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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on March 13, 2010, 01:06:29 PM
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So, DUmmy ATJ takes a brief timeout from his non-stop forecasting of America's imminent collapse to make a cute post about state tax refunds. It's cute, because in it ATJ reveals that he's not only still unemployed, but also that he's just another apostrophe-crazed, grammatically illiterate DUmbass. He should be spending more time looking for work. You know, check for openings at the air port, or the laundry mat. His TwixVoy-ish puffery seems to have deserted him, in his concern over the refund of his $4.34 from the state:
AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-13-10 11:22 AM
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Just dumb
Edited on Sat Mar-13-10 11:23 AM by AllentownJake
I'm reading about a few states that are delaying tax refunds to keep their liquidity going. Just ridiculously dumb. Every time you do that, a tea bagger get's
sic their
sic wings.
Simply put, if I fail to hand over my money to the state of PA by April 15 (thank God we aren't this stupid) the state can fine me, take me to court, or any numerous other legal actions. If the state fails to send me my refund, I get no accrued interest or anything.
I know there is a big disconnect with those in government and the rest of the world but this is just dumb and it makes people think the government doesn't respect it's
sic own laws and agreements.
That is not a good thing.
Raise taxes, or cut spending. Don't play bullshit games because you can't make an unpopular decision in the legislature. This shit is even more unpopular.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7908549
DUmmy AllentownJake is implying that he has taxable income! (And I think he meant to say "law's and agreement's".) Sometimes I think "AllentownJake" is a lowbrow nom de plume for DUmmy TwixVoy.
NightWatcher (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-13-10 11:31 AM
Us poor/working people spend 100% of our money and put that money back into the community, when the rich who get their tax cuts hoard and invest their money to make more money to invest more money....
DUmmy NightWatcher has never stopped to think that if rich guys hadn't invested their money in the Jiffy Lube and the carwash, his last two jobs would not have existed.
Mari333 (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-13-10 11:33 AM
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2. in the meantime
how much are we spending on 2 occupations?
insane. we are insane.
I think DUmmy Marinumbers is talking about Iraq and Afghanistan, not the Jiffy Lube and the carwash.
havocmom (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-13-10 12:58 PM
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4. Yep, raise taxes on the upper tiers and give the rest their due refunds!
The top tiers hoard while the rest will put those refund $$ right into circulation. That just might save (or even help create) some local jobs which makes..... more taxpayers.
Puppets in statehouses and legis need to face reality and stop fiddling with bs value issues to distract and delude.
DUmmy havocmom needs to consider that Jiffy Lubes and carwashes don't just fall from the sky. Those democrat careers wouldn't exist without the top tiers investing their ill-gotten gains.
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Someone should explain to Marinumb that her state taxes don't go to fund the war.
ATJ should be happy and boastful that his refund has gone "back into the community"
I have no idea what the Night Watchman is talking about.
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I think that accrued interest is mandated by state law in most, if not all, states.
I have to come up with a big chunk of change next month because I was not having taxes deducted from my unemployment checks. I thought that the few months I worked at the beginning of last year would cover it, but I figured wrong.
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Sat Mar-13-10 12:58 PM
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4. Yep, raise taxes on the upper tiers and give the rest their due refunds!
The top tiers hoard while the rest will put those refund $$ right into circulation.
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Wonder what DU name of this character is? It was in my local paper.
Tax cut unfair
The tax cut is unfair to those who don't pay taxes. How will they be compensated?
Warren
http://www.macombdaily.com/articles/2010/03/10/opinion/srv0000007776471.txt
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hahahahaha
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Wonder what DU name of this character is? It was in my local paper.
http://www.macombdaily.com/articles/2010/03/10/opinion/srv0000007776471.txt
Attaboy, Warren! I think Warren may be one of us.
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PA state income tax is a straight 3.07 percent. There are only 2 or 3 possible deductions, for medical insurance like HSA's or tuition credits. Basically everyone pay 3.07 percent, so for the most part there are no refunds.
3.07 is deducted from your pay, you owe 3.07. It's not rocket science.
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PA state income tax is a straight 3.07 percent. There are only 2 or 3 possible deductions, for medical insurance like HSA's or tuition credits. Basically everyone pay 3.07 percent, so for the most part there are no refunds.
3.07 is deducted from your pay, you owe 3.07. It's not rocket science.
That decimal throws a lot of people off. :) Illinois is currently at 3%, but it's going to go up.
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Ah, but zero percent is a LOT nicer.
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Ah, but zero percent is a LOT nicer.
Lousy Freeper. Don't you know that state and city services depend on taxes from those who are employed?*
*DU mode
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That decimal throws a lot of people off. :) Illinois is currently at 3%, but it's going to go up.
I heard they will now want 1 pound 5 ounces of flesh.
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Only 3%? Wow... Nawth Carolina is at least twice that.
Glad I don't live there anymore.
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Only 3%? Wow... Nawth Carolina is at least twice that.
Glad I don't live there anymore.
I read that its going from 3% to 5%!!! That's a huge jump.
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I read that its going from 3% to 5%!!! That's a huge jump.
Nebraska's state income tax used to be a straight 20% of one's federal income tax.
One computed his federal taxes, and then sent a fifth of that amount to the state, or his refund was a fifth of the federal refund.
Easy and quick.
We have "tax tables" now, ever since the sales tax (5%) was removed from groceries, and so the state returns aren't so easy to fill out any more, but it's still about 20% of one's federal income taxes.
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Nebraska's state income tax used to be a straight 20% of one's federal income tax.
Thats an interesting method.
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Thats an interesting method.
There was a peculiar advantage to it, too.
As long as Nebraska's income tax rate was a percentage of the federal tax rate, the IRS enforced compliance on our behalf, without Nebraska putting out a penny.
But then when Nebraska veered away from that, the IRS said, "enforce your own compliance," which mean that the taxpayers of Nebraska, formerly getting a free ride on the IRS's back, had to pay for hiring state tax enforcers.
This all happened because originally, when sales and income taxes were imposed in 1967, replacing personal property taxes as the mainstay of Nebraska revenue, groceries were sales-taxable.
It took a couple of decades to deal with that mess.
The liberals in the Nebraska legislature, greedy to gouge the taxpayers, resisted any attempt to remove the sales tax from groceries. When they finally understood that in the long-term it was a losing battle, they voted for a special income tax deduction for groceries, circa $20-40 to be subtracted from the state income taxes (or added to the state income tax refund), to make up for what consumers had to pay on groceries.
Nebraska's longest-serving state senator, a self-serving liberal and crackpot, Ernie Chambers of Omaha, did actually do one thing right in all those years of his in the state legislature. He persistently argued, why mess with an income tax deduction; why not just simply not tax groceries?
Ultimately he won, but by that time other special interests had messed with the state income tax, twisting it way out of shape from the way it had originally been, a straight percentage (which varied from year to year, but was usually circa 20%) of one's federal income taxes.
And so.....Nebraska had to set up its own tax tables, divorcing it from the federal income tax.
The newest alteration of the Nebraska income tax, for this year, is a straight $25 deduction (off one's state income taxes), for property owners, for every deer that is killed on one's property. (Not for the hunters, but for the landowners.)
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I understand that. What is odd to me is pegging their tax rate to another entity's tax rate.
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I understand that. What is odd to me is pegging their tax rate to another entity's tax rate.
It was eminently simple, though.
Just a straight percentage of one's federal income taxes.
A very short form.
Not to mention that taxpayers of Nebraska had no costs associated with compliance, as the feds were doing that work for us at little or no cost to themselves.
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I'm still trying to figure out why someone as smart as AllentownJake can't find a job ?
Being super intelligent must have advantages right ?
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That's interesting, Frank. Simple, streamlined, and even the biggest fool could figure it out. I like the shift of compliance costs. Connecticut was very simple, too. You start with your fed, then adjust it 2 or 3 times, and you're done.
New York, of course, is a cluster. My tax prep fees that I will pay will likely approach $1K. Ouch. And I'm an accountant, I did a lot of the backend work. I can't imagine the costs to some poor schlub who doesn't know how to bookkeep, or worse yet, doesn't know WHAT to bookkeep because of some weird, arcane tax law that forces you to disclose what you had for dinner on August 25.
Good living for you, though. :-)
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You don't pay taxes you thieving DUmmie scumbag.
How the heck do you expect to get a refund on something you haven't paid for in the first place ?
On a related note - How funny is it to see people who demand others pay disproportionate amounts of tax , bitching that they're paying too much.
If they were to put their money where their mouth is - they'd not demand a refund and just pay their "fair share".
Typical of leftists though. They're ever so generous with other peoples money but wouldn't lift a penny of their own money unless threatened with jail time.
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You don't pay taxes you thieving DUmmie scumbag.
How the heck do you expect to get a refund on something you haven't paid for in the first place ?
Actually, most democrat deadbeats do get a refund on taxes they have not paid. That's what the EIC is.
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I read that its going from 3% to 5%!!! That's a huge jump.
Once the MSM gets this it is only a minimal 2% increase not the real 60% increase. Now, if it is an entitlement program that will not increase the 10% per year but only increase 5% it will be reported as a draconian 50% reduction of the program.