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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on February 07, 2010, 09:09:29 AM
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=231x20334
Oh my.
Well, whatever rocks one's chair, it's all good.
rainbow4321 (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-31-10 04:00 PM
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Just started vegetarianism
And am really enjoying finding all the variety of meatless options out there. I could live at Whole Foods now.
Anyone else notice having less of an appetite after becoming a vegetarian? I don't have the munchies in between meals, I have to really make a point of remembering that's mealtime otherwise lunch or dinner time passes without me noticing it cuz I have no feelings of hunger/wanting to eat.
It's an odd feeling but I don't miss my old way of eating at ALL.
flvegan (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-31-10 06:54 PM
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1. Congratulations!!
I eat much smaller meals now than I did as a meat-eater, but I still eat just as often (5-6 meals a day) so I don't really notice if I'm hungry or not.
I'm glad to hear that it seems to be working for you!
LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-31-10 09:24 PM
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2. I've never noticed a loss of appetite.
But I've always eaten enough for any three people my size, omni, vegetarian or vegan. It's a bit of a running joke among people I grew up with, even.
Anyhow, congrats! Please let us know if you need any help with anything.
Elad ADMIN (1000+ posts) Sun Jan-31-10 09:40 PM
THE ELUSIVE ENIGMATIC ELAD
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3. Eating more fiber and more nutritious food can reduce appetite because you're nourishing your body better. Often if your diet is lacking in something your body wants you will feel hungry, which is your body's way of telling you it's not getting something it needs. So if you correct that imbalance (say by eating more fruits and vegetables after going vegetarian) hunger decreases.
Fiber also helps with reducing appetite, as its bulk makes you feel physically full, and it slows down the absorption of nutrients, in particular sugars/starches, which gives you a more even energy boost from your meal, so you don't need to eat again right away. Again, if you're eating more fruits, vegetables, and whole grains after switching your fiber intake probably went up.
Congrats on the switch!
Qanisqineq (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-05-10 11:15 PM
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4. I am slowly working on becoming vegetarian
I only eat chicken now (except I ate pork at Christmas and once last spring). I haven't had beef in about a year. Last summer, I was cutting down on the amount of chicken I ate, and I was eating a lot of the Morningstar crumbles, patties, etc. Then I found out I am gluten intolerant. After that I started eating more chicken and ground turkey again. I am trying to cut down on those now that I can (almost) figured out what I can and cannot eat. It doesn't help that my husband is a meat eater.
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Qanisqineq (1000+ posts) Fri Feb-05-10 11:15 PM
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4. I am slowly working on becoming vegetarian
I only eat chicken now (except I ate pork at Christmas and once last spring). I haven't had beef in about a year. Last summer, I was cutting down on the amount of chicken I ate, and I was eating a lot of the Morningstar crumbles, patties, etc. Then I found out I am gluten intolerant. After that I started eating more chicken and ground turkey again. I am trying to cut down on those now that I can (almost) figured out what I can and cannot eat. It doesn't help that my husband is a meat eater.
I can see that you wouldn't want to make a sudden change to one's diet, however this is taking gradual to epic proportions. So here for no cost is Bijou's patent method for becoming vegetarian: don't eat meat, substitute meat with vegetables, pulses and nuts and dairy produce. :-)
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Was it not $kinner's kneeling man in waiting...Elad, who wanted to FORCE his CAT to be a VEGETARIAN?
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DUmmie says, "Often if your diet is lacking in something your body wants you will feel hungry, which is your body's way of telling you it's not getting something it needs."....and my body is telling me I need a steak.
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Was it not $kinner's kneeling man in waiting...Elad, who wanted to FORCE his CAT to be a VEGETARIAN?
Yeah.
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5-6 small meals a day is what you're supposed to eat to lose weight so no big surprises there.
The feeling fuller is due to all that gas and bloating that rotting vegetation puts off.
Vegans are the unhealthiest people on the planet. You can spot one easily in a crowd visually and via smell.
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lunch or dinner time passes without me noticing it cuz I have no feelings of hunger/wanting to eat.
I agree with the DUmmy. I'd feel the same way if I knew there was no meat in the house.
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Was it not $kinner's kneeling man in waiting...Elad, who wanted to FORCE his CAT to be a VEGETARIAN?
:rotf:
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5-6 small meals a day is what you're supposed to eat to lose weight so no big surprises there.
The feeling fuller is due to all that gas and bloating that rotting vegetation puts off.
Vegans are the unhealthiest people on the planet. You can spot one easily in a crowd visually and via smell.
Exactly! I've never seen one that could hold it's hands above it's head for longer than 3 minutes! Without the protien from meat you get nothing to replace muscle tissue. Every one of them I've ever met looked anemic to the max!
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Exactly! I've never seen one that could hold it's hands above it's head for longer than 3 minutes! Without the protien from meat you get nothing to replace muscle tissue. Every one of them I've ever met looked anemic to the max!
Yep, pasty looking, and flabby for a thin person.
Anyone else notice having less of an appetite after becoming a vegetarian?
Like Gobucks said, if there were nothing but vegetables in the house, I'd not have an appetite either.
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My son's girlfriend is a vegetarian.
Has been since a wee little kid....she flat out doesn't like meat, and apparently never has. She said it really worried her mother when she was little and wouldn't eat.
I don't know how she stays healthy as she seems to have an addiction to Cheezits and red licorice. :whatever:
I really worried about feeding her the first time she came to visit. When she was here for ten days after Christmas, I just made sure I had macaroni and cheese made for her. She doesn't eat any of that fake meat stuff...
She's solid muscle somehow. She did competitive gymnastics from a small child through high school, and now she's a pole vaulter for UNeb-Kearney. She may be 5 foot tall on a very tall day. :uhsure:
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My son's girlfriend is a vegetarian.
Has been since a wee little kid....she flat out doesn't like meat, and apparently never has. She said it really worried her mother when she was little and wouldn't eat.
I don't know how she stays healthy as she seems to have an addiction to Cheezits and red licorice. :whatever:
I really worried about feeding her the first time she came to visit. When she was here for ten days after Christmas, I just made sure I had macaroni and cheese made for her. She doesn't eat any of that fake meat stuff...
She's solid muscle somehow. She did competitive gymnastics from a small child through high school, and now she's a pole vaulter for UNeb-Kearney. She may be 5 foot tall on a very tall day. :uhsure:
I would think she has to be the exception to the rule though. You can obtain protien from other sources, but it's damn difficult to maintain muscle mass without meat, especially for an athlete.
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I would think she has to be the exception to the rule though. You can obtain protien from other sources, but it's damn difficult to maintain muscle mass without meat, especially for an athlete.
I know.....that's how I don't know how she does it. The child is built like a "brick outhouse".
The only thing I can figure out, is that because her body has basically never had meat protein...it doesn't know to miss it. And that she started gymnastics when she was 4 and practiced daily.
She is also a sprint runner for the track team.
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I know.....that's how I don't know how she does it. The child is built like a "brick outhouse".
The only thing I can figure out, is that because her body has basically never had meat protein...it doesn't know to miss it. And that she started gymnastics when she was 4 and practiced daily.
She is also a sprint runner for the track team.
Would depend if she's a vegan or vegetarian because vegetarians do have more choices. But soy milk and protein powder (you can get vegan ones) are good sources. Adding vital wheat gluten to bread recipes also ups the protein content in breads.
Cindie
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Pasta without meat sauce is like eating paste! Yet I hear runners regularly eat it that way. Could 'splain the "sprinter" part.
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Pasta without meat sauce is like eating paste! Yet I hear runners regularly eat it that way. Could 'splain the "sprinter" part.
I never at pasta with meat sauce until I was in my teens.....I only wanted butter and cheese on it.
Cindie...what's the difference between a vegan and a vegetarian? No animal products?
I know she eats a lot of cheese and drinks a lot of milk. She doesn't like fish or seafood. I don't think she became a vegetarian out of some sense of saving animals or whatever. She has just never liked the taste of meat or fish.
She has no problem being around people that do eat meat.
I really don't know how she survives and is healthy...she's not much of a vegetable eater either.
If my son marries her, he's going to have to really perfect his cooking skills or he will starve!!
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I never at pasta with meat sauce until I was in my teens.....I only wanted butter and cheese on it.
Cindie...what's the difference between a vegan and a vegetarian? No animal products?
I know she eats a lot of cheese and drinks a lot of milk. She doesn't like fish or seafood. I don't think she became a vegetarian out of some sense of saving animals or whatever. She has just never liked the taste of meat or fish.
She has no problem being around people that do eat meat.
I really don't know how she survives and is healthy...she's not much of a vegetable eater either.
If my son marries her, he's going to have to really perfect his cooking skills or he will starve!!
Naw! Every good son knows how to burn a steak!
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Naw! Every good son knows how to burn a steak!
That he does.
He was telling his buddies that were here last night that she doesn't know how to cook anything other than mac and cheese and grilled cheese sandwiches.
One of the guys said...."so if you get married...you guys will be living here with your mom?" :fuelfire:
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One of the guys said...."so if you get married...you guys will be living here with your mom?" :fuelfire:
:rotf: :rotf:
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I know she eats a lot of cheese and drinks a lot of milk. She doesn't like fish or seafood. I don't think she became a vegetarian out of some sense of saving animals or whatever. She has just never liked the taste of meat or fish.
She has no problem being around people that do eat meat.
I really don't know how she survives and is healthy...she's not much of a vegetable eater either.
Well, it could be that she's just a natural vegetarian, and not a political one.
With billions of people in the world today, and the billions who have lived but are now gone, I imagine there's been billions of bodies reacting differently to different substances.
If she's healthy, she's probably one of the lucky ones, stumbling upon a diet that keeps her healthy. It might not work for anybody else, but if it works for her, and she's healthy, it's all good.
Another clue that it's just natural for her is apparently she doesn't make a big deal about it.
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I've never been able to understand why anyone would choose to be a vegetarian. It isn't fair, but in our culture, they make themselves semi-pariahs socially. In any social setting, people with normal diets, especially hosts, are uncomfortable around them, afraid they'll offend the grazer. The easy solution is avoidance.
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I've never been able to understand why anyone would choose to be a vegetarian. It isn't fair, but in our culture, they make themselves semi-pariahs socially. In any social setting, people with normal diets, especially hosts, are uncomfortable around them, afraid they'll offend the grazer. The easy solution is avoidance.
That's what annoys me about political vegetarians; they purposely make themselves obnoxious to other people, and then get all upset and bent out of shape because we don't "love" them.
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I never at pasta with meat sauce until I was in my teens.....I only wanted butter and cheese on it.
Cindie...what's the difference between a vegan and a vegetarian? No animal products?
I know she eats a lot of cheese and drinks a lot of milk. She doesn't like fish or seafood. I don't think she became a vegetarian out of some sense of saving animals or whatever. She has just never liked the taste of meat or fish.
She has no problem being around people that do eat meat.
I really don't know how she survives and is healthy...she's not much of a vegetable eater either.
If my son marries her, he's going to have to really perfect his cooking skills or he will starve!!
Generally, a vegetarian will eat milk, cheese, and (sometimes) eggs. A vegan will eat nothing that comes from an animal. They'd rather pull some poor, defenseless carrot out of the ground by its top while it silently screams in pain.
Cindie
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Generally, a vegetarian will eat milk, cheese, and (sometimes) eggs. A vegan will eat nothing that comes from an animal. They'd rather pull some poor, defenseless carrot out of the ground by its top while it silently screams in pain.
Cindie
I wonder how they feel about all those acres of animal habitat that were destroyed so they could munch on a carrot.
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Aren't there veggie-tarians who eat fish?
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Aren't there veggie-tarians who eat fish?
Yes, those are called pesce-vegetarians.
This website is a good reference for the different types of vegetarians.
http://www.passionatevegetarian.com/vegetarian_types.htm
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Yes, those are called pesce-vegetarians.
I find most vegetarians pretty damned pesky, if you ask me. (And that's putting it quite mildly). :-)
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I find most vegetarians pretty damned pesky, if you ask me. (And that's putting it quite mildly). :-)
:werd: Yeah. For real. My buddy and his wife became "political vegetarians" Yet, they still wear their leather shoes, and sit on their leather sofa. It friggin annoys the crap out of me. God bless. I cannot tolerate half-assed anything.
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Generally, a vegetarian will eat milk, cheese, and (sometimes) eggs. A vegan will eat nothing that comes from an animal. They'd rather pull some poor, defenseless carrot out of the ground by its top while it silently screams in pain.
Cindie
Not to mention all the animals that are killed to grow and harvest that carrot. These are the people that abuse their cats by thinking that a vegan diet is good for them. A dog can get by if it is done properly but it will kill a cat. They need taurine that is only found in dead animals. There is no synthetic version.
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Yes, those are called pesce-vegetarians.
This website is a good reference for the different types of vegetarians.
http://www.passionatevegetarian.com/vegetarian_types.htm
What are the bacon eating vegetarians called?
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What are the bacon eating vegetarians called?
Smart.
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What are the bacon eating vegetarians called?
What about people who eat seafood, meat, and all vegetables except beets and that slimy okra? We demand respect!
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Yes, those are called pesce-vegetarians.
(http://img.listal.com/image/404261/500full-goodfellas-photo.jpg)
Joe Pesci :whatever:
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What about people who eat seafood, meat, and all vegetables except beets and that slimy okra? We demand respect!
okraphobictarians?
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Yes, those are called pesce-vegetarians.
Nearly all pesci-vegetarians are yutes.
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Not to mention all the animals that are killed to grow and harvest that carrot. These are the people that abuse their cats by thinking that a vegan diet is good for them. A dog can get by if it is done properly but it will kill a cat. They need taurine that is only found in dead animals. There is no synthetic version.
Best thing I ever did was start feeding my dogs and cats a raw meat diet. Even my 14 year old Australian Shepherd is active and spry. I'm pretty sure it's what allowed my other Aussie (who was VERY LARGE, especially for the breed) live to be 15. He was even active the morning before he died, up and underfoot wanting his breakfast NOW!
Cindie
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Best thing I ever did was start feeding my dogs and cats a raw meat diet. Even my 14 year old Australian Shepherd is active and spry. I'm pretty sure it's what allowed my other Aussie (who was VERY LARGE, especially for the breed) live to be 15. He was even active the morning before he died, up and underfoot wanting his breakfast NOW!
Cindie
Yep! Raw meat and lots of bones! Marrow is something a dog just has to have in their diet.