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Title: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: Alpha Mare on March 15, 2010, 10:03:43 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4308013

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Synicus Maximus (317 posts)      Tue Mar-16-10 01:56 AM
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Obama: Premiums Will Decrease 3000% So You Should Get A Raise When H'care Is Passed

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FrenchieCat  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-16-10 01:58 AM
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3. Maybe he mispoke. 
 
He isn't dumb and ****-face stupid like Bush,
but I'm sure he isn't perfect either.

Wish I had less to worry about
beyond a video of the President having spoken a million words,
mispeaking on one. Kind of like in accounting, that is not even material,
in the larger scheme of things.

Some might even call it petty.

(but this will be like bait for the one-liner haters, I'm sure!)
 
  WTF? Glad she's not my accountant.

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Demeter  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-16-10 02:05 AM
Response to Reply #7
8. Which Goes to Show He Is an Economic Idiot
 As I have been coming to suspect over the last 14 months.
 

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pundaint  (1000+ posts)      Tue Mar-16-10 02:14 AM
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11. OMG He has even taken on the Bush Smirk. Look at his face when he starts lying about how tough 
 he's being on the Insurance companies. This is really sad. He holds us in such low regard.
  Someone's catching on.

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Dream Girl  (51 posts)      Tue Mar-16-10 02:39 AM
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23. Every chance you get, huh? 
 You came in shortly after the inauguration didn't you?
Says the noob.  :whatever:

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azygous (80 posts)      Tue Mar-16-10 02:22 AM
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14. Remember Baghdad Bob?
 Obama's starting to look like that Iraqi spokesman at the fall of Baghdad insisting until the very end that Iraq was winning.

Credibility. What's that?
azygous
 
 FrenchieCat  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-16-10 02:25 AM
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16. I think it is your credibility that should be questioned 
 
You smell like troll resurrected.
 
:hammer:
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: delilahmused on March 15, 2010, 10:17:28 PM
If they keep this up there's going to have to be another purge.

Cindie
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: jukin on March 15, 2010, 11:21:12 PM
One can only offer up free Skittle shitting unicorns once and not deliver with the DUmbasses.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: diesel driver on March 16, 2010, 06:38:49 AM
I wonder how many of the DUmbasses realize if the Zerocare bill is passed, the fees, taxes, levies, etc., start as soon as the ink dries on Zero's signature, BUT, not one damned dime of benefits will be paid out until 2014....
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: JohnnyReb on March 16, 2010, 07:08:07 AM
I wonder how many of the DUmbasses realize if the Zerocare bill is passed, the fees, taxes, levies, etc., start as soon as the ink dries on Zero's signature, BUT, not one damned dime of benefits will be paid out until 2014....

Yep, that's the "not one damn dime" theory in a nutshell.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: debk on March 16, 2010, 07:29:14 AM
I wonder how many of the DUmbasses realize if the Zerocare bill is passed, the fees, taxes, levies, etc., start as soon as the ink dries on Zero's signature, BUT, not one damned dime of benefits will be paid out until 2014....


Sadly...I think there's a huge majority who have no clue, that the taxes start immediately but the benefits don't start for 4 years.

All these people that are cheering this HCB forward are going to be going around with dazed looks on their faces when the reality smacks them in the face ....that they've been had once again by Obama and his merry band of idiots....

I'm sure they will still manage to find a way to blame it on Bush...
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: Karin on March 16, 2010, 07:41:39 AM
Now this is a thread I can recommend rowing over to see.  It's not too long, but the misery is palpable.  And no, nobody blames Bush oddly enough.  They sound slightly wide-awake, and backing the bus over the messiah.  Poor Stenchy is doing the best she can, but the bloom is off.  Word's getting around about the delay in benefits. 
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: franksolich on March 16, 2010, 07:53:18 AM
Now this is a thread I can recommend rowing over to see.  It's not too long, but the misery is palpable.  And no, nobody blames Bush oddly enough.  They sound slightly wide-awake, and backing the bus over the messiah.  Poor Stenchy is doing the best she can, but the bloom is off.  Word's getting around about the delay in benefits. 

Please check your personal messages, madam; we need to start exchanging recipes for chicken soup.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 16, 2010, 08:36:32 AM
Sadly...I think there's a huge majority who have no clue, that the taxes start immediately but the benefits don't start for 4 years.

The biggest travesty in the whole thing is that it is structured this way ONLY so the CBO could look out the required 10 years AND NO FURTHER to conclude the program could be paid for, without a word about what happens in the 11th year or thereafter.  The whole thing is based on a package of damned lies, but the actual cost of it is the granddaddy of them all!

 :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: BEG on March 16, 2010, 08:53:22 AM
The "benefits" from the POS START in 2014 but they don't become in full effect for several years after that.  Dems are snake oil salesmen.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 16, 2010, 09:03:00 AM
The "benefits" from the POS START in 2014 but they don't become in full effect for several years after that.  Dems are snake oil salesmen.

I tend to think they are more like thieves, since with snake oil salesman, at least you get a bottle with something in it for your money, possibly even snake oil.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: USA4ME on March 16, 2010, 09:08:15 AM
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FrenchieCat

Wish I had less to worry about beyond a video of the President having spoken a million words mispeaking on one.  Some might even call it petty.

Glad to see that you admit you and your fellow primtives acted in a petty fashion when discussing times when Bush misspoke, which you did.  Well, you would be able to see that's what you did, if you weren't so "dumb and ****-face stupid" like Dear Leader.

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Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: Alpha Mare on March 16, 2010, 10:12:58 AM
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Roland99  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-16-10 03:12 AM
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26. So, $250/mo? That's about what many employers "kick in"
 and yet premiums will remain the same, if not higher.

And, hey, employees will get that $250 in their paychecks, right?

I wish I only paid $250 per employee.  We cover the full premium.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: Carl on March 16, 2010, 10:39:59 AM
I still think a vast number of them think they are going to get something for nothing.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: IassaFTots on March 16, 2010, 10:44:19 AM
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Roland99  (1000+ posts)        Tue Mar-16-10 03:12 AM
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26. So, $250/mo? That's about what many employers "kick in"
 and yet premiums will remain the same, if not higher.

And, hey, employees will get that $250 in their paychecks, right?

Oh lordy lordy!  I want some of his dope.  The LEAST we pay is $327, PEPM  (per employee, per month)  and the MOST we pay is $1432. 
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: Ralph Wiggum on March 16, 2010, 10:48:41 AM
I still think a vast number of them think they are going to get something for nothing.

I don't think anyone knows for sure what they're getting, other than the shaft.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: GOBUCKS on March 16, 2010, 01:21:07 PM
I still think a vast number of them think they are going to get something for nothing.
I'm not sure they care that much. They know any bill the muslim can pass will increase taxes on people who work. In the DUmmy world, that is an  example of a good thing. The taxes don't affect them, so if they get anything at all out of it, it's something for nothing. Democrats don't look at the world the way normal people do. Their main motivation for HCR is simply to take money away from productive people, i.e., Republicans. What happens to the money after that is a secondary concern in the DUmmy world.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: Freeper on March 16, 2010, 06:28:25 PM
3000 percent? Maybe he meant an increase of 3000%.
Numbers sure aren't Obama's friend, 57 states, 3000% decrease in premiums, and my favorite won't add one dime to the deficit.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: Tucker on March 16, 2010, 06:40:53 PM
If they keep this up there's going to have to be another purge.

Cindie

I don't know 1/2 the primitives as it is.
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: diesel driver on March 17, 2010, 06:53:20 AM
3000 percent? Maybe he meant an increase of 3000%.
Numbers sure aren't Obama's friend, 57 states, 3000% decrease in premiums, and my favorite won't add one dime to the deficit.

He might be right about HCR not adding "one dime to the deficit"....

It's going to add about $6 trillion to the deficit....
Title: Re: DUmmies Discuss Today's HC Lies
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on March 17, 2010, 09:47:58 AM
Well, the 'Not one dime' part is true, in a Democrat sort of way, because it won't be one single dime, it'll be 60 trillion of them.