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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Karin on February 17, 2010, 03:14:48 PM
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Mike K (129 posts) Wed Feb-17-10 01:05 PM
Original message
A Limit On Assets Accumulation?
I personally believe there should be a limit on how much assets any American citizen should be permitted to own. blah blah blah.
How do you feel about imposing a $20,000,000 limit on any individual citizen's accumulation of assets?
TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-17-10 01:08 PM
Response to Original message
1. As long as the excess that is confiscated by the government
doesn't go the the Defense budget and instead goes to Social Services and infrastructure, it's fine. It's not like I'll ever be affected by such a hypothetical.
Cleita (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-17-10 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #1
12. That's the principle behind the progressive tax structure.
I'm in favor of going back to the 90% tax for the highest income brackets although, unfortunately, much of it went to war back then. In some countries their constitutions have human rights written into them, like the right to health care, shelter, living wages, etc.. It forces their governments to deliver on those things. I am also for wealth taxes. Wealth taxes forces uber riche people to spread their wealth among their heirs and charitable foundations, making sure the fortune is broken up into smaller parcels so that there would be very few billionaires left in the system spreading the wealth around a larger group.
phantom power (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-17-10 02:40 PM
Response to Reply #33
34. That's exactly right...
On the other hand, wealthy people already deal with this problem, in the form of property taxes. If you want to keep a lot of non-liquid net worth around, then you can have a job and earn enough to pay the taxes.
Isn't that what the rich are always telling us? Get A Job.
anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-17-10 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. Assets and wealth that are just sitting around in private banks do nothing for society
Edited on Wed Feb-17-10 01:28 PM by anonymous171
The government should confiscate them and put them to good use for the community.
anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-17-10 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #21
22. This is an indirect banking regulation. It is one way that we could limit their influence
Then we could make community banks exempt from the cap and effectively eliminate private banks. I want to see bankers starving out on the street so I can berate them for being lazy and not working hard enough.
Snow Bird (63 posts) Wed Feb-17-10 01:18 PM
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11. As long as we're being silly here
you might as well propose a world wide, global limit of whatever arbitrary figure you want to set. If you don't you'll drive even more "assets" off shore than already occurs.
Dr. Strange (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-17-10 02:36 PM
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32. While we're at it...anyone with an IQ over 145 should be hit in the head.
You know, until their IQ is in the appropriate range.
Troll.
It's not a bad thread to read, not too long. Their cockamamie economic ideas!
ETA another commie comment from another thread.
blindpig (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-17-10 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
15. It is primarily our economic system which is not sustainable.
A rational production system where things are produced to meet people's needs and not to generate profits would go a long way towards lessening our load.
As per population, capitalism begets poverty for the majority and poverty begets higher replacement rate.
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Economic ignorance on parade, drunkenly tossing strings of beads and hoping to see some titties.
:retard:
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-17-10 01:08 PM
Response to Original message
1. As long as the excess that is confiscated by the government
doesn't go the the Defense budget and instead goes to Social Services and infrastructure, it's fine. It's not like I'll ever be affected by such a hypothetical.
The 2 biggest things DUmmies worry about. How much could/should the government take from productive citizens and that it will not EVER affect them personally.
What slugs.
KC
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts)
Wed Feb-17-10 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. Assets and wealth that are just sitting around in private banks do nothing for society
The government should confiscate them and put them to good use for the community.
Hey DUmbass. Wanna tell that to some of my renters? They have good homes because I provide them good homes. Some of my renters pay as little as $400/month. Nice homes in a nice neighborhood. That isn't good for the community? Come take them .... I dare ya.
KC
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Hey DUmbass. Wanna tell that to some of my renters? They have good homes because I provide them good homes. Some of my renters pay as little as $400/month. Nice homes in a nice neighborhood. That isn't good for the community? Come take them .... I dare ya.
KC
In the minds of the DUmmies, you would be responsible for the upkeep, and the tenants would get to live there free.
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Can't they just title their posts "Why I hate freedom and the US Constitution"? I would save a lot of time on their part.
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts)
Wed Feb-17-10 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. Assets and wealth that are just sitting around in private banks do nothing for society
The government should confiscate them and put them to good use for the community.
And after the first year when banks cease to be a safe haven where will people put their money, where will loans come from and where will you get the money to fund your pony acquisitions?
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It scares me to think that there are adults out there that really think this way.
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts)
Wed Feb-17-10 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. Assets and wealth that are just sitting around in private banks do nothing for society
The government should confiscate them and put them to good use for the community.
WOW, that statement is one screaming wad of pure D damn stupid. :mental:
Now granted the DUmmies $2.87 savings account is there waiting for him to come withdraw it the next time he has the munchies for some Cheetos. If he thinks the days deposit from his local Walmart is sitting there in the vault waiting on them to come by to spend it then someone is in for a rude awakening.
Hey DUmmies, Millionaires are NOT like Scrooge McDuck. They don't go down to the basement and pry open a vault and swim naked in the cash. The money goes out and does things, mainly make more money for the owner. Idle money doesn't do anything for anyone.
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts)
Wed Feb-17-10 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #9
13. Assets and wealth that are just sitting around in private banks do nothing for society
The government should confiscate them and put them to good use for the community.
DUmmy anonymousnumbers is either explaining a democrat's understanding of the banking system, or he's a mole stirring the pot. Democrats actually believe that when you deposit money at a bank, they just stack it up inside a vault, and it stays there until you withdraw it. And regardless what they do with it, the democrat party philosophy is that the government should take it. I have a hunch he's a mole.
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The mostest giftedest and talentedest to the rescue!!111!!1eleventy
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Some Dummies realize that it's not sitting in the bank. There are the one's that say we need to abolish fractional reserve banking so that it would be. It's pointless to tell them they wouldn't get welfare, pot, or cheetoes if they got their way.
Idiots one and all.
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And after the first year when banks cease to be a safe haven where will people put their money, where will loans come from and where will you get the money to fund your pony acquisitions?
So much stoopid. Just so much stoopid.
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Wonder DU powers activate!
I think we need to redistribute all land in America. We would each be given about 150 acres to work with as we please and we can even lease it corporations. That way we would all be rich!!!!!1111111!!eleventy
wonder DU powers deactivate!
Um... okay... morons
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Feb-17-10 01:10 PM
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5. get rid of taxable income caps and let them pay for the country that allowed them to become rich
Say what?
There's a taxable income cap?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Journal Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list Click to add this author to your Ignore list Wed Feb-17-10 05:25 PM
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48. I think a 100% inheritance tax is a much better idea
Let's see how much wealth someone can accumulate if they don't start out with millions from mommy and daddy.
Great idea. Let's start with the Kennedy family and seize all that they have since it's inherited wealth.
They really need to rename that place to CommunistUnderground.
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wonder DU powers deactivate!
Form of... a mental paitent with internet privileges!
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Say what?
There's a taxable income cap?
The only cap like that I know of is at the bottom. There is a cap to how much you can make before you start paying taxes. Maybe the DUmmie wants the poor to start paying their share?
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The only cap like that I know of is at the bottom. There is a cap to how much you can make before you start paying taxes. Maybe the DUmmie wants the poor to start paying their share?
That is why they tax cigarettes and sell lottery tickets.
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Form of... a mental paitent with internet privileges!
:lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
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:lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
That works, the twin was form of global warming
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It scares me to think that there are adults out there that really think this way.
Mental illness is truly a terrible thing. So is socialism/communism, and the two are joined at the hip.
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:lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf: :lmao: :rotf:
Its even worse when they try to make them serious...
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DU Powers activate!!
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My BIL lives with his girlfriend who has a child. She got back $5k (my BIL told my husband this) in EIC. My BIL got back money too. These idiots spent their "windfall" on a flat screen TV and a trip to Vegas. My BIL owes his parents well over $10k (for legal bills from his divorce) and his girlfriend owes a lot in CC bills. Although they aren't political, they have the same mentality as DU. I bet they already are back to never having money and hocking items to pay the rent. Both of them are gainfully employed yet perpetually late paying bills yet always seem to have money to buy hard liquor and cigarettes.
It pisses me off that we are paying for this kind of shit. When you have 50% of Americans not paying anything in taxes, it's a wonder that anyone other then a liberal gets elected.
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Let's see how much wealth someone can accumulate if they don't start out with millions from mommy and daddy.
Would they be so fast to push for that, knowing that liberals tend to inherit wealth while conservatives tend to make their own fortunes? Look no further than the Roll Call richest Senators/Congressmen if you don't believe me, lurking DUmmies.
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Would they be so fast to push for that, knowing that liberals tend to inherit wealth while conservatives tend to make their own fortunes? Look no further than the Roll Call richest Senators/Congressmen if you don't believe me, lurking DUmmies.
I guess Hollywierd counts as "earning" it.
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-17-10 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
15. It is primarily our economic system which is not sustainable.
A rational production system where things are produced to meet people's needs and not to generate profits would go a long way towards lessening our load.
As per population, capitalism begets poverty for the majority and poverty begets higher replacement rate.
Yeah, just like the collective farms of the old Soviet Union, where the farmers' personal plots were tended well to feed their families and the state portions of the farms were tended poorly and produced little. People aren't going to bust their asses to feed or produce for some faceless "other" they don't know. Especially with no evidence that that other is pulling his or her own weight.
Those who do not learn from history are condemned to become DUers.
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-17-10 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
15. It is primarily our economic system which is not sustainable.
A rational production system where things are produced to meet people's needs and not to generate profits would go a long way towards lessening our load.
As per population, capitalism begets poverty for the majority and poverty begets higher replacement rate.
Without profit what would they tax? Government programs don't just pay for themselves.
Cindie
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Without profit what would they tax? Government programs don't just pay for themselves.
Cindie
Sure they do, after all, the gubmint prints the money doncha know! At least that's how Barry deals with it!
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Without profit what would they tax? Government programs don't just pay for themselves.
Cindie
That question probably never crosses their minds.
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I think we should redistribute the DUmmies dope stash....confiscate all the pot, pills, crack, hash, etc. and spread it around...doesn't matter wheather you use it or not... take it and spread it around....if you don't use just flush it down the toilet...hell, that's what the government does with your money when they take it from you and give it to the DUmmies.
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I think it's time to move this to the DUmping Ground's "Posts that stand alone" or to Mind Numbing Stupidity.
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blindpig (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-17-10 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #1
15. It is primarily our economic system which is not sustainable.
A rational production system where things are produced to meet people's needs and not to generate profits would go a long way towards lessening our load.
As per population, capitalism begets poverty for the majority and poverty begets higher replacement rate.
Raise spending above 100% of GDP, tax whatever's left and then claim its the system that's broke.
Dumbasses.
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Sure they do, after all, the gubmint prints the money doncha know! At least that's how Barry deals with it!
That's kinda the approach the old Soviet Union took. Ever see a ruble from back then? Stamped out of aluminum, no intrinsic metal value at all. Worthless in foreign exchange, which (Aside from the inherent inefficiency of a command economy) had a whole lot to do with why we kicked their ass so badly in the economics of the Cold War.
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dandi said:
People aren't going to bust their asses to feed or produce for some faceless "other" they don't know.
And alot of these "others" I actively despise, such as DUmmies and other assorted internet trolls who loathe the capitalist pigs who seemingly ignore a "collective greater good."
I will give one DUmmie credit concerning this thread. He said "This is by far the worst thread I have ever read on DU."