straight Story  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-16-10 03:46 PM
Response to Original message
61. They should ban it in bars. People should not be forced to go to bars, sadly many are


WTF? Where are these people being forced to go to bars? Are they your dates people you conned to meet up with????
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: USA4ME on March 17, 2010, 02:12:50 PM
Oh I don't know. One of em got 100 thou out of the deal.

True.  But ask them and the one's who approve of this will tell you that is where the lawsuits ends.  They have no idea they just opened Pandora's Box.  They never do on any of the issues for which they press.  The idea of a slippery slope into unintended consequences doesn't even come into play with them.

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Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: The Village Idiot on March 17, 2010, 02:13:07 PM
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The Straight Story  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-16-10 03:46 PM
Response to Original message
61. They should ban it in bars. People should not be forced to go to bars, sadly many are


lol!!!

People are forced, FORCED, to go to bars??? What is this idiot talking about??
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: USA4ME on March 17, 2010, 02:14:53 PM


lol!!!

People are forced, FORCED, to go to bars??? What is this idiot talking about??

Believe it or not, he's trying to mock the ruling, but he's just not smart enough to know how.

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Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: The Village Idiot on March 17, 2010, 02:16:24 PM
That is not even close to being good satire.
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: SSG Snuggle Bunny on March 17, 2010, 02:21:21 PM
Perfumes, colognes, etc make me sneeze but I found a way to make it more manageable.


"Holy crap! You stink!"
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: Celtic Rose on March 17, 2010, 02:34:00 PM
I think there should be a nation wide ban on Patchouli. I hate the smell of that crap and it would drive the primitives wild. :rotf:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=patchoulior

Agree 100%.  Nasty smelling stuff. 
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: PatriotGame on March 17, 2010, 03:29:46 PM
City government workers.
EMPLOYEES!!!!!
E-M-P-L-O-Y-E-E-S!
There are no such thing as a government worker, other than the Military. They are employees. I have worked with literally thousands of them and they are employes!
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: Flame on March 17, 2010, 03:32:18 PM
EMPLOYEES!!!!!
E-M-P-L-O-Y-E-E-S!
There are no such thing as a government worker, other than the Military. They are employees. I have worked with literally thousands of them and they are employes!

hmmm...guess I'll have to tell my husband that he isn't really working all those hours he spends at work then.
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: The Village Idiot on March 17, 2010, 03:37:29 PM
EMPLOYEES!!!!!
E-M-P-L-O-Y-E-E-S!
There are no such thing as a government worker, other than the Military. They are employees. I have worked with literally thousands of them and they are employes!

Your right these aren't workers, workers would WORK. These are government taxeating drones buzzing around their nests.
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 17, 2010, 03:51:15 PM
Perfume closes up my nose...I can't breath....can I get a disability check? [du/mode]
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: MrsSmith on March 17, 2010, 05:38:57 PM
Perfumes, colognes, etc make me sneeze but I found a way to make it more manageable.


"Holy crap! You stink!"
Some perfumes bother me a lot, too...fruit scented ones aren't too bad, but many of the flowery ones are horrible.

Everyone knows that we have a little tube from our ears to our throat...but when that thing itches, there is no way to scratch it.  Ditto with the rest of the mucous membranes in a person's head.  You've never been miserable until the INSIDE of your head itches like a thousand mosquito bites...and then all those membranes start to swell up, and then hurt.  Talk about a headache!  And toothache...in EVERY tooth.  

We have a couple employees that must bath in perfume...I swear you can smell them from 100 yards.   :banghead:  


Of course, I'm never going to sue my employer, or push for laws against wearing perfume...I'm perfectly capable of simply leaving the area when someone really reeks.   :whatever:
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 17, 2010, 05:46:42 PM
OH NOES!!!!...just had a horrible thought....we'll all soon be.....French.
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: Chris on March 17, 2010, 05:52:13 PM
The only time I have ever complained about someone's perfume was a waitress at a restaurant.  This girl must have been trying to cover some serious stank, but it completely turned me off my food. 
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: BlueStateSaint on March 18, 2010, 08:33:46 AM
We have a couple employees that must bath in perfume...I swear you can smell them from 100 yards.   :banghead:  

When I worked at the lab, we had a guy who used to come around every six months and certify that our balances were working within some reeeeeally small tolerance levels.  I used to absolutely hate having him come into my lab, as his cologne was pervasive enough to mess with the gas chromatography dectectors that I was using (he seemed to bathe in it).  Not a lot, but enough so I could notice (below reportable levels).  If he had walked through the hallway in the last half-hour, though, I would know.
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: debk on March 18, 2010, 09:23:23 AM
Some perfumes bother me a lot, too...fruit scented ones aren't too bad, but many of the flowery ones are horrible.

Everyone knows that we have a little tube from our ears to our throat...but when that thing itches, there is no way to scratch it.  Ditto with the rest of the mucous membranes in a person's head.  You've never been miserable until the INSIDE of your head itches like a thousand mosquito bites...and then all those membranes start to swell up, and then hurt.  Talk about a headache!  And toothache...in EVERY tooth.  

We have a couple employees that must bath in perfume...I swear you can smell them from 100 yards.   :banghead:  


Of course, I'm never going to sue my employer, or push for laws against wearing perfume...I'm perfectly capable of simply leaving the area when someone really reeks.   :whatever:


I'm with you, Mrs S...most perfumes or men's colognes, just about knock me out. Either with the headache and throat closing or some just make me feel flat out nauseous.

I don't like the patchouli either...but the worst was back when I was in college in the early 70's and for about 10 years after when both men and women were wearing "musk", or musk-based cologne/perfume.

That stuff was just flat out nasty....

My ex mother in law couldn't put perfume on the normal way....you know...a dab here or there. She would spray a humongous cloud of the stuff...then walk through it. Her reason? By doing it that way...she never got too much on in one spot.

No....she didn't get too much on in one spot...she got too much on all over her body.... :o ::)
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: happy1ga on March 18, 2010, 02:19:08 PM
You beat me to it. I remember back in 72 we went on vacation. Turned out a whole gang of hippies were staying where we were. I asked what was that smell. My older cousin said-BO, patchouli, pot, and musk oil. I swear I have never forgotten that smell. What a great idea to have that particular smell emanating from government offices. Can't wait to go visit!

And I think these people really will be stinking up Harry Reid's Congress this summer. The weather is getting warmer/ :-)
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: vesta111 on March 19, 2010, 07:42:46 AM
You beat me to it. I remember back in 72 we went on vacation. Turned out a whole gang of hippies were staying where we were. I asked what was that smell. My older cousin said-BO, patchouli, pot, and musk oil. I swear I have never forgotten that smell. What a great idea to have that particular smell emanating from government offices. Can't wait to go visit!

And I think these people really will be stinking up Harry Reid's Congress this summer. The weather is getting warmer/ :-)

Some professions request their customers do not wear scent.  Among them are,  Dentists, Doctors, Nurses and Eye Doctors. 

Smell is one of the big senses, it can bring back memory's good and bad and warn us of danger.

Some perfumes can cause migraines, and or runny eyes or nausea to others.

There are dozens of brands of no scent deodorant on the market. No scent hair spray etc.

I believe problems pop up when one has 4 or more scented products on their body then apply perfume that will combine with the other products to become noxious to others. 
Title: Re: Detroit bans perfume = big infight at DUmp
Post by: lastparker on March 19, 2010, 10:20:46 AM
This is yet another case of the special few wanting the privileges of the normal many.  Like the Mothers who demand that their profoundly mentally challenged child or kid with serious behavioral disorders be "mainstreamed" in so as to disrupt the education of every other kid in the class.  But she doesn't care about the rest of those kids, as long as her Johnny feels happy every day.

In reality, those kids would be far better off in a classroom with others like them, so they can learn together and socialize with kids who have the same challenges.  Suggest that to a liberal, though, and you're just trying to "hide them away in a cage".

As for patchouli, it was used on me in a massage at a spa.  Didn't know what it was, and it smelled OK at first -kind of woodsy in a nice way.  By the time I was driving home, I was looking everywhere in the car to see what was going moldy.