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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on March 05, 2010, 03:05:14 PM
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-05-10 02:47 PM
Original message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7851427
Fudging the numbers again? Unemployment remains steady at 9.7% while 36,000 jobs lost
<http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100305/ap_on_bi_go_ec_fi/u... >
Once again the Obama administration is following the lead of his predecessors and is cooking the books when it comes to the unemployment figures. We saw this happen last month, where they were a bit more audacious, dropping the percentage figure by .3% while 20,000 jobs were lost. Perhaps a modicum of decency crept in, and that is why this month's percentage figure didn't drop.
This practice of playing political games with the unemployment figures in order to make your administration look better started under Reagan, and Obama is carrying on the tradition quite well, thank you. Desperate for any sort of "win" on the jobs front, expect us to be inundated with statements like "hitting the bottom" and such like crap to try and make people feel like something is being done.
Nothing is being done, except that more and more people are becoming desperate for a job. Many have reached a point of despair where they simply stop looking, why bother. Which is the government's perfect excuse for not counting them.
Don't be fooled, the fact of the matter is that we're still losing jobs in this country. A modest estimate of the true unemployed rate ranges around seventeen percent and climbing.
This massaging of the unemployment numbers needs to stop, it doesn't serve the country, it doesn't serve the people, the only ones it serves are the politicians who are in office. There are well over twenty one million people unemployed in our country. It is time this administration honestly faced this fact, and started doing something about it.
Holy ****. This is open season the das Eine! Where is the unrecs? Where is the tombstone?
MadHound (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-05-10 02:57 PM
Response to Reply #1
3. True, but it really became prevalent under Reagan
And the numbers up until then were basically honest. It was until Reagan came along that we saw "discouraged" workers not counted, while the folks in the military were added for the first time in order to bulk up the numbers.
Compared to what happened with Reagan and those who followed, Ike was squeaky clean in this regard.
Still the rpublican's fault.
AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-05-10 03:10 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. Something is about to happen
Not really sure, but the crowd that doesn't like what I'm saying is becoming increasingly hostile.
November elections? Moving into the next phase of the stage of grief collectively? Knowledge that a gentle breeze at this point crashes the house of card?
Not really sure, something is going on though.
is it....Hope and Change?
laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-05-10 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. Perhaps just setting up scapegoats for the coming rout in November
They'll never admit the move to the right had anything to do with it. Hell, most have a hard time admitting a move to the right is occurring.
AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-05-10 03:38 PM
Response to Reply #18
20. No
Edited on Fri Mar-05-10 03:39 PM by AllentownJake
This is bigger. On the non-partisan boards the tone has suddenly changed as well.
I have a feeling some insiders know something bad is about to happen and they are trying to delay it as much as possible.
Either that, or I'm convinced there is an increasing awareness in the general populace they've been ****ed.
There was a theory I've read that generally knowledge starts off in a few hands, than expands outward.
5 months ago, there was just me and Mamar talking about economic realities and willing to fight about our opinion...the number appears to be growing....I didn't even have to do an OP today about why the BLS numbers are bullshit, 5 of them appeared for me.
Will the 'O' declare Marshall Law? :hi5:
MadHound (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-05-10 03:00 PM
Response to Reply #2
5. Yep, meanwhile the real number is at least at 17% and climbing
But I'm finding this sort of in your face lying rather astonishing. The percentile number doesn't change, while almost forty thousand jobs are lost. Last month they had twenty thousand jobs lost, but the percentile rate actually dropped. They think that they can fool the people, and perhaps they can.
One wonders at who the DUmpmonkiez think are lying to them?
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AllentownJake is starting to sound like one of them right-wing rethuglikkkan teabaggers as he tries to speak tr00f-2-m00nbats.
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Madhouse is a protected species. She's a public school educator.
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Of course they know something bad is coming and are trying to delay it as long as possible, thats what they've been doing for a decade or two.
Now we're on the verge of destroying a super power and we have a President who is gleeful about it.
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Fri Mar-05-10 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #13
18. Perhaps just setting up scapegoats for the coming rout in November
They'll never admit the move to the right had anything to do with it. Hell, most have a hard time admitting a move to the right is occurring.
True to leftist form, in spite of the topic being the amazing unemployment in the U.S., brought on by the entire leftist spectrum in order to get 0 elected, this one is worried about losing democrats in office.
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AllentownJake
5 months ago, there was just me and Mamar talking about economic realities ...
That puts you about 2 years behind conservatives talking about what would have with a liberal Dem in office. If you go back to what we were talking about a year ago, you'll find out what's going to happen 6 months from now. Yes, we're that good.
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