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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: dutch508 on February 18, 2010, 10:56:11 AM
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 11:36 AM
Original message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7739447
***Breaking-plane hits building in Austin***
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 11:38 AM by dgibby
Small plane hits building in Research Park, four buildings on fire. FBI office in building next to building that was hit per CNN. No info on cause of crash.
Update: at least 2 people unaccounted for. No info on what is housed in the buildings involved.
Normal OP...it won't last.
Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 11:48 AM
Response to Reply #10
16. ok good in response to where the FBI building was
Faux really really wants this to be a terrorist attack it seems. Every other sentence included: "could this be an attack? We just don't know yet." It was nuts.
after 9/11 that is the first question on many minds.
kentuck (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 11:44 AM
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8. George W Bush re-joined the Texas Air National Guard ?
Anybody seen him lately?
Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #8
11. and taking pilot lessons from McCain?
I hope not!
Typical hateful DU posts.
ChoppinBroccoli (385 posts) Thu Feb-18-10 11:46 AM
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9. Every Republican In America.........
...........just fired a hot, sticky, gooey load into their pants and are currently PRAYING that this is a terrorist attack.
marmar (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #9
13. If it turns out to be that, odds are it's a domestic terrorist.....
..... one who probably looks, acts and thinks a lot like they do.
in the leftist minds, only the right wing kills people.
gkhouston (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 11:48 AM
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15. Christ. As if driving on 183 isn't bad enough... n/t
First question a DUmpmonkie asks, "How does this affect me?"
just starting- sure there will be more.
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Somehow, someway I know this is Bush's fault.
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This primitive needs to be challenged:
marmar (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #9
13. If it turns out to be that, odds are it's a domestic terrorist.....
..... one who probably looks, acts and thinks a lot like they do.
You mean one that looks like Dr. Amy Bishop? And acts like her, and thinks like her--just like DU?
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Times like this are when I really need to avoid this section.
FOAD DUmmies.
THIS Conservatives first thought was that I hoped everyone was ok and that no one died in the building.
The ONLY ones shooting "a hot sticky load" in their pants is you effin morons. And you're doing it at the thought of getting to blame this on Conservatives.
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They're desperate for a RW attack after the Amy Bishop affair:
backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:12 PM
Original message
**** me, Cheney's jumping for joy at the plane crash in Austin...
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 05:12 PM by backscatter712
It does look like it was deliberate so far.
Just watch as the neocons sing their shrill terror song and the authoritarians come out of the woodwork demanding we be turned into even more of a police state...
Bend over America, here it comes again!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7739732
Winterblues (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:27 PM
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27. Probably an accident the pilots house burnt down right before he took off as well.
Beetwasher (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:14 PM
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3. Not If It Turns Out To Be A Teabagger
n/t
HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:14 PM
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5. I wonder what they'll do when it turns out it was a teabagger.
mrdmk (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:24 PM
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25. The media will say this person was a hippie liberal and label him as a democrat!
TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:15 PM
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7. Probably a riled-up 'bagger pissed at big gummint.
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 05:16 PM by TheCowsCameHome
The building supposedly houses government agencies.
WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:15 PM
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8. Ten to one says it's a domestic nutball
Either somebody doing his version of walking into the workplace and shooting it up or a Timothy McVeigh type.
Any word on what's in the office park? Businesses, government offices, liberal organizations
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Parker CA (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:17 PM
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13. IRS branch inside building. Just reported on MSNBC. Angry teabagger?
igfoth (74 posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:20 PM
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21. Would anyone else be shocked
to find out that one of Cheney's minions orchestrated this?
backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:22 PM
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22. Looks like the pilot set his own house on fire before taking off...
Very well might be a mentally ill person, or maybe a teabagger gone postal...
KeepItReal (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:26 PM
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26. Non-Muslim anti-government types do not count for Cheney
Tim McVeigh ring a bell?
Motown_Johnny (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:32 PM
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30. my first impression is it may be a Timothy McVeigh type (AKA Freeper)
They NEED this to be RW.
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The LAST place you'd EVER find TEA Party folks...IMHO is Austin.
I mean this is the same Austin where people were protesting the bombing of Afghanistan in response to 9/11 three hours after the announcement.
DUmmies don't know excrement about Austin.
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It's a DUmmie that just filed his taxes and didn't see the box for the "Free PonyTM.
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Sent the link to the DU thread to Rush and to NewsBusters.
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Married to a musician? In Austin? And the plane was stolen?
My money's on liberal Democrat.
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Married to a musician? In Austin? And the plane was stolen?
My money's on liberal Democrat.
I wouldn't bet against you on that one.
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If someone needed evidence the primitives live in an alternate universe than normal and descent people, look no further that the comments posted above.
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ChoppinBroccoli (385 posts) Thu Feb-18-10 11:46 AM
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9. Every Republican In America.........
...........just fired a hot, sticky, gooey load into their pants and are currently PRAYING that this is a terrorist attack.
No, jackass, we're actually not. Quite the opposite, in fact. We're praying that this is just an accident. We don't want any more terrorist attacks on Americans.
The only people firing loads into their pants are you morons. Over one-hundred replies within 90 minutes. Sad. Just sad.
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 11:44 AM
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8. George W Bush re-joined the Texas Air National Guard ?
Anybody seen him lately?
Okay, that was funny.
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I wouldn't bet against you on that one.
Same here. Seems he was a hetero male, though, so it cuts down a lot on his chances of being a DUer.
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 11:44 AM
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8. George W Bush re-joined the Texas Air National Guard ?
Anybody seen him lately?
Well...the two F-16's that scrambled from Ellington Field in Houston WERE from W's old unit...the 147th TFW.
AND they were the ones that guarded Air Force One all the way from Florida to just outside D.C. on 9/11
Just sayin...
:fuelfire:
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Parker CA (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:17 PM
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13. IRS branch inside building. Just reported on MSNBC. Angry teabagger?
Angry teabagger? Anderson Cooper did this? Or elton john? george michaels? forkboy? goodboy?...
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Angry teabagger? Anderson Cooper did this? Or elton john? george michaels? forkboy? goodboy?...
Poor sugar dumplings.....it was one of their own.
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Ellipsis (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #97
99. just found this...HE posted this... HOLY SHIT!!!!!!
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 12:57 PM by Ellipsis
http://embeddedart.com /
Heh...quite the barrage against GWB in there, eh DUmmies?!
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Poor sugar dumplings.....it was one of their own.
Heh heh, wonder what Stack's DU name was?
Edit: Love your avatar IassaFTots.
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Heh...quite the barrage against GWB in there, eh DUmmies?!
And this...
stranger81
113. Wow. There's a lot in here that, unfortunately, isn't wrong.
Like this part:
"Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours? Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political “representatives†(thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the “terrible health care problemâ€. It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in."
Reminds me in a weird way of the Unabomber Manifesto.
The Unabomber; another liberal terrorist (I know, redundant).
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Heh...quite the barrage against GWB in there, eh DUmmies?!
Uh yeah, he was one of THEM...
Isn’t it ironic how far we’ve come in 60 years in this country that they now know how to fix that little economic problem; they just steal from the middle class (who doesn’t have any say in it, elections are a joke) to cover their asses and it’s “business-as-usualâ€. Now when the wealthy **** up, the poor get to die for the mistakes… isn’t that a clever, tidy solution.
The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight years certainly reinforced for all of us that this criticism rings equally true for all of the government. Nothing changes unless there is a body count (unless it is in the interest of the wealthy sows at the government trough). In a government full of hypocrites from top to bottom, life is as cheap as their lies and their self-serving laws.
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This guy blames the IRS...the Catholic Church his CPA...his wife and *drumroll* George W. Bush!
In addition he faults the accounting firm of Arthur Anderson...a key player in the Enron scandal.
Suck on it DUmmies...as much as I hate to speak ill of the dead...he's one of yours.
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This guy blames the IRS...the Catholic Church his CPA...his wife and *drumroll* George W. Bush!
In addition he faults the accounting firm of Arthur Anderson...a key player in the Enron scandal.
Suck on it DUmmies...as much as I hate to speak ill of the dead...he's one of yours.
Yeah, just read his suicide note...he's a leftist wacko...DUers' heads exploding. :rotf:
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Yeah, just read his suicide note...he's a leftist wacko...DUers' heads exploding. :rotf:
Don't tell that to CNN's male bimbo Rick Sanchez...he's claiming this guy hated both sides.
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Heh heh, wonder what Stack's DU name was?
Edit: Love your avatar IassaFTots.
Thanks!
The DU will never tell us what his DU name was. They have convinced themselves he is a "RW teabagger."
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Don't tell that to CNN's male bimbo Rick Sanchez...he's claiming this guy hated both sides.
Why, because he mentioned moynihan? Probably.
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qanda (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 02:04 PM
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5. Sounds like he may have been a DUer
Hope not but wouldn't be surprised.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7740790
Ouch!
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Why, because he mentioned moynihan? Probably.
I didn't see it anywhere in his diatribe...but Bimbo Sanchez claims Obama's policies were criticized as well.
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Yep, sure sounds like a DUmmie to me! Guess what stoopid, death and taxes, ever heard of it? Well I guess ya won't have to pay your taxes now as you took the other option.
Nice touch leaving your family in the street after burning down their house. What a ****in' looser!
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I didn't see it anywhere in his diatribe...but Bimbo Sanchez claims Obama's policies were criticized as well.
He does mention the bailouts and GM execs. Guess that could be it.
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cbdo2007 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 01:49 PM
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121. Press conference said President Obama was notified at 12:35 Eastern time....
That's a whole hour after we were notified on DU. Hmmm......
This just struck me funny. :p
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Angry teabagger? Anderson Cooper did this? Or elton john? george michaels? forkboy? goodboy?...
Fister?
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I wanna know what Tamron Hall's DU name is.
She very subtly tried to get Pete Williams to agree with her comparison of Stack to the TEA Party folks.
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qanda (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 02:04 PM
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5. Sounds like he may have been a DUer
Hope not but wouldn't be surprised.
That right there was sunk six feet under.
His rant did sound perfectly like a DUmp post.
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From the Lame Stream Media...
"Today an anti-Obama, anti IRS Tea Party white male conservative attacked the federal government in a glowing example of how dangerous these people are....."
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5 minutes after the crash came out along with the fact the guy's name wasn't Muhammed and was in Texas... he gets pegged a "teabagger" (the left are teh real teabaggers, btw). As far as Amy Bishop..... they do their damnest to conceal her politics.
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I'd say we start looking for missing "Top 10 DUmmies of the year".
Oh, lurking DUmmies..............................**** you.
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That right there was sunk six feet under.
His rant did sound perfectly like a DUmp post.
Name removed (0 posts) Thu Feb-18-10 02:04 PM
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5. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
It must have violated the rule about not posting the truth. :-)
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This guy was a DUmmie. Did you read his manifesto/screed?
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This guy was a DUmmie. Did you read his manifesto/screed?
---> http://www.conservativecave.com/index.php/topic,40846.msg446309.html#msg446309
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AzDar (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 01:47 PM
Original message
If The Austin Kamikaze Turns Out To Be A Teabagger, Round Up Those ****ers, and Waterboard Them...
Save Us, Dick Cheney... From The Teabag Terror!
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How can someone who is an anti-religious and anti-capitalist bigot be a "tea bagger"??
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And, this dude who we all know and loathe, is desperately trying to convince himself that Stack was a teabagger, and he's desperately trying to sound smart. This is one my most hated primitives.
HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #19
26. Yeah, I saw all that.
"“The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight yearsâ€"
Implying Bush is the puppet of some secret government. Real woo woo tinfoil stuff. I bet the guy didn't have a problem with Bush the eight years he was in office. You see similar disillusionment in teabagger rhetoric.
"“The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.â€"
Contrary to the claim that this is pro-communist, it's really just anti-capitalist. It's also hypocritical. They guy was reasonably well off- he could afford a house, training as an amateur pilot, and made enough an income to bitch about taxes.
"It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants."
He's going for the reverse-racism, poor oppressed white male angle. Again, common tea-bag rhetoric.
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #2
4. I also don't believe it has been authenticated...
This could all be a sick creation of someone.
on Stack's note...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7740464
They are going crazy...er...est....?
Oregone (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 01:31 PM
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5. Definitely a Rightist Republicrat Liberommunist
He had a strong start, but when he asked his other personalities to contribute, it fell into pieces all over the map.
was that an attempt at humor?
redqueen (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #8
13. Again with the mental illness crap.
The guy was unable to handle frustration... that does NOT make him mentally ill.
You would know.
gateley (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 01:58 PM
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9. I have a different view of this than the many of you who have posted your take
on it on this thread.
I think he presented his case well, lucidly (except a little more explanation about Bill Ross and the piano may have helped), and has expressed what many of us here on DU have expressed: Anger at the injustices done to the American people, frustration at the unwillingness of our government to help us, and helplessness at the realization that we ultimately have no power.
He speaks for me.
Imagine that this is a fed-up DUer posting a rant -- it could likely be recced on to the Front Page.
I'm sorry that it reached the point where it became too much for him to handle.
Speaks for DU. Yup.... :evillaugh:
Arkana (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 01:59 PM
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10. He doesn't sound like a Tea Partier...the line at the end about capitalism
is too insulting.
Sounds like he's just a nut.
sounds like DU.
Whisp (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 02:16 PM
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18. this could have been written by any number of DUers.
except for the crashing part.
this man is not nuts, he's saner than most.
Where is the FBI?
hfojvt (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #18
28. so he's a leftwing terrorist?
Is DU gonna claim him the same way we would try to pin him to FR if he leaned a little bit to the right.
I don't know if I would call him sane. Angry at churches being tax exempt, he tried to start a fake church so he could get out of paying taxes and then got all mad when he couldn't get away with it.
I stopped reading his self-indulgent sob story about 1/3 of the way through. If you get mad and kill people at random, then I am not gonna take your ideas that seriously. He doesn't deserve the publicity we are giving him.
soon to be deleated post...
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The bug dude pontificates:
mike_c (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 03:48 PM
Original message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7741920
you know, I don't think I would have liked Joe Stack at all...
Edited on Thu Feb-18-10 03:54 PM by mike_c
...but I can't help but feel familiar with him after reading his suicide letter. He was almost the same age as I, and it sounds like we've had some similar experiences. I'm not Joe Stack-- I've came to this point in my life pissed off but not despairing, and rather than taking my life, I'm more likely to just leave it behind and go try something less stressful.
But I still feel a lot of empathy for Joe Stack, and his complaints about the state of U.S. government and of society resonate with me.
There are lots of threads on DU condemning what Stack did. There are threads debating whether he is a right wing terrorist or a left wing terrorist, whether he's a tea bagger at heart or an anarchist. I don't want to debate any of those questions in this thread because I don't think they are very important questions, frankly. I'm not interested in assigning blame, or in "my side" dodging it.
I'm moved by Stark's anger about what has happened to the U.S.-- and I admit to sharing that anger. His voice resonates with me even if his hatred of the IRS is less of an issue for me than my anger about U.S. foreign policy and corporate culture. The society we are creating in this country is not a good one. Joe Stark makes me ask myself what I'm doing about that. I have some easy answers, but I need to take a longer look at some of the harder ones. Maybe we all do.
What Stark did was wrong, and it ultimately took away any hope he might have ever had for genuine redress of his grievances. But my friends, we don't make the rules anymore, or at least not many of them. Most of the means for redressing our common (and not so common) grievances have been made "wrong" by the institutions that seek to protect their interests against the people's interests. Most of the ways we have to fight back are illegal now, or socially unacceptable, or not what our employers want, or whatever. Change does not come easy, and The Man resists it with all the force of The State.
Stark's last words were about socialism and capitalism, about whether we take care of one another or elevate naked greed to a virtue. Make no mistake that in that struggle, the institutions of the state and of the people who want to maintain the status quo are arrayed against us.
I don't think I would have liked Joe Stark. The gulf of personality seemed too wide between he and I, at least judging by the comments he left behind. But I think we were pretty much on the same side.
Sensitive type, the bug dude is...
Kahuna (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 04:13 PM
Response to Reply #1
22. Yep. He sounds like a leftist loony. nt
yup.
cali (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 03:54 PM
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5. I've read his screed three times
I'm pretty close to being convinced that he was not remotely on any side I'm on. I try hard not to blame everything on others and to take a measure of responsibility. He clearly did not. I try not to be selfish or self-pitying. He obviously wallowed in both. I don't think he gave a flying **** about anything but himself. He was a greedy disgusting piece of shit businessman who was a failure. He couldn't deal with that failure so the ****er hopped in his private plane and attempted to kill people.
Sounds like a loony leftist.
Warpy (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 03:55 PM
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6. Well, he was an antitax nut, possibly a teabag sympathizer
and that would have created a gulf between us. However, the sense of betrayal in that final letter really did seem terribly familiar. I think a lot of people in this country can relate well to it. I also think some of them will be acting out in the future.
:mental:
mike_c (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 03:59 PM
Response to Reply #9
12. I read it on DU, but the mods took it down....
I'm really not sure why. I think emotions are running a bit strong about the whole thing.
I'm sure it will be back soon.
Scammer doesn't want his children to read and become converts, I would imagine.
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 03:33 PM
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NOW I HAVE SEEN EVERYTHING. Facebook fan page for Joseph Stack
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=323208187216&ref=...
sick people in the world.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7741875
Mari333 (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 03:45 PM
Response to Reply #1
6. alternet just sent a link via my Facebook page
I think it was created today..teabaggers jumping on him as their hero
good. let them own him.
::)
dmallind (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 04:11 PM
Response to Reply #4
23. No please don't. Let it stand so the public knows who supports this guy
There is plenty in his letter that could peg him to the left. Probably more than could peg him to the right and certainly in easier soundbites. If the Teabaggers want to claim him for gods' sakes let them or it could easily be painted on us.
The leftist coverup begins.
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 04:20 PM
Response to Reply #29
30. Barely contained violence. And *this* is the "grassroots" movement
people are so impressed by.
too bad he was a DU-er.
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They try to pin it on "teabaggers" then in the same post say "he speaks for me". He didn't like paying taxes because he thought the rich should pay them. He is DU to a "T".
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 03:48 PM
... I can't help but feel familiar with him after reading his suicide letter.
How many of these posts are we going to see until the DUmp buries this story in the 9/11 forum? Of course its "familiar"... its the same shit that's been on your website since the day it opened. His blather was a Nance Greggs screed written by someone slightly less intoxicated.
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I went to the FB site. Here are the first few "fans" I clicked on.
This person sounds a little confused....
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"Fake Church?"
I guess scientology was too expensive.
Really? How about a "real church"? I guess their church had no congregation or something.
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Talk about throwing shit up just to see what sticks. :whatever:
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 01:44 PM
Response to Reply #19
26. Yeah, I saw all that.
"“The recent presidential puppet GW Bush and his cronies in their eight yearsâ€"
Implying Bush is the puppet of some secret government. Real woo woo tinfoil stuff. I bet the guy didn't have a problem with Bush the eight years he was in office. You see similar disillusionment in teabagger rhetoric.
:mental: That is straight from DU. Nuked the WTC, Iraq for Halliburton, etc. ringing any bells?
"“The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.â€"
Contrary to the claim that this is pro-communist, it's really just anti-capitalist. It's also hypocritical. They guy was reasonably well off- he could afford a house, training as an amateur pilot, and made enough an income to bitch about taxes.
That quote is straight from The Communist Manifesto. He wanted taxes to be paid ONLY by the rich until all the classes were "equal". Elimination of "classes" ringing any bells?
"It has always been a myth that people have stopped dying for their freedom in this country, and it isn’t limited to the blacks, and poor immigrants."
He's going for the reverse-racism, poor oppressed white male angle. Again, common tea-bag rhetoric.
No, he's going for the "chickenhawk" whites angle and saying that he is fighting for "freedom" alongside our military.
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 03:16 PM
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2. Bullshit. This was a classic anti-tax activist rant.
The anti-tax activists are a distinct wing of the far right.
There was NOTHING in the letter that ties him to any leftist ideology.
Call it for what it is.
even the DUmpmonkiez call him on this.
timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 03:21 PM
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8. As you say, his proclaiming leftist sayings means nothing.
uh....sure.
RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. You really need to learn how to read.
That was the obvious reference to HIS take on how how corporate America operates - it says nothing about his opinion on that well-worn phrase. It was the set up for the punch line that followed. Nothing more.
Jeeze.
Obviously this guy was a right wing hate monger racist teabagger...
elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 05:50 PM
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24. He's the posterboy for the angry, unbalanced, desperate wings of all parties.
sick man. sad
true.
DevonRex (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 06:00 PM
Response to Original message
28. How the HELL do we know he even believed the shit he wrote?
He's all OVER the map in that suicide note. Hates taxes, apparently didn't see fit to pay them. Hates Bush. HUH??? Bush was the best thing that EVER happened to folks who own their own private planes.
What we DO know is that he's a tax evading murderer who would NOT fit right in here on DU. We are FOR people paying their taxes and we are AGAINST murder. Those are the ONLY givens.
Dav has been the lead shouter for the 'facts' this guy is a right winger.
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 06:00 PM
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28. How the HELL do we know he even believed the shit he wrote?
He's all OVER the map in that suicide note. Hates taxes, apparently didn't see fit to pay them. Hates Bush. HUH??? Bush was the best thing that EVER happened to folks who own their own private planes.
What we DO know is that he's a tax evading murderer who would NOT fit right in here on DU. We are FOR people paying their taxes and we are AGAINST murder. Those are the ONLY givens.
You guys want everyone else to pay taxes but you. Just like this crazy ass.
Oh and he stole the plane, sounds more and more like a DUer every minute.
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You guys want everyone else to pay taxes but you. Just like this crazy ass.
Yep! Hell hath no fury like a liberal that has to pay taxes.
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Yep! Hell hath no fury like a liberal that has to pay taxes.
Not to mention he hated religion. DU owns him.
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You guys want everyone else to pay taxes but you. Just like this crazy ass.
Heck, he could have been a cabinet member if he only waited his turn.
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Someone at FR said this guy sounds like a LaRouche voter
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DevonRex (1000+ posts) Thu Feb-18-10 06:00 PM
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28. How the HELL do we know he even believed the shit he wrote?
He's all OVER the map in that suicide note. Hates taxes, apparently didn't see fit to pay them. Hates Bush. HUH??? Bush was the best thing that EVER happened to folks who own their own private planes.
What we DO know is that he's a tax evading murderer who would NOT fit right in here on DU. We are FOR other people paying their taxes and we are AGAINST murder unless the victim's a Soldier, a Marine, or a Conservative. Those are the ONLY givens.
Hey, fixx0rized a little couple of little typos for ya there, Dev, no need to thank me, it's just what I do to help out.
:innocent:
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Hey, fixx0rized a little couple of little typos for ya there, Dev, no need to thank me, it's just what I do to help out.
:innocent:
Sounds like the primitive is smart enough to know its time to distance itself from the mess.
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If they're so anti-murder how do they explain Amy Bishop, ELF, ALF, Bill Ayers & weather underground, the unibomber, etc., etc., etc.
Cindie
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If they're so anti-murder how do they explain Amy Bishop, ELF, ALF, Bill Ayers & weather underground, the unibomber, etc., etc., etc.
Cindie
You can't stop there. Since their messiah is a jug-eared muslim, they need to explain 9/11. (Without using bricks and chicken wire, which is their best attempt to date.)
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If they're so anti-murder how do they explain Amy Bishop, ELF, ALF, Bill Ayers & weather underground, the unibomber, etc., etc., etc.
Cindie
We can blame the eco/environazis for more deaths that than almost all dictators combined. The banning of DDT was one of the worst things done to the countries that suffer from Malaria.
In April 1972, after seven months of testimony, EPA Administrative Law Judge Edmund Sweeney stated that “DDT is not a carcinogenic hazard to man. ... The uses of DDT under the regulations involved here do not have a deleterious effect on freshwater fish, estuarine organisms, wild birds, or other wildlife. ... The evidence in this proceeding supports the conclusion that there is a present need for the essential uses of DDT.â€*
Two months later, EPA head [and Environmental Defense Fund member/fundraiser] William Ruckelshaus - who had never attended a single day’s session in the seven months of EPA hearings, and who admittedly had not even read the transcript of the hearings - overturned Judge Sweeney’s decision. Ruckelshaus declared that DDT was a “potential human carcinogen†and banned it for virtually all uses.**
Since Ruckelshaus arbitrarily and capriciously banned DDT, an estimated 15,065,796,900 cases of malaria have caused immense suffering and poverty in the developing world.
Of these largely avoidable cases, 101,694,129 people died.
That exceeds one needless premature death every 12 seconds for more than three decades.
http://www.junkscience.com/malaria_clock.html
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-19-10 04:13 PM
Original message http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7752113
Forget the "terrorist" connection, I want to know Stack's teabagger connection
This man flew an airplane into the side of the IRS building and his suicide note is essentially an anti-IRS rant. PLEASE don't tell me he had no connection to the freepers and teabaggers.
they so need the dude to be a right winger it's killing them.
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they so need the dude to be a right winger it's killing them.
If only...
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They so very badly want him to be a Tea Partier. But, let's look at something here (my comments are in red here) in the fourth paragraph of his "suicide note":
Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this countriy's leaders don't see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies.
Don't know about you, but this sounds to me like an indictment of the government for not "reforming healthcare."
Matter of fact, these next few lines confirm that . . .
Yet, the political "representatives" (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the "terrible health care problem." It's clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don't get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in.
Since when did health care reform become a cause celebre of the Right? It's the Left that spouts this nonsense!
I dare any DU lurkers to register here and "explain" this to us. "Enlighten" us. :tongue:
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All you have to do is read the last lines, where he compares communism to capitalism, to figure out what side of the line this nutball was from!
I rest my case, DUmbASses!
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Just in case any of the truly insane from the DUmp are lurking here. Could it be that anyone that writes a 30+ page suicide note was just ****ing nuts and nothing more? His friends were interviewed and they all said he had NO political leanings and that he pretty much was as normal as anyone around. Until they say otherwise I'm betting it was one of two things. A stroke that caused him to react like this like Frank has said here in the past when talking about people that have had personality changes without any signs of injury or other causes. Or two the guy went nuts like the famous Texas Tower sniper from the 1960's. After the Autopsy they found out the guy had a tumor the size of a grapefruit on his brain.