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Current Events => Terrorism In the US and Around the World => Topic started by: thundley4 on February 12, 2010, 10:43:54 AM
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Saying that body scanners violate Islamic law, Muslim-American groups are supporting a “fatwa†– a religious ruling – that forbids Muslims from going through the scanners at airports.
The Fiqh Council of North America – a body of Islamic scholars that includes some from Michigan – issued a fatwa this week that says going through the airport scanners would violate Islamic rules on modesty.
“It is a violation of clear Islamic teachings that men or women be seen naked by other men and women,†reads the fatwa issued Tuesday. “Islam highly emphasizes haya (modesty) and considers it part of faith. The Quran has commanded the believers, both men and women, to cover their private parts.â€
The decision could complicate efforts to intensify screening of potential terrorists who are Muslim. After the Christmas Day bombing attempt in Detroit by a Muslim suspect from Nigeria, some have called for the use of body scanners at airports to find explosives and other dangerous materials carried by terrorists. Some airports are now in the process of buying and using the body scanners, which show in graphic detail the outlines of a person’s body.
But Muslim groups say the scanners go against their religion. One option offered to passengers who don’t want to use the scanners would be a pat down by a security guard. The Muslim groups are urging members to undergo those instead.
Freep.com (http://www.freep.com/article/20100211/NEWS05/100211044/1318/Airport-body-scanners-violate-Islamic-law-Muslims-say)
Muslim Law violates human dignity, in the way it treats women, so :pisscontest: on you. I have a second idea to avoid the scanners, don't fly.
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**** 'em. Hard. And leave 'em panting. :bigbird:
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Simple solution....
No more flying for the Muslims.
Won't bother me a bit. I'm tired of looking at every damn one of them - and at all the stuff they are carrying - before I get on a plane....and wondering if they are who they appear to be or if they are going to blow up the airport or airplane.
And it really bugs me that I'm the one getting pulled over going through security....and they walk right through!
I don't mind being "wanded"....but I've yet to set a middle eastern appearing person over there with me! :censored:
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The Quran has commanded the believers, both men and women, to cover their private parts.â€
Hmmm... and our laws require us to cover our private parts. So we don't have to go through either! :-)
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It's their fault we have to got through this crap in the first place.
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Gonna be hard to fly that Prius into a building, ain't it Achmed? Sucks for you, bud.
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Terror Talk Growing Louder on the Web
Exclusive: U.S. Intel Officials Seeing Spike in al Qaeda-Linked Internet Chatter Focused on Ways to Thwart Airport Security
On one radical website, a writer invites fellow members to post information on how to bypass airport screening.
Another member asks about explosive detection devices, writing: "We have that system in place in Algiers...does anyone know if it's capable of detecting [the flammable gas] butane?"
On another Jihadist site, a visitor questions security involving 3D scanners at British airports asking: "Can I refuse [to pass through] for religious reasons?"
Perhaps most disturbing -- the recent discovery of a confidential TSA document on a Yemeni Web site discussing the rules for searching passengers.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/12/cbsnews_investigates/main6202853.shtml
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Simple solution....
No more flying for the Muslims.
Won't bother me a bit. I'm tired of looking at every damn one of them - and at all the stuff they are carrying - before I get on a plane....and wondering if they are who they appear to be or if they are going to blow up the airport or airplane.
And it really bugs me that I'm the one getting pulled over going through security....and they walk right through!
I don't mind being "wanded"....but I've yet to set a middle eastern appearing person over there with me! :censored:
+1. Tough shit Abdul.
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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/02/12/cbsnews_investigates/main6202853.shtml
There's the real story....
Political correctness kills.
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+1. Tough shit Abdul.
+2
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Screw your laws and your customs. Don't like it here, take a slow boat to China.
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The only real danger in flying is muslims. If the Queeran and political correctness exempts them, there's no purpose served by the scanners.
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Screw your laws and your customs. Don't like it here, take a slow boat to China.
Or an express to Hell.
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Good!
Then stay the hell off our planes.
See? Easy fix.
BTW... While you are at it; eat shit and bark at the moon you freaking lunatics.
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Oh, I see CAIR and other Islamic groups are whining again, but a fatwah against a machine??? Whatever . . .
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Oh, I see CAIR and other Islamic groups are whining again, but a fatwah against a machine??? Whatever . . .
Is that anything like (impotent) Rage Against the Machine? :-)
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+1. Tough shit Abdul.
That's about what I was going to say. I would have said, "Tough shit, if you don't like the body scanners in place to try to protect American citizens from fruitcakes like yourself, go the hell back to whatever Arab hellhole you came from and kill each other. Otherwise, shut the hell up.
:hammer: :hi5: :censored: :censored:
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Of course, there is no requirement that people have to go through the scanners in the first place.
Anybody has the right to refuse to go through them. Of course, then you have to submit to a hand pat-down and wanding, which is probably even more invasive.
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If it keeps the radicals off the planes, I'm cool with TSA watching my fat ol' nekkidity all they care to.
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**** 'em. Shoot 'em if they won't go through.
I'm a bit of a hardliner. :lmao:
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Oh, I see CAIR and other Islamic groups are whining again, but a fatwah against a machine??? Whatever . . .
The Center for Angry Islamic Radicals complaining ? how unusual.... ::)
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My word, so now if we allow this crap then we have to allow the same to other faiths and there has to be be about 3000 of them in the world.
Darn it all, we do not MAKE Muslims fly, eat pork, own dogs or wander about bare headed. All people of all faith has the RIGHT to live as they wish, sort of. We only interfear when virgins are thrown into volcano's, Mormons marry 12 year olds or American Indians use a certain root plant to see the future.
One must do what one must do, it is up to them to decide how they live and not force it on others.
This crap is indeed messing with separation between Church and State. To demand Federal laws to exempt them from from the law because of their religion is to place us in a fine pickle. Should the Jews demand no travel of any kind between sunset Friday and sun up Saturday.? Shut down the airports for the Sabbath.
How about the flights that still serve food, will they go to all fish dinners on Fridays to satisfy the Catholics.
Here's a good one, what does a Muslim do when flying alone and the person in the next seat orders a rum and coke and a ham sandwitch.
This is insane, no one makes anyone go anywhere, people choose to go and must put up with what rules and regulations are in force.
It is the travelers option to go by air rail or boat, it is not up to the federal government to accommodate one group or another.Why this question even comes up in America is mind boggling.
The saying " It comes with the territory" comes to mind.