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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Tucker on March 15, 2010, 11:54:27 AM
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-14-10 11:08 PM
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So I Bought My 16 year Old Son
his first box of condoms... :P
Now I just hope he doesn't need to use them for a while, but he said he needed them and well...
:scared: would rather not be a grandparent just yet
Shakes head.
darkstar3 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-14-10 11:22 PM
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6. Well,
if you really don't want him to use them yet, you could always sit him down and tell him about how kinky you and your spouse like it. :)
Then again, you may have to pay for therapy afterward...
Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-14-10 11:51 PM
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9. Good for you!!
My son is also 16, and I gave him his first box a couple of Christmases ago. Boy you should have seen his shocked face, lol! I told him that it was strictly so he could get used to the concept, not that I was encouraging any sexual activity.
Which would make him 14.
HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Mon Mar-15-10 09:26 AM
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12. We gave them to our daughters as soon as boys entered the scene.
So far I don't think they've been used, but we made it clear that replacement supplies would be available with no questions asked.
Tramp.
I see they're raising their kids with a set of high morals. Why condoms though! Don't they just get rid of inconvenienced pregnancies with an abortion. Don't they consider that a badge of honor?
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Parent of the year candidates, one and all. :sarcasm:
You couldn't tell a kid "Go out and get busy" any more clearly if you rented a damn' billboard. Talking to them about safe sex, sure, but handing them a box of rubbers is a whole 'nother thing.
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So did you tell him that they can break?
Did you tell him that if they do break and the girl becomes pregnant that he has just given that girl complete control over his life?
That he will have absolutely no say over whether she kills his child or not?
That he will be totally bound to the girl for the rest of his life if they conceive a child and she chooses to raise the child? Totally her choice, he has zero rights?
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And as much as the feminazis want to wish it away, the double standard does exist, and a girl can be labeled a slut and a whore for as long as she stays in town. It's the absolute reality. She'll likely become a barrag, and then the jokes behind her back will get crueler and crueler. There's nothing cute or pretty or sexy about a used-up 45-year old slut.
Self-respect is sexy at any age.
The boys also need to know about sexual criminal labelling/notification laws, as well as jail time. Time to grow up and be parents, DUmmies. These kids aren't your buddies.
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...and he promptly covered all the bananas in the house with them, grabbed a tube of K-Y Jelly and went to see his girlfriend.
Hey....he is the offspring of a couple of DUmmies you know.
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...and he promptly covered all the bananas in the house with them, grabbed a tube of K-Y Jelly and went to see his girlfriend.
Hey....he is the offspring of a couple of DUmmies you know.
Okay but why only bananas? Variety is the spice of life and the produce section is full of organic toys in all shapes and sizes.
Cindie
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I have a 14 yr old boy and that "parent" who bragged that they gave their son a box for Christmas when he was then 14 makes me sick to my stomach and furious. :censored: Probably gave him a nickel bag in his stocking as well . . .
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The boy in question is a step son.
I'll bet mom doesn't know. Bragging on the DUmp made him feel like a cool dad.
*puke*
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My daughter's "birth control" will be a Winchester 94. Any prospective boyfriends will know this.
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Okay but why only bananas? Variety is the spice of life and the produce section is full of organic toys in all shapes and sizes.
Cindie
It's a DUmmy household. They want the peels. :lmao:
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Tell him if he is old enough to have sex he is old enough to get a job and move out and buy his own condoms.
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Okay but why only bananas? Variety is the spice of life and the produce section is full of organic toys in all shapes and sizes.
Cindie
So that's why women spend so much time in the produce section....checking for firmness and stuff. :-) Live and learn.
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There's no need to procure BC for a 16 yr old in this day and age. It's not the 50s anymore, DUmmies. They most likely can lay hands on 4 or 5 different pregnancy prevention methods. The question really is-will they use them? Answer-hit and miss. BECAUSE THEY ARE TEENAGERS!
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There's no need to procure BC for a 16 yr old in this day and age. It's not the 50s anymore, DUmmies. They most likely can lay hands on 4 or 5 different pregnancy prevention methods. The question really is-will they use them? Answer-hit and miss. BECAUSE THEY ARE TEENAGERS!
Because they are immature and cannot handle the consequences of such actions. Its retarded for parents to give in to pop-culture instead of being parents.
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Because they are immature and cannot handle the consequences of such actions. Its retarded for parents to give in to pop-culture instead of being parents.
Do you have kids?
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Do you have kids?
Thank Gawd No.
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Thank Gawd No.
One thing I've learned after being a parent for almost 31 years.....what you say you or your children will do, what you say you or your children will never do ....very often turn out to be something different when reality hits.
It's very very easy to say what should or shouldn't be done or offer an opinion....when you are not the parent.
It's usually a good idea to remember that not everyone will wear the same shoes and/or walk the same path as you....or your non-existant child. :wink:
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Go ahead and sign your kids up for kiddie porn or whatever. I think parents should try their best to teach their kids morals and giving in to immorality is wrong.
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Sure kids should be taught right from wrong. I was, sure most of you were. The problem comes when people exercise free will. I don't agree with providing your teen with BC. That says "I condone your actions." My point was kids know more about BC at 14 than I did at 21. And they have massive access to it. It all boils down to whether they bother to use it.
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My point was kids know more about BC at 14 than I did at 21. And they have massive access to it. It all boils down to whether they bother to use it.
Our culture has stopped letting kids be kids. They are NOT ready.
I am sick and tired of being forgiving. I pray that all porn stars and Hollywierdos and politicians just DIE!!!
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Happy1ga, that's pretty much where I am; whether kids actually become sexually active, despite the massive overexposure to sex in modern culture, still seems to vary hugely even within a family, at least based on my own experience.
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The Ayatollah says sex with babies is okay...
http://www.uncoverage.net/2010/03/the-ayatollah-khomeinis-booksex-with-children-and-animals/
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(http://tenasillahe.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/steve-martin.jpg)
OK, hey. GranPaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa bought a rubber.
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One thing I've learned after being a parent for almost 31 years.....what you say you or your children will do, what you say you or your children will never do ....very often turn out to be something different when reality hits.
It's very very easy to say what should or shouldn't be done or offer an opinion....when you are not the parent.
It's usually a good idea to remember that not everyone will wear the same shoes and/or walk the same path as you....or your non-existant child. :wink:
I agree Deb. My best friend in high school got pregnant at 18 (just graduated high school). The only difference between her and me is that I got on birth control by myself before it happened to me. I was dating my husband (then boyfriend) since I was 15. I went to planned parenthood by myself (when I was 17) with out my Mom knowing. I was terrified to talk to her about it. My Mom didn't have the "sex" talk with me like I do with my kids. I have told them all that you can't "take it back" if you make a mistake with someone you don't really love, there is no "do over". I have discussed the moral reason for not having sex as well as the medical and mental reasons not to have it at a young age. That being said, I am not so arrogant to think that my talks with them are fool proof but I do know that they come to me and ask me questions that I would never dreamed to have asked my Mom back in the day. Time will tell if I am handling it the right way. If my daughters came to me asking to get birth control I would get them birth control. I would have failed in my approach in the sex talk department but I wouldn't say no and end up with my daughter no longer communicating with me or her getting pregnant in high school. My son just turned 21 and is in college, I had the same talks with him that I have had with my two daughters.
I constantly teach my kids "right from wrong" FGL. It's an everyday thing, you just don't have one sex talk and chalk it up to being taken care of. When issues pop up in everyday life you use those times as "teachable moments" (to quote Obama). Be open to your kids about all things and they will feel free to discuss anything with you. Count yourself lucky FGL that you don't have kids because I'm afraid they would disappoint you at some point in their lives. Kids are human and make mistakes just like the rest of us. Do you seriously think with that attitude you have that any child of yours would feel free to come to you if they were being pressured to have sex? Just instilling your "morals" doesn't guarantee results. How many Pastors daughter's end up pregnant? There is real peer pressure out there that you can't control. What should I do if one of my kids tells me they are having sex? Lock them up? Ground them? How long would that work? I guess you haven't have sex yet either since you are so moral that you would never have sex before marriage?!? I think it's easy for someone who doesn't have kids to tell people who do have kids what to do. It reminds me of Oprah and I can't stand her for that very reason.
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SPKrazy (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Sun Mar-14-10 11:08 PM
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So I Bought My 16 year Old Son
his first box of condoms... :P
Now I just hope he doesn't need to use them for a while, but he said he needed them and well...
Be happy the kid is straight.
Hey, this kid is the son of a DUmmie. He might want the rubbers to avoid disease when he takes it up the butt.
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Because they are immature and cannot handle the consequences of such actions. Its retarded for parents to give in to pop-culture instead of being parents.
Agree.
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I thank God my daughter is 34. If I had young teen agers, I would be in jail for doing the things I did raising my daughter.
Kids know they have the backing of courts.
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Agree.
I am not sure what there was to disagree with.
"Peer Pressure" is a bogus excuse.
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Go ahead and sign your kids up for kiddie porn or whatever. I think parents should try their best to teach their kids morals and giving in to immorality is wrong.
This is a ridiculous response to my statement! My kids are 28 and almost 31 - they are adults!
And I did teach my kids morals.....and I have great kids.
My comment to you was....you are not a parent, and it's very easy to be quite righteous as to how you would raise a child and how that child would act throughout their entire childhood and adolescence.
The reality of raising a child and getting them through childhood and adolescence....is a great deal harder.
Those of us who have raised our children and who are now adults and raising their own....look at raising children with a much different perspective than those who have not yet had children or their children are very young.
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I am not sure what there was to disagree with.
"Peer Pressure" is a bogus excuse.
It's not an "excuse" it is reality. What would you do if you did have a daughter and you found out she was having sex or worse yet, got pregnant?
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This is a ridiculous response to my statement! My kids are 28 and almost 31 - they are adults!
And I did teach my kids morals.....and I have great kids.
My comment to you was....you are not a parent, and it's very easy to be quite righteous as to how you would raise a child and how that child would act throughout their entire childhood and adolescence.
The reality of raising a child and getting them through childhood and adolescence....is a great deal harder.
Those of us who have raised our children and who are now adults and raising their own....look at raising children with a much different perspective than those who have not yet had children or their children are very young.
You mean you didn't sign your kids up for kiddie porn?
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I took my daughter to the GYN right before she started college, to get BC pills. She was 18. I wanted to make sure that if she did something dumb, she at least wouldn't get pregnant.
She didn't.
She waited until she was 27. And married her husband a month before my grandson was born.
Did I think she was dumb for getting pregnant before she was married? Absolutely. But at least she waited to make sure that getting married was what she really wanted to do and that she was marrying her husband because she was in love with him and not because she was having a baby. Having an abortion was never even a consideration and because she knew she could easily support the child on her own, she wasn't getting married just to have someone support her and the baby.
My grandson is 3 and his little sister is 5 months old. My daughter and son in law are extremely happy, and hopefully they will be one of those couples that make it all work.
Do I think I was a "bad" parent because she got pregnant at 27 without a husband? Heck no. She was an adult in charge of her own life.
Would I have thought I was a "bad" parent if she had gotten pregnant at 15 or 16...oh hell yes! Because at that time....I was the one responsible for her.
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You mean you didn't sign your kids up for kiddie porn?
no, but I did find my Victoria's Secret catalog under my son's bed when he was about 11.... :uhsure:
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no, but I did find my Victoria's Secret catalog under my son's bed when he was about 11.... :uhsure:
This came from a link that was sent about Muslim attitudes on sex and has just about floored me.
religious decree by Khomeini ordered that girl prisoners who are virgins must be raped before execution, to prevent them from entering heaven. A Guard conducts the rape the night before execution. The next day, a marriage certificate is issued by a mullah, who sends it to the girl's family, along with a box of chocolates as a wedding gift.
How does the new age thinking go, one must except diversity of others. The cultures of others are to be respected and accepted.
One must not in any way show non acceptance of another culture or religion. To do so may open you to jail time as to show disrespect may be considered a hate speech or crime.
As we go Hell bent on divercity, respect etc. will we have to put up with nasty old men that are teaching in their temples this stuff to American born children of Muslim parents.?
TMK, this stuff bakes the brain, WTF.
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no, but I did find my Victoria's Secret catalog under my son's bed when he was about 11.... :uhsure:
Same here. I found VS and even some underwear ads torn out from magazines. He was about 13 at the time and I didn't discover them until I took a garden rake to his room one spring.
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Even the grownup boys like Vic's Secret catalogues!
And I would like to moderate my comments from the first page. They were harsh and broadbrushed. I'm seeing through the glasses of my small town.
This isn't the case in all cases of course. My stepdaughter was a good girl all through high school, made good grades, had a promising future. At 19, she became pregnant. As this was not in the plan,she was pressured to have an abortion. I had no say, of course, there was nothing I could do, no comment to make at all. So I prayed that life would be chosen. It was.
The girl was raised right, taught right from wrong and how to behave and to avoid harmful stuff. The BC failed, is all. You cannot be everywhere all the time, especially as they grow up/are grown up. They will either run away, shut you out, sneak around, anything to not be caged. I guess my point is, I can see clearly where the mothers on this board are coming from.
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I am not sure what there was to disagree with.
"Peer Pressure" is a bogus excuse.
I agree fully. I could never preach to my kids that fornication is immoral but then turn around and say "... but, if you're going to do it anyway, here let me help you do it safely." I could never do that with any issue that is considered to be immoral. What kind of message does that send? So all this time you're been telling them that it was wrong and they should never do it, but since you can't stop them you'll actively participate in making sure them doing the wrong thing doesn't become worse. Sorry, but that makes the parent just as guilty of acting immoral as the child.
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Even the grownup boys like Vic's Secret catalogues!
And I would like to moderate my comments from the first page. They were harsh and broadbrushed. I'm seeing through the glasses of my small town.
This isn't the case in all cases of course. My stepdaughter was a good girl all through high school, made good grades, had a promising future. At 19, she became pregnant. As this was not in the plan,she was pressured to have an abortion. I had no say, of course, there was nothing I could do, no comment to make at all. So I prayed that life would be chosen. It was.
The girl was raised right, taught right from wrong and how to behave and to avoid harmful stuff. The BC failed, is all. You cannot be everywhere all the time, especially as they grow up/are grown up. They will either run away, shut you out, sneak around, anything to not be caged. I guess my point is, I can see clearly where the mothers on this board are coming from.
Thank you Karin, for your comments.
I can remember a lifetime ago, saying....well my kid will never do that!...then I had kids. :lmao:
I don't understand the issue with BC pills these days. When I was taking them...almost 40 years ago, as long as one didn't forget to take them...they were very effective. They must have been a lot stronger then, as I took them for 7 years with no problem, went off them and was pregnant 4 months later....because I left the "new" birth control in the drawer. (The drawer was protected...it didn't get pregnant. ::) ) Even though I had been married for over a year but having a child was still not in the plan. Surprise!
My daughter was on the pill when she got pregnant. Several girls that she knows have also gotten pregnant while on the pill. I have told my son for years, that just because a girl tells you she is on the pill, don't assume that it will work.
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I agree fully. I could never preach to my kids that fornication is immoral but then turn around and say "... but, if you're going to do it anyway, here let me help you do it safely."
I'm not allowed an opinion. On anything, on runaway Prius cars, since I don't one, on Starbucks bouncies, since I don't own a Starbucks....
I have seen the light and now I will hire topless 15 and 16 year old girls to sell soft-serv ice cream, we'll call the chain, CREAMIES!! //joking
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I'm not allowed an opinion. On anything, on runaway Prius cars, since I don't one, on Starbucks bouncies, since I don't own a Starbucks....
I have seen the light and now I will hire topless 15 and 16 year old girls to sell soft-serv ice cream, we'll call the chain, CREAMIES!! //joking
How juvenile. Seriously FGL, if you wouldn't have gone the "kiddie porn" route and been so absolute about it I wouldn't have even directed anything towards you personally. How do you propose to keep a child from having sex? If I have not instilled the morals I feel my child should have by the time they are even entertaining the idea of sex then I have failed as a parent. Deb and I aren't saying that we would hand our child birth control and say "have at it". Sometimes things don't go as planned, if after I have explained to my child for years the moral, medical and mental reasons for not having sex at a young age then they STILL want to go out and have it what am I suppose to do? Close my eyes and pretend like it's not happening? Yeah that is really responsible. I am a realist, that doesn't mean I have no morals.
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I'm not allowed an opinion. On anything, on runaway Prius cars, since I don't one, on Starbucks bouncies, since I don't own a Starbucks....
I have seen the light and now I will hire topless 15 and 16 year old girls to sell soft-serv ice cream, we'll call the chain, CREAMIES!! //joking
How juvenile. Seriously FGL, if you wouldn't have gone the "kiddie porn" route and been so absolute about it I wouldn't have even directed anything towards you personally. How do you propose to keep a child from having sex? If I have not instilled the morals I feel my child should have by the time they are even entertaining the idea of sex then I have failed as a parent. Deb and I aren't saying that we would hand our child birth control and say "have at it". Sometimes things don't go as planned, if after I have explained to my child for years the moral, medical and mental reasons for not having sex at a young age then they STILL want to go out and have it what am I suppose to do? Close my eyes and pretend like it's not happening? Yeah that is really responsible. I am a realist, that doesn't mean I have no morals.
BEG has pretty much answered you regarding children, but I would like to add that there is a huge difference between having an opinion on a car or Starbucks and sounding like a know-it-all righteous parent with perfect children when you don't have children!!
I had the sex talks with my kids when the time was appropriate. I have never bought condoms for my son, and yes I did buy birth control pills for my daughter when she was 18 years old, out of high school and 2 weeks away from leaving for college because I did not want her college education to be in total disarray because she ended up pregnant!!!
She got pregnant when she was 27 had a ABS degree and 6 weeks left of finishing up radiology tech school. She kept the baby, got married and SHE makes over $60,000 a year. And she and her husband had another baby last October.
If that makes me a bad parent in your opinion - then I guess I am.
Personally....I think I did ok.
Oh yeah....I also happen to like Starbucks Double Chocolatey-Chip Frappacinos.
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BEG has pretty much answered you regarding children, but I would like to add that there is a huge difference between having an opinion on a car or Starbucks and sounding like a know-it-all righteous parent with perfect children when you don't have children!!
I had the sex talks with my kids when the time was appropriate. I have never bought condoms for my son, and yes I did buy birth control pills for my daughter when she was 18 years old, out of high school and 2 weeks away from leaving for college because I did not want her college education to be in total disarray because she ended up pregnant!!!
She got pregnant when she was 27 had a ABS degree and 6 weeks left of finishing up radiology tech school. She kept the baby, got married and SHE makes over $60,000 a year. And she and her husband had another baby last October.
If that makes me a bad parent in your opinion - then I guess I am.
Personally....I think I did ok.
Oh yeah....I also happen to like Starbucks Double Chocolatey-Chip Frappacinos.
Why do we put this on the girls all the time.? When a female says no and is raped and not being on birth controll she will get PREGNATE some times, even 12 year old girls can do so.
Monsters have been known to rape NUNS, for crying out loud. To place a female on the pill when she begins to menstruate is no big deal. This is much like getting a vaccination to prevent disease, Bad things do happen to good girls.
Everyone points to the girl who may be sweet talked into a mess, or forced into one.
Raising two boys I at no time as their mother thought that they could ever NOT control themselves in that area. However to be realistic, my boy baby's are made much different from my girls.
You can talk all you want to about the extreme pressure place on the males in society by the woman who may in someway arouse them, old time men would get all excited if they saw a woman's ankle. Only the Lord knows what goes through a males head just watching half naked woman at the mall today.
We are not Muslim, we do not insist our woman and girls hide behind vales and loose clothing.
Strange but there is rape of the woman that do so regardless of their clothing.
For men to excuse their lust--a natural reaction for the male, and to excuse it for any reason is :bs:
Give me a break, I now know as a mother that had I faced reality and placed my girls on the pill their lives would have been far different then what it is today.
Putting your daughters on the pill does not mean they will go crazy and have sex, they will not run into the street looking for a good time.
For men sex is a release, like having a good bowel movement. For females sex is a commitment.
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Give me a break, I now know as a mother that had I faced reality and placed my girls on the pill their lives would have been far different then what it is today.
Putting your daughters on the pill does not mean they will go crazy and have sex, they will not run into the street looking for a good time.
Geez......another candidate for "mother of the year".......
doc
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Vesta, I don't know about you, but hormonal birth control messed with me BIG TIME, as an adult. Couldn't imagine treating birthcontrol like a daily vitamin or whatever," just take it because, really, what could it hurt?"
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For men sex is a release, like having a good bowel movement. For females sex is a commitment.
As a mother of a boy and two girls your last sentence offends me.
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Clean needles for kids!!
(I am NOT coming back to this thread)
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I've had vestanumbers on ignore for a long, long time, so I guess I missed it when she transitioned from being a goofy boring moron to being an offensive boring moron. I wish people could refrain from quoting her.
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I have been very open with my oldest about sex told him I would rather he wait but if he feels the need I would buy him condoms if he was too embarrased to do it. I also don't want to be a young grandmother
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As a mother of a boy and two girls your last sentence offends me.
As a woman who really enjoys sex, it offends me. Besides why would one not expect one's boy child to live up to the same standards as their daughter. Granted, I only had boys but that didn't excuse them from morality and responsibility. And I've always been very open with my boys from the they could understand. We even have a pretty raunchy sense of humor around here and have never avoided any topic either seriously or humorously.
Cindie
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I have boys. My husband and I have always had open communication about anything and everything with them. If they were old enough to ask, they were old enough to know. I did not allow street slang for body parts. They had to use the correct word or I wouldn't discuss sex with them. If they didn't know the proper word, we looked it up together. Back in those days I kept many medical books.
Morals and values are not only taught, they are learned from watching. In a perfect world there would only be sex with love but life isn't perfect. You do what you can to help and protect your kids always hoping for the best. I would have done the same things if I had a daughter.
Humor DOES help.
The stories I could tell. :-)
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I have boys. My husband and I have always had open communication about anything and everything with them. If they were old enough to ask, they were old enough to know. I did not allow street slang for body parts. They had to use the correct word or I wouldn't discuss sex with them. If they didn't know the proper word, we looked it up together. Back in those days I kept many medical books.
Morals and values are not only taught, they are learned from watching. In a perfect world there would only be sex with love but life isn't perfect. You do what you can to help and protect your kids always hoping for the best. I would have done the same things if I had a daughter.
Humor DOES help.
The stories I could tell. :-)
Having one of each....it's always been easier to talk to my son regarding sex. I think you are right, that humor was/is a help. Even at 28, he still comes to talk to me/us regarding his personal life. He's in a bit of a dilemma now, trying to make a relationship work when she lives halfway across the country...and has asked our opinion on a variety of issues. Pretty neat, to have him even want to know our opinion.
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As a mother of a boy and two girls your last sentence offends me.
Sorry to have offended you BEG, I should have inserted the word [ some ] in there twice--some men--some woman.