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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: GOBUCKS on February 26, 2010, 12:16:06 AM
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DUmmy rhinonumbers isn't a DUmp star, but she's come up with winner of a bouncy, even though she has no admiring bystanders. Bouncy tales have two main objectives. First, the DUmmy wants to hit a DUmp nerve, and get his fellow DUmpmonkeys riled up, howling and yowling and flapping their arms. Second, and most important, the DUmmy wants to curry favor and approval from the DUmp by reflecting the DUmp's official position in how he reacts to the outrageous behavior of the offending fundie or repug. DUmmy rhinonumbers was absolutely inspired in crafting this bouncy. She was able to include three guaranteed winning bouncy elements. Mental illness - a huge proportion of the DUmp proudly trumpets their insanity, in hopes of collecting money for it. Loss of medical insurance - in light of todays six-hour jug-eared melodrama, what could be more timely? An outrageous fundie forcing himself on a devoutly heathen democrat - if DUmmies were Pavlov's dogs, they'd drown in slobber at the sound of a Christian voice. With apologies for the lengthy lead in, please enjoy DUmmy rhinonumbers' amazing imagination:
rhino47 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:34 PM
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Took Bipolar Friend to Free Clinic.Fundie Dr tried faith healing.
I drove a friend that lost his insurance to a free clinic tonight.He is deep in the depressive state.
Crying for hours,not sleeping well,even the simplest tasks seem too much for him.
When the doc came in to see him the first words out of his mouth was "Have you been saved?" My friend and I looked at each other like WTF not catching the meaning at first.Doc then said my friend was depressed because he hasnt the faith to live his life properly.He then told him the footprints in the sand crap.He then prayed over him and left.We were stunned.I went out into the hall to ask about perhaps a ssri or something to help his depression.The doc looked at me like I was satan. He said depression was not a disease but a lack of faith.He then went back in to my friend and asked him to
come to his church so they could hold a prayer circle for him.My friend is unable to even drive at this point due to his GAD (generalized anxiety disorder).The doc said he could pick him up.
It was all so stunningly creepy and sad.I am now at his house with my kids to make sure he makes it through the night.I really want to call the director of the clinic and raise holy hell (pardon the pun) but this is the first time I have taken someone there that the care was not caring,loving and competent.I think this docs whole reason for volunteering there is to get more people for his church.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7798134
Oh, the humanity. As you would expect, though, the DUmp eats up every word.
Mojambo (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:37 PM
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2. Is that clinic funded by the state?
Because if it is that "doctor" should be ****ing fired.
cliffordu (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:37 PM
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3. Report that quack to whatever medical board would be involved.
That's just disgusting.
Warpy (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:38 PM
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4. You need to call and report it and follow up with a letter of complaint
Write the facts down just as you've written them here.
Any doctor who doesn't write a scrip for someone with known bipolar disease needs to have his license taken. If you wanted witch doctoring, you'd have found a church, not a medical clinic.
This is intolerable. I hope your friend makes it and you need to return to that clinic tomorrow and hope the fraud isn't there. If he is, RAISE HELL, BE LOUD. He has no business being anywhere around sick people.
DUmmy rhinonumbers makes a small stumble:
rhino47 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:39 PM
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6. My friend is on SSD for bipolar
He just got it and has to wait two years before he can get on medicare.
You can't make a mistake about disability payoffs at the DUmp. Too many people there are getting them already:
REP (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:52 PM
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23. Not necessarily; the date of the disability can be backdated
The date he became disabled is not the same as the file date or the date of granting SSD. If his dx predates his file date - and there's documentation - the Medicare eligibilty date can be adjusted. I had this done for me.
ohheckyeah (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:39 PM
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7. I think you should call the director.
That's not health care. He might as well have done a voodoo dance. What that doc did is criminal.
This DUmmy is risking a tombstone. How dare he disrespect the voodoo religion?
Warpy (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:48 PM
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19. Unfortunately, bipolar disease is a serious problem with
basic brain chemistry and herbs and vitamins won't do anything for it.
What's needed is a return trip to that clinic to find someone with an actual medical education and if that isn't going to work, an ER will have to do.
The guy needs to get on the appropriate medication ASAP, whether lithium carbonate, valproic acid, or some of the newer drugs.
The quack needs his ass out of that clinic, pronto.
Have to agree with drug-addled Warpy on this one. "Natural remedies" improve nothing but the bottom line of the folks who sell them, and quackettes like our departed Patriot Lady.
Did someone say "free clinic"? Here comes bobbolink, posting from her Blackberry, provided by the taxpayers of Colorado, from the back seat of her '86 Buick.
bobbolink (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:42 PM
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9. Isn't that precious. Using a free clinic to proselytize .
"was not caring,loving and competent."
You're not too likely to find that among therapists of any stripe anymore. Its all confrontation and pills, now.
Caring and loving doesn't pay the bills.
CC (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:42 PM
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10. You need to file a complaint
with every board you can find in you city/county/state along with the free clinic. Write everything down now and all the times so you remember everything. Raise hell. Maybe find a local mental health advocacy group to 1, help you find your friend some real help and 2 alert them to this dangerous doctor. ACLU might be interested too. If that doctor is failing your friend who had a reliable witness with him what is he doing to those that come in alone, exorcisms?
virgogal (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:43 PM
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12. That is one of the strangest stories I have ever heard. He should
be reported,and quickly,before he does any more harm.
DUmmy rhinonumbers goes a little over the line now:
rhino47 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:46 PM
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15. Believe me it was utterly surreal virgogal.
I was gobsmacked.I felt so angry that all they gave him was not a referral but a day pass to the YMCA.
The DUmmy is preening so mightily over the success of her bouncy tale, she claims to be "gobsmacked". You know a DUmmy is feeling her oats when she starts using eurotrash slang.
DUmmy GreenPartyVoter is not nuts, and will go nuts on anyone who suggests otherwise:
GreenPartyVoter (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 11:32 PM
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32. Do _not_ let that doc near your friend again. I hope he hasn't got all his
contact info. If he does try to reach him or show up at his place, show him the door and tell him not to come back! (And do make a complaint to the clinic director, no matter what.) I'm bipolar and I am _deeply_ offended by anyone who suggests that mental illness has anything to do with a lack of faith or moral or character issues. (Or being possessed!!) I will go off on them if they even try to suggest it.
Please tell your friend to hang in there. I know where he's at right now. And bless you for being there for him all the way!
This is a big bonfire with outraged DUmmies all over the place. Not one casts even a hint of doubt on the veracity of this wild bouncy. We don't call 'em DUmmies for nothing.
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Well, sounds like he got what he paid for.
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This just happens to come out as some report suggests people who are religious have less mental problems??
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rhino47
When the doc came in to see him the first words out of his mouth was "Have you been saved?" My friend and I looked at each other like WTF not catching the meaning at first.Doc then said my friend was depressed because he hasnt the faith to live his life properly.He then told him the footprints in the sand crap.He then prayed over him and left.We were stunned.I went out into the hall to ask about perhaps a ssri or something to help his depression.The doc looked at me like I was satan. He said depression was not a disease but a lack of faith.He then went back in to my friend and asked him to come to his church so they could hold a prayer circle for him.
What a coincidence. Just the other day, I went to the free clinic and the doctor drew a pentagram on the floor and told me to dance around a sulfuric acid bottle while chanting "my sweet Satan."
You primitives will believe anything.
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Mojambo (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:37 PM
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2. Is that clinic funded by the state?
Did this question ever get answered? We've seen the threads where outraged DUmmies will demand of the OP, "Give us the name of the restaurant, office, whatever!!!!!!!!" They want to get on the horn and make angry phone calls, organize boycotts, etc. The OP stutters or ignores the requests. Did such a thing happen with this bouncy?
Well, at least we know that Bobolink hasn't died.
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This just happens to come out as some report suggests people who are religious have less mental problems??
Probably that's the basis for this work of fiction.
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Probably that's the basis for this work of fiction.
Does that mean that the DUmmies are reading other forums here than the dumpster?
http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,41135.0.html
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-25-10 10:38 PM
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4. You need to call and report it and follow up with a letter of complaint
Write the facts down just as you've written them here.
Better yet, just post a link to this DUmp thread. :evillaugh:
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Bi-polar: When it takes 2 trips to haul that much crazy to the shrink.
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Of course they loved it. Bashing fundies and talking about a condition a lot of DUmmies are personally familiar with. What more could they want?
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This stinks as bad as the south end of a north bound moose! Though the Doc may have suggested faith would help this DUmmie, clearly looking for a handout, not a hand up, no Doc would just send them away. If they were unable to prescribe the quick-fix the POS wanted, he would more than likely send them to the state's mental health facilities.
Chances are also, RhinoStoopidity, the free clinic is supported by a church. Many of them are!
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Oh, I have even a better one-just the other day, a clinic in England came to a complete halt while the Muslim staff all fell down on their prayer rugs towards Mecca.
Hold on, don't bouncies have to be fake?
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Now this is complete bullshit unless...he's talking about some type of rehab clinic.
The pysch wards and mental health facilities I've had contact with don't talk religion.
Now rehab, of course, talks lots of religion.
Oh yeah...rehab is for quitters. :-)
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I just don't know how they could possibly believe this. Even Christian mental health counselors/psychologists will use combination therapy. They might start and end their sessions with a prayer (and advertise their Christian based counseling for those that want it) but they follow traditional therapy protocols. BiPolar is not something doctors of any stripe mess around with. My guess is they smoked way too much pot, took a few too many 'ludes and walked into a Benny Hinn rally instead of a free clinic.
Cindie
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I just don't know how they could possibly believe this. Even Christian mental health counselors/psychologists will use combination therapy. They might start and end their sessions with a prayer (and advertise their Christian based counseling for those that want it) but they follow traditional therapy protocols. BiPolar is not something doctors of any stripe mess around with. My guess is they smoked way too much pot, took a few too many 'ludes and walked into a Benny Hinn rally instead of a free clinic.
Cindie
Bingo! I think you've got it. Of course it's fiction, but I think maybe the DUmmy was trying to write a screenplay for the next "Harold and Kumar" movie.
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I just don't know how they could possibly believe this. Even Christian mental health counselors/psychologists will use combination therapy. They might start and end their sessions with a prayer (and advertise their Christian based counseling for those that want it) but they follow traditional therapy protocols. BiPolar is not something doctors of any stripe mess around with. My guess is they smoked way too much pot, took a few too many 'ludes and walked into a Benny Hinn rally instead of a free clinic.
Cindie
Exactly, a "fundie" type who believed in faith healing rather than modern therapy techniques wouldn't even be in the business, not even in Christian therapy.
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Don't Whacko Docs have to prescribe Whacko drugs to Whackos not MD's?
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Don't Whacko Docs have to prescribe Whacko drugs to Whackos not MD's?
If you're asking whether psych drugs have to be prescribed by a psych doctor, no. MD's can prescribe anything, Nurse Practitioners as well. Psychiatrists can prescribe meds because they have a medical degree. Psychologists and counselors cannot prescribe meds and usually work with your primary care doctor who prescribes the meds.
Cindie
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This POS is just looking for a free gubmint high. He can't afford his addictions and wants us to pay for 'em. Nothing more, nothing less!
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Bi-polar: When it takes 2 trips to haul that much crazy to the shrink.
asshat
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Solid work, 7.5 bongs, didn't stick the landing. A fellow liberal at the clinic and some trash talking about the doc and a giant futile effort at the doc and we are talking high 9s.