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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Lauri on March 11, 2008, 09:59:08 PM
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GoldieAZ49 (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Tue Mar-11-08 10:05 PM
Original message
I agree with Ferraro
I have never been a fan of Hillary's I do not support her, but I do agree with Ferraro.
The cry of racism is getting old. Keep calling Democrats that, especially leaders that have fought long and hard for equal rights and see what kind of support you get from them.
Ferraro responses:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLI0kOEFyfQ
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5029857
so, its ok to admit youre a racist now if youre a Dem? :popcorn:
apparently so..
Bread and Circus
Response to Original message
2. Seriously **** off.... but before you do....read this....Ferraro's racism is not new
Ferraro's long history of this crap
by kos
Tue Mar 11, 2008 at 06:12:07 PM PDT
Okay, I'm convinced. Geraldine Ferraro is a bona fide racist. April 15, 1988, Washington Post:
And former representative Geraldine A. Ferraro (D-N.Y.) said Wednesday that because of his "radical" views, "if Jesse Jackson were not black, he wouldn't be in the race."
Asked about this at a campaign stop in Buffalo, Jackson at first seemed ready to pounce fiercely on his critics. But then he stopped, took a breath, and said quietly, "Millions of Americans have a point of view different from" Ferraro's.
Discussing the same point in Washington, Jackson said, "We campaigned across the South . . . without a single catcall or boo. It was not until we got North to New York that we began to hear this from Koch, President Reagan and then Mrs. Ferraro . . . . Some people are making hysteria while I'm making history."
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"**** off . . . oh, wait a minute before you do . . . ok, NOW **** off"?
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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yeah, there is a lot of that going on in the threads today... and good Lord, if Hilary becomes their nominee, I cannot imagine what will happen at DU .. there is a WHOLE lotta hate for her going on there. :-)
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AX10 (1000+ posts)
12. STOP WITH THIS RACIST SHIT!
You damn liberal elites have been playing this card for the past fourty years!
Enough is enough!
they are having a bit of trouble keeping the lid on the insane asylum tonight.. :popcorn:
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AX10 (1000+ posts)
12. STOP WITH THIS RACIST SHIT!
You damn liberal elites have been playing this card for the past fourty years!
Enough is enough!
they are having a bit of trouble keeping the lid on the insane asylum tonight.. :popcorn:
As I said in the thread on GD: P, I see mass tombstones in the future.
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Dunno if this is kosher but I thought I would meld another DU thread along with this one. (same topic)
Poll question: Do you agree with Geraldine Ferraro's comments?http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5030533
Heaven and Earth (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-11-08 10:30 PM
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Poll question: Do you agree with Geraldine Ferraro's comments?
TIn an interview with the Breeze, Ferraro said, "If Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position. And if he was a woman (of any color), he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept."
http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_8533832
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" 'Any time anybody does anything that in any way pulls this campaign down and says let's address reality and the problems we're facing in this world, you're accused of being racist, so you have to shut up,' Ferraro said. 'Racism works in two different directions. I really think they're attacking me because I'm white. How's that?'...
"Ferraro said she was simply stating an obvious truth, as seen in exit polls that show Obama taking as much as 80 percent of the black vote in the Democratic primaries.
" 'In all honesty, do you think that if he were a white male, there would be a reason for the black community to get excited for a historic first?' Ferraro said. 'Am I pointing out something that doesn't exist?' ...
"She also said she is familiar with Axelrod from his work for minority candidates in New York.
" 'He knows damn well that the best thing to do in a situation like this is to come back and hit with race,' Ferraro said, adding that the response is a sign that the Obama campaign is 'worried' about the first-term senator's lack of experience.
Ferraro said she was not trying to diminish Obama's candidacy, and acknowledged up front that she would not have been the vice presidential nominee in 1984 if she had been a man."
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/03/11/75713...
Poll result (111 votes)
I agree (13 votes, 12%) Vote
I disagree (98 votes, 88%) Vote
Kittycat (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-11-08 10:34 PM
Response to Original message
1. I hope the people that agree either qualify it (which they can't)
Or get tombstoned for being racists at a dem site, and clearly freepers.
Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Tue Mar-11-08 11:05 PM
Response to Original message
16. Her statements are inarguably true, but I do not support them as words of someone affiliated with a
campaign.
If you have a connection with a campaign there are a million true things you ought not say.
As Micheal Kinsley noted long ago, almost all gaffes are instances of politicians accidentally telling the truth.
But seriously... anyone who doesn't think her comments are literally true, as spoken, is demented.
And Hillary wouldn't have been the front-runner last year if she wasn't Bill Clinton's wife.
Duh!
uh oh... LOL
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This election is giving me entertainment value that Id be willing to pay for. :popcorn:
And as they tear themselves apart, McCain continues to do pretty much nothing. Excellent.
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AX10 (1000+ posts)
12. STOP WITH THIS RACIST SHIT!
You damn liberal elites have been playing this card for the past fourty years!
Enough is enough!
they are having a bit of trouble keeping the lid on the insane asylum tonight.. :popcorn:
As I said in the thread on GD: P, I see mass tombstones in the future.
seems like someone called that one a few months ago. :wink:
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If you have a connection with a campaign there are a million true things you ought not say.
the GOP ought to use that in a LOT of ads to attack the left ... damn, our ads are writing themselves over there! :-)
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If you have a connection with a campaign there are a million true things you ought not say.
the GOP ought to use that in a LOT of ads to attack the left ... damn, our ads are writing themselves over there! :-)
blame proportional distribution, among other things. it sometimes creates nothing but chaos. one thing an electoral system should deliver is a definite candidate; a clear winner.
the dems seem to have made every decision about their primaries this cycle with a perverse determination to destroy themselves.
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Truth is still a complete defense.
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If you have a connection with a campaign there are a million true things you ought not say.
the GOP ought to use that in a LOT of ads to attack the left ... damn, our ads are writing themselves over there! :-)
blame proportional distribution, among other things. it sometimes creates nothing but chaos. one thing an electoral system should deliver is a definite candidate; a clear winner.
the dems seem to have made every decision about their primaries this cycle with a perverse determination to destroy themselves.
Yes..............but I think it's more of the Liberal mindset that their really can't be a winner and loser. If the Democrat primaries were winner take all like the Republican one.............the Dumbass canidate would have already been picked.
I really hope they don't see this......................cause I'm laughing my ass off :lmao:
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I'm loving it! And Ferraro isn't backing down.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080312/pl_nm/usa_politics_ferraro_dc
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Former vice presidential candidate Geraldine Ferraro on Wednesday stood by her comment that Democrat Barack Obama is only where he is because he is black and said the reaction by his campaign was dividing the party.
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"My comments have been taken so out of context and have been spun by the Obama campaign as racist that it's doing precisely what they don't want done -- it's going to the Democratic Party and dividing us even more," Ferraro said in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America."
Ferraro, the Democratic vice presidential candidate in 1984 and the only woman ever nominated by a major party for either of the top two U.S. political offices, ignited a flap by telling a California newspaper that "if Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position."
"And if he was a woman he would not be in this position. He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught up in the concept," Ferraro said.
Ferraro, who is supporting Hillary Clinton's campaign to become the Democratic nominee in November's presidential election, told ABC she believed that was true and that she was hurt by reaction by the Obama campaign that she said painted the comments as racist. She said she has fought against discrimination for 40 years.
"My concern has been over how I've been treated as well and hurt, absolutely hurt by how they have taken this thing and spun it to imply that in any way, any way I am racist," she said.
When asked about Ferraro's remarks, Obama said that being an "African American man named Barack Obama" was not the quickest path to becoming U.S. president.
"Anybody who knows the history of this country I think would not take too seriously the notion that this has been a huge advantage, but I don't think it's disadvantaged either," Obama said.
Obama, who would be the first black U.S. president, rode a wave of heavy black support to victory on Tuesday in a primary race in Mississippi and extended his lead over Clinton in pledged delegates to the August nominating convention. The Illinois senator also won on Saturday in Wyoming.
Clinton, who would be the first woman U.S. president, said on Tuesday she did not agree with the comments and called them "regrettable," but the Obama camp accused her of a double standard for refusing to rebuke Ferraro and remove her from her finance position with the campaign.
An Obama foreign policy adviser resigned last week after telling a British newspaper Clinton was "a monster."
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Conversely, would Hillary be a front-runner if she wasn't Bill's wife?
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^Ding ding ding!!!! Nope. She's running on the Mrs. platform. Which, ironically, flies in the face of the feminist agenda.
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^Ding ding ding!!!! Nope. She's running on the Mrs. platform. Which, ironically, flies in the face of the feminist agenda.
which contrasts with The BarackStar!'s platform; since he is in favor of affirmative action, he is at least being philosophically consistent.
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[youtube=425,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SDHxaYhqAo[/youtube]
:rotf:
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Love. Love that video. LOL :-)
Poll update...
Poll question: Do you agree with Geraldine Ferraro's comments?
Poll result (169 votes)
I agree (22 votes, 13%) Vote
I disagree (147 votes, 87%) Vote
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AX10 (1000+ posts)
12. STOP WITH THIS RACIST SHIT!
You damn liberal elites have been playing this card for the past fourty years!
Enough is enough!
they are having a bit of trouble keeping the lid on the insane asylum tonight.. :popcorn:
As I said in the thread on GD: P, I see mass tombstones in the future.
Its ok they cam migrate over to NU. Plenty of libs to chat with there.