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Title: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: Texacon on February 13, 2010, 04:19:45 PM
As long as it's paid for with someone elses money ..... :whatever: (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7705228)



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Go2Peace (1000+ posts)     

Sat Feb-13-10 03:57 AM
Original message

It's time for a minimum vacation law
 
Edited on Sat Feb-13-10 04:22 AM by Go2Peace

Some full time jobs in our country actually work people 51-52 weeks a year. Isn't that almost like slavery? Why not at least a 2 week (10 working day) minimum vacation requirement for someone working at least half time?
Here is some comparative information for other countries:

Keep in mind, these are legal *Minimums*

Australia
Not required, but 28 days is standard. Additional Long service leave is also payable.
"Long Service Leave" - 2 Months Payed "Sabbatical" after 7-10 years with an employer

Austria
35 days, for elderly employees 42 days

Belgium
20 days, premium pay

Bulgaria
minimum 20 working days

Croatia
18 working days

Czech Republic
4 weeks

Denmark
6 weeks, of which 5 days can be "sold" back to the employer - omsorgsdage (carer’s leave).

Finland
35 days

France
5 weeks + 2 weeks of RTT (Reduction du Temps de Travail, in English : Reduction of Working Time) = 7 weeks. The most significant vacation time of any country in the world.

Germany
4 weeks (24 "workable" days, i.e. Mo to Sa, even if the working week is Mo to Fri), plus 9 to 13 bank holidays

Hungary
20 working days

Ireland
20 days, plus 9 public holidays

Israel
14 days

Italy
20-30 days plus 12 public holidays

Latvia
4 weeks

Netherlands
4 weeks
New Zealand
4 weeks as of April 1, 2007

Norway
25 working days

Poland
20 business days, 26 business days after 10 years of employment

Romania
minimum 20 working days

Spain
30 calendar days

Sweden
25-32 working days, depending on age

Switzerland
28 days

Ukraine
24 calendar days

United Kingdom
20 calendar days, plus 8 bank holidays


How much vacation do people *average*?

http://tinyurl.com/How-Much-Vacation-avg

I will say again.  I think all these people should have to run a business and make it successful at least once.

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hansont (37 posts)     

Sat Feb-13-10 04:09 AM
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1. Work at Wal-Mart? 1 week *after* a year. Only Christmas and Thanksgiving off

*GASP*  OMG!!  Do you mean to tell me they want you to work BEFORE you get a vacation?!  Say it ain't so!!  They should hire you one day and give you the first week off paid!!!!  Those Bastards!

Now some truth gets spoken but     every     single     DUmmie     misses it.

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paulsby  (1000+ posts)     

Sat Feb-13-10 09:14 AM
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23. yes, that 4 month break was BRUTAL
 brutal i tell you.

otoh, when i returned to work my uniform pants didn't fit.

i know more than a few officers who enjoyed similar breaks due to "administrative leave" but i have never been so lucky, or unlucky, depending on the circ's of same.

of course when i returned, little had changed. my dept. still suffers from mind numbingly stupid inefficiencies (welcome to govt. work), criminals were still doing their thang (they missed me. well, actually two did say they missed me  ), some people were still driving like complete morons, innocent people were still being victimized by scum, and the average good people were going about their daily lives w/o my help.
 

Quite a bit more at the thread.

Have fun.

KC
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: Airwolf on February 13, 2010, 04:35:35 PM
Yes lets be like France. Amyone else remember that little incident when all of France was off during the Summer and alot of people died because no one was around to go to their aid?
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: Mike220 on February 13, 2010, 05:50:55 PM
And who the **** thinks government can force me to take a vacation? I like a day here, a few days there, but if I want and choose (still allowed, right?) to work 52 weeks a year, who can tell me differently? **** me, the DUmbasses want minute governmental control of everyone's lives. I just can't understand their thought process (and that's assuming that they actually think).
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: ColonialMarine0431 on February 13, 2010, 06:02:07 PM
Man. Those people are truly ****ed in the head. These people would never have survived 200 years ago in America when people worked from sun-up to sun-set to survive.

People like DUmmies are a cancer on society. When you have cancer there are two options; treat it, or cut it out and kill it.
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: franksolich on February 13, 2010, 06:31:22 PM
(and that's assuming that they actually think)

That's a rather brave--and rash--assumption, sir.
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: ChuckJ on February 13, 2010, 06:48:29 PM
Now that the DUmmie mentions it I didn't have a vacation last year because I couldn't afford one. Maybe if I set up a Paypal account all of the "minimum vacation law" DUmmies will chip in part of their money so I can take two weeks off this year.
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: GOBUCKS on February 13, 2010, 06:55:12 PM
And who the **** thinks government can force me to take a vacation? I like a day here, a few days there, but if I want and choose (still allowed, right?) to work 52 weeks a year, who can tell me differently? **** me, the DUmbasses want minute governmental control of everyone's lives. I just can't understand their thought process (and that's assuming that they actually think).
A socialist government can force it. Until very recently, France had a law that mandated 35-hour work weeks. Government agents would actually raid offices after normal hours and question anyone there about why they were in the office and how long they had been there. The short week was a law that was actually enforced.
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: thundley4 on February 13, 2010, 06:57:31 PM
Now, I feel bad for the DUmmies. I have less than 145 days of scheduled work each year.
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: Specbid on February 13, 2010, 07:02:12 PM

Isn't it interesting how DUmmies never start threads about working harder to be successful? Or, starting their own business to be successful? Or investing wisely to be successful? Always gimme, gimme, gimme...more holiday, more benefits, more free shit...someone else pays...cool. I have to work hard? This country sucks...hey DUmmasses... :bigbird: :bigbird: :bigbird:
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: franksolich on February 13, 2010, 07:04:30 PM
Now, I feel bad for the DUmmies. I have less than 145 days of scheduled work each year.

I never thought about it before, sir.

By my rough calculations, I work 150 days a year.

Which means I'm on vacation the other 215 days.
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: Carl on February 13, 2010, 07:34:42 PM
Why does it escape these fools that a company will try to retain a good employee but will not a bad one?


Nevermind,ignore that question.
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: GOBUCKS on February 13, 2010, 07:47:06 PM
It sounds like most of the DUmp has 365 days off already.
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: thundley4 on February 13, 2010, 07:53:55 PM
I never thought about it before, sir.

By my rough calculations, I work 150 days a year.

Which means I'm on vacation the other 215 days.

Those 145 days are only 12 hour days, so effectively I  work less than 72  days since there are some Holidays that I get off.

Even someone working a 40 hour , 5 day/week job works less than 90 days a year.
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: BlueStateSaint on February 13, 2010, 07:59:39 PM
People like DUmmies are a cancer on society. When you have cancer there are two options; treat it, or cut it out and kill it.

But, the DUmb****s take the third option:  Bitch and moan about it until it kills them.  They think that society should follow their "lead."
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: Lord Undies on February 13, 2010, 08:00:18 PM
Is that school teachers I see in those orange vest cleaning up the side of the highways during Summer?
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: thundley4 on February 13, 2010, 08:07:15 PM
Is that school teachers I see in those orange vest cleaning up the side of the highways during Summer?

Some of them could be ex-teachers, the ones the system actually managed to catch and prosecute.  :fuelfire:
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: The Village Idiot on February 13, 2010, 08:12:00 PM
Yes lets be like France. Amyone else remember that little incident when all of France was off during the Summer and alot of people died because no one was around to go to their aid?

You mean the little heat wave that killed thousands of people because hospitals and nursing homes had no A/C? Makes France sound wonderful. heh.
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: The Village Idiot on February 13, 2010, 08:13:51 PM
I never thought about it before, sir.

By my rough calculations, I work 150 days a year.


I think we need to force the unworkers to work at least 2 weeks a year. heh
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: The Village Idiot on February 13, 2010, 08:14:40 PM
Some of them could be ex-teachers, the ones the system actually managed to catch and prosecute.  :fuelfire:

lol
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: Mike220 on February 13, 2010, 09:24:39 PM
That's a rather brave--and rash--assumption, sir.

True, coach, but I was feeling generous at the time. Good thing it lasted for that one post.
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: Randy on February 14, 2010, 04:33:28 AM
Is that school teachers I see in those orange vest cleaning up the side of the highways during Summer?

For the most part and those that aren't there should be. :-)
Title: Re: It's time for a minimum vacation law
Post by: NHSparky on February 14, 2010, 08:03:20 AM
Dear DUmmies--I average over 50 hours a week, and no, it's not slavery.  It's called overtime.  Oh, and I can't afford to take more vacations because of how much money I have to send to Unca Obammy's Hopey-Changey Club.