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Title: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: CC27 on February 18, 2010, 09:12:03 AM
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Poll question: Would you turn them in?
   
Another poster suggested that in order for guns to be eliminated from American society, Foreign troops...from armies from two countries...would have to run the confiscation program.

That poster then claimed that "Very few civilians would actually put up any significant resistance. Simply the sight of foreign armies in the streets will frighten most into voluntarily surrendering their weaponry."


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...



So the question for DU gun owners is this:

If the soldiers of two foreign armies were roaming the streets in an attempt to confiscate the firearms of ALL American citizens, would you turn them in?

Fairly strait forward.


Note to the mods:

The poster I refer to suggested this I start this poll.

Poll result (48 votes)
yes   (3 votes, 6%)   Vote
no   (45 votes, 94%)   Vote

Go ahead DUmmies and try and turn me in. I will have the last laugh. Big bonfire.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x293995

Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: Chris on February 18, 2010, 09:20:55 AM
Snitches get stitches :p

No wonder they're called DUmmies...
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: dutch508 on February 18, 2010, 09:24:33 AM
Foriegn armies on the street grabbing guns?

Sounds like an invasion which I am paid to put down.

OVERTIME!

 :yahoo:
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: jinxmchue on February 18, 2010, 09:27:14 AM
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If the soldiers of two foreign armies were roaming the streets in an attempt to confiscate the firearms of ALL American citizens, would you turn them in?

Yes, I would turn in the soldiers' bodies after shooting them for invading American soil.

Seriously, why are DUmmies so inept at basic grammar?

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Fairly strait forward.

Oh, FFS!
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 18, 2010, 09:32:12 AM
Foriegn armies on the street grabbing guns?

Sounds like an invasion which I am paid to put down.

OVERTIME!

 :yahoo:

Yeah right.  However, it would make the entire country Income Tax Combat Zone Exclusion territory!  Ka-CHING!!!!
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: jinxmchue on February 18, 2010, 09:35:16 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x293995#294000

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RC  Donating Member  (1000+ posts)
Wed Feb-17-10 11:07 PM
Response to Original message
4. The first thing that would happen would be a lot of dead would be Rambo's laying around.

Probably, and that's a good thing.  The tree of liberty needs to be watered with the blood of patriots and people who are the first to step up and sacrifice their lives for the good of this country should be applauded.
   
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Then the "Cooperate to Survive" would turn in their guns and their neighbors.

And they would be shot as traitors by their gun-owning neighbors.


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Then the real resistance would manifest itself. Along the lines of the Underground of Europe during WWII.

Yeah, because that worked out SOOOO well.  Heck, we didn't even need D-Day because of the "real resistance" in Europe during WWII.  Idiot.  Jackass.  Ignorant ****wad.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: Specbid on February 18, 2010, 09:37:30 AM
Any scenario that could possibly lead to this is too effin' stupid to contemplate.

Note to OP DUmmie: get the hell out of your mom's basement and live a little...you're spending way too much time with the stoopid people.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: Odin's Hand on February 18, 2010, 09:37:39 AM
RC = bootlicker
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: njpines on February 18, 2010, 09:41:11 AM
I think you would see alot of dead foreign soldiers . . .
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: IassaFTots on February 18, 2010, 09:46:16 AM
Firearms?  WHAT firearms???
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: TheSarge on February 18, 2010, 09:48:02 AM
I think you would see alot of dead foreign soldiers . . .

And the idiots at DU would be Vichy-Americans.

Of whom I would take great joy in being a part of the head shaving that would follow after we kicked foreign troops off of our soil!
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: Lord Undies on February 18, 2010, 09:55:39 AM
This reinforces what I have written about in the past.  Some of the Little Goons are perpetually distraught with the reality that the USA is superior to all other nations and all other cultures on earth.  The idea of a couple of nations coming in and cutting us down to the size the Little Goons want us to be is like a pleasant dream to them.  In this particular dream, there is the added bonus of making helpless unarmed drones out of the citizens of the USA.  Normal folks would no longer be able to protect themselves from the socialist/communist/Marxist/democrat/Little Goon/etc. crazies.  That would be Utopia!  
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: blitzkrieg_17 on February 18, 2010, 09:57:46 AM
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode18/usc_sec_18_00002381----000-.html

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§ 2381. Treason
How Current is This? Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: CC27 on February 18, 2010, 10:04:25 AM
I bet Pammy D would try and seduce the soldiers like she did the cabin boy on the cruise.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: Karin on February 18, 2010, 10:08:53 AM
Well, this thread gave me a chuckle.  I went over and read some of their thread.  My, but they sound positively freeperish! 
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 18, 2010, 10:24:32 AM
Everyone has big brass balls on the internet.  However in the cosmically-unlikely event our armed forces were vanquished to the point this was even possible, the outward appearance of cooperation would be much more effective for the long-term prospects of successful resistance than self-identifying as an ethnic cleansing candidate.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: jukin on February 18, 2010, 10:56:34 AM
I will go with what a great military mind said almost 70 years ago. IIRC: Invasion of the USA would find a rifle behind every blade of grass.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: GOBUCKS on February 18, 2010, 11:13:18 AM
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And the idiots at DU would be Vichy-Americans.
Every member of the democrat party is already a Vichy-American.

Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: kenth on February 18, 2010, 11:30:00 AM
The stupid has been extra runny the last couple of days at the dump, with this thread and the commie one.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: djones520 on February 18, 2010, 11:35:38 AM
Foriegn armies on the street grabbing guns?

Sounds like an invasion which I am paid to put down.

OVERTIME!

 :yahoo:

Amen to that.  I may just be a "zoomie" but I'd be right there beside ya.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 18, 2010, 12:11:36 PM
Amen to that.  I may just be a "zoomie" but I'd be right there beside ya.

Ditto.  I may be a little long-in-the-tooth, but I can still pack a mean punch.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: USA4ME on February 18, 2010, 12:28:23 PM
Here's what kicked it off:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=293831&mesg_id=293831

Quote from:
sharesunited

Guns used by Mexican cartel traced to Texas gun store.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/17/cartel.guns/index.html?hpt=C1

Quote from:
Don Caballero

1. Another reason a gun ban is needed in our country

Quote from:
cowman
Response to Reply #1

6. Well why don't you just try it and see how far that goes

Quote from:
Don Caballero
Response to Reply #6

7. I really don't think it would be as difficult as some think
 
Many people would simply turn in their firearms once they were outlawed. Confiscating the remaining firearms could prove to be difficult. Our military and the military of Canada and Mexico would probably have to assist.

Some talk about the Posse Comitatus Act.  And then ...

Quote from:
Don Caballero
Response to Reply #20

21. Our military would never go for it.

That is why a foreign military would have to be deployed within our borders to run the confiscation program. Foreign troops have no vested interest in American civilians. Different language, different culture.

Quote from:
petronius
Response to Reply #21

22. You seriously think a foreign military should be deployed to the US to confiscate guns from US citizens!? And having them not speak English would be a bonus?

You know how people say to think outside the box? You should probably come back to the box now...

Quote from:
Don Caballero
Response to Reply #22

23. If our true aim is a gun free society I am afraid these steps are necessary. Very few civilians would actually put up any significant resistance. Simply the sight of foreign armies in the streets will frighten most into voluntarily surrendering their weaponry.

Guy's a total whackjob even to some of the primitives.

.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: IassaFTots on February 18, 2010, 12:36:06 PM
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You know how people say to think outside the box? You should probably come back to the box now...

I think I may have to make that a tagline, I really do. 
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 18, 2010, 12:39:41 PM
Holy shit! If this isn't treason, what the hell is? If this idiot believes this crap, he needs to post his name and address. That way the nearest patriot can give him a visit and a lesson in American anger!

Foreign troops! Lord save us from these frikkin trators!
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: Specbid on February 18, 2010, 01:01:54 PM
I think I may have to make that a tagline, I really do. 

I did laugh at that DUmmie's comment. They can be funny at times.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: jinxmchue on February 18, 2010, 01:20:54 PM
Holy shit! If this isn't treason, what the hell is? If this idiot believes this crap, he needs to post his name and address. That way the nearest patriot can give him a visit and a lesson in American anger!

Foreign troops! Lord save us from these frikkin trators!

Hey, don't hold back.  Tell us how you REALLY feel.

 :-)

j/k  I'm with you, man.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 18, 2010, 01:30:58 PM
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petronius
Response to Reply #21

22. You seriously think a foreign military should be deployed to the US to confiscate guns from US citizens!? And having them not speak English would be a bonus?

You know how people say to think outside the box? You should probably come back to the box now...

 :rotf:

Ol' Petronius hit that one square on the head!  Don Caballero needs to put that bong down, even the nuttiest Democrat in Washington isn't gonna go down the road he's looking at.  I can't think of a quicker way to provoke revolt in the armed forces and a popular uprising with extremely swift and unpleasant results for the politicians responsible for any such plan.

 :mental: 
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 18, 2010, 01:51:35 PM
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You know how people say to think outside the box? You should probably come back to the box now...

Yeah, Stinky's litter box!
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: The Village Idiot on February 18, 2010, 04:21:28 PM
"Gee, I thought there were only a few hundred invaders in this area?"

"There were but we got them all"

"Then who killed all those liberals?"

"The bad guys of course... sir. Their guns are right over there, we... they even melted some of their barrels...um.. I have no idea why the invading commies wanted to kill liberals..."

"No clue here either, soldier"
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: delilahmused on February 18, 2010, 05:43:10 PM
There are times when profound stupidity leaves me speechless. That ANY citizen would advocate foreign armies on our streets and in our neighborhoods...even DUmmies is insane.

Cindie
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: blitzkrieg_17 on February 18, 2010, 05:47:13 PM
There are times when profound stupidity leaves me speechless. That ANY citizen would advocate foreign armies on our streets and in our neighborhoods...even DUmmies is insane.

Cindie

Treason has been de rigeur at the DUmp for years.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: AllosaursRus on February 18, 2010, 05:47:35 PM
There are times when profound stupidity leaves me speechless. That ANY citizen would advocate foreign armies on our streets and in our neighborhoods...even DUmmies is insane.

Cindie

You have to admit it doesn't surprise you, though!
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: formerlurker on February 18, 2010, 05:49:14 PM
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Another poster suggested that in order for guns to be eliminated from American society, Foreign troops...from armies from two countries...would have to run the confiscation program.

That poster then claimed that "Very few civilians would actually put up any significant resistance. Simply the sight of foreign armies in the streets will frighten most into voluntarily surrendering their weaponry."


?????What?????


How in the hell are foreign troops..... from armies from two countries...... getting into the United States?

How old are these halfwits?


Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: LC EFA on February 18, 2010, 05:57:15 PM
The race for "Single most idiotic post" for 2010 has kicked off with a very strong performance by Don Caballero.

Other contestants are really going to have to strive to score a place in this event.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 18, 2010, 06:43:59 PM
The race for "Single most idiotic post" for 2010 has kicked off with a very strong performance by Don Caballero.

Other contestants are really going to have to strive to score a place in this event.


You know they will.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: vesta111 on February 18, 2010, 07:16:17 PM
Wait---I was taught the original intent of the right to bare arms was to protect us from our OWN government.  Nothing I have seen says we arm ourselves against foreigners, that is the job of the military. civilian courts are for us, foreigners or out right traitors are for the military to handle----ARE YOU LISTENING OBAMA.??

Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: The Village Idiot on February 18, 2010, 07:57:06 PM
Wait---I was taught the original intent of the right to bare arms was to protect us from our OWN government.  Nothing I have seen says we arm ourselves against foreigners, that is the job of the military. civilian courts are for us, foreigners or out right traitors are for the military to handle----ARE YOU LISTENING OBAMA.??

When the government is full of traitors, this is the kind of thing that happens.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: Atomic Lib Smasher on February 19, 2010, 01:01:57 AM
Sounds like a job for Chuck Norris. Gotta watch Invasion USA again.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: Randy on February 19, 2010, 06:05:10 AM
Hummmmm who would I be more likely to shoot on my doorstep demanding I surrender my hypothetical guns, a US Serviceman, some federale screaming at me in spexican or a phrench poofter wetting himself on the stoop?

Good Job DU! Retard of the year awards will be posted later this year. Keep your eyes posted to this site.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: formerlurker on February 19, 2010, 07:41:02 AM
The race for "Single most idiotic post" for 2010 has kicked off with a very strong performance by Don Caballero.

Other contestants are really going to have to strive to score a place in this event.


I have to agree with you -- I don't think they will be able to top this one. 
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: mamacags on February 19, 2010, 07:44:22 AM
Unless my internets is mistaken it went down the skimmer hole.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: formerlurker on February 19, 2010, 07:45:04 AM
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Endangered Specie (1000+ posts)        Wed Feb-17-10 11:29 PM
Response to Original message
12. One slight problem... most of our military servicemen and women...
 are pro-gun. And I think its safe to say alot of them wouldn't go along with it... (that all enemies foreign and domestic thing) and they have BIG guns.

Plus, what foreign army would be stupid enough to try such a thing? Look at how much trouble insurgents in Iraq and Afghanistan have been giving us... armed with small arms. A bunch of trained gun owners would certainly stand a better chance versus whatever second rate military would get talked into doing this.



What a shame it wouldn't actually work eh Endangered halfwit?    

This is a thread Rush should be picking up.  
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 19, 2010, 08:58:20 AM



What a shame it wouldn't actually work eh Endangered halfwit?    

This is a thread Rush should be picking up.  

I expect that's exactly why it went into the cyber-shredder.  Too late to knock Donnie C out of his strong leap out of the starting gate in the race for the coveted title of "Top DUmmie - 2010," of course.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: asdf2231 on February 19, 2010, 09:10:11 AM
Yeah, because that worked out SOOOO well.  Heck, we didn't even need D-Day because of the "real resistance" in Europe during WWII.  Idiot.  Jackass.  Ignorant ****wad.

And after the war EVERY fat little hotel keeper or pudgy hooker who profitted handsomely claimed loudly to be a dedicated member of Le Resistance because they bygod overcharged 'em every single time. :whatever:
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 19, 2010, 09:30:16 AM
And after the war EVERY fat little hotel keeper or pudgy hooker who profitted handsomely claimed loudly to be a dedicated member of Le Resistance because they bygod overcharged 'em every single time. :whatever:

True.  In fact the 'Resistance' in France spent at least as much time trying to off each other (Gaullists vs. Commies) or even informing on each other to the Gestapo and Milice, as they did actually interfering with the Germans.  At least right up to the end with the Allies on the ground and advancing, anyway.  About then, they finally got ruthless on any hapless stray German soldiers unlucky enough to get in their way, because they correctly figured they'd get away with it.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: vesta111 on February 20, 2010, 06:19:28 AM
True.  In fact the 'Resistance' in France spent at least as much time trying to off each other (Gaullists vs. Commies) or even informing on each other to the Gestapo and Milice, as they did actually interfering with the Germans.  At least right up to the end with the Allies on the ground and advancing, anyway.  About then, they finally got ruthless on any hapless stray German soldiers unlucky enough to get in their way, because they correctly figured they'd get away with it.

Tanker, something I have wondered about since I spent the night with a Canadian male RN who claimed to have been with the French Foreign Legion.

----Gasp-----We were in a IC room at a hospital as a family member was on life support. I had gone in to bath and brush her hair, give what comfort I could to her.     

Anyway, late into the night the nurse who was Bord and I began to talk and  I had no idea the Foreign Legion still existed.   This had to have happend back in 1998 or so.

Because of my mental state at the time and the pasting years I only remember some of his comments about his service, I do remember him telling me he got out of the legion because he was getting too old for the physical exertion needed to tramp though jungles or deserts.   He was tired of being a mercenary.

By the time the sun came up my daughter had pulled through somehow, A Priest had come and gone giving her last rites, Amazing night, I went home and slept for 24 hours due to the exhaustion from  mental anguish and fear only a mother can have.

The Nurse was French Canadian I do not know if he used Riki or what ever on my daughter, he had no problem with me crawling into bed with her to hold and touch her, to talk to her as if she could hear me, BUT something happend to cause her to rally.   

She still lives on a slender thread, I do not know if it was science, religion, or a combination that worked.

French Foreign Legion, was this RN bull crapping me, if for real he became the most memorable person I have ever met.  If a phony, he still remains the most memorable person I have yet to meet.

The French are a strange people, I myself am 1/2 French Canadian and  found ancestors that died in France under strange circumstances before their family went to the New World.   

Sorry Tanker, I know this is rambling and out of kilter, I am trying to tell you what happend to me one night, a nightmare that was for real.

The French are a different breed I guess from others, born lovers, artists, scientists and people of very deep faith. Stubborn, hard headed, and at one time sold on the block in Boston as slaves next to the Africans.   

We are from Arcadian stock, somehow we survived the French and the British.

Please don't forget our LADY given to us from France, standing still tall and proud in the harbor of New York.

     




Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on February 20, 2010, 12:50:17 PM
La Legion Etrangere is very much alive, and an esteemed fighting force, though not a large one in size, certainly in glory.  You might want to Google for them, they have an official site from which you at least formerly could even download an MP3 of their famous march, Le Boudin.

They are truly mercenaries, they are a French national force which deploys only for the foreign policy goals of France, though the members come from all over the world, I have known one or two vets of it and seen them deployed in the Horn of Africa (HOA).  They must learn French as part of their training, which of course would have been no problem for a native of Quebec as your nurse friend apparently was.

The Legion was largely disbanded except for a minimum establishment after the revolt of the Legion paratroopers over Algerian independence and subsequent near-revolution in France in 1956-60, but as an all-volunteer force proved to be too valuable an instrument of policy to remain permanently banned.  As best I recall, the reason for this is some post-war quirk of French law that prevents the easy overseas deployment of French 'Metropolitan' forces overseas, flowing I believe from the losses of French citizen regulars in the IndoChina War, a disability from which the Legion does not suffer. 

They do have extraordinarily rigorous training, and by and large are deployed in numerous utter hell-holes like HOA.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: GOBUCKS on February 20, 2010, 01:30:04 PM
The Legion was largely disbanded except for a minimum establishment after the revolt of the Legion paratroopers over Algerian independence and subsequent near-revolution in France in 1956-60, but as an all-volunteer force proved to be too valuable an instrument of policy to remain permanently banned. 
I'm sure you're right. They would be invaluable to France. Since membership is limited to foreigners, they'd be the only French military organization not composed of cowards.
Title: Re: Poll question: Would you turn them in?
Post by: The Village Idiot on February 20, 2010, 01:36:02 PM
The Legion was largely disbanded except for a minimum establishment after the revolt of the Legion paratroopers over Algerian independence and subsequent near-revolution in France in 1956-60, but as an all-volunteer force proved to be too valuable an instrument of policy to remain permanently banned.  As best I recall, the reason for this is some post-war quirk of French law that prevents the easy overseas deployment of French 'Metropolitan' forces overseas, flowing I believe from the losses of French citizen regulars in the IndoChina War, a disability from which the Legion does not suffer. 

They do have extraordinarily rigorous training, and by and large are deployed in numerous utter hell-holes like HOA.

I think there are some in Fr. Guiana defending the ESA launch site.