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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: franksolich on February 06, 2010, 08:09:01 AM
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Yesterday (Friday) evening, I checked my clarebootheluce e-mail, finding a complaint from someone on Skins's island, alleging I had been unfair in my depiction of a situation.
I was floored by receipt of the message, because while I've watched the primitives for nine years, and commented upon the primitives for seven, this was the very first time I've ever heard anything from Skins's island, first hand.
I've always envied decent and civilized people who carry on dialogues with primitives directly and first hand, but of course those are people more prominent than I; probably 99% of the primitives aren't even aware franksolich exists.
Over the years, there's been a few times I've heard from a primitive--most notably Pedro Picasso and a couple of the acolytes of the late red round one--but only third hand, never directly.
I read the missive, and the primitive from Skins's island convinced me I was being rather, uh, too judgemental. The explanation was straightforward and utterly credible; it of course included confidential details not revealed on Skins's island (and not to be revealed here either).
I have no doubt, no doubt at all, that once in a blue moon I have judged a primitive too harshly.
However.
However.
However.
Given the track record of the primitives in general, of the primitives when considered all together, what with all of their prevarication, mendacity, deception, exaggeration, and bald-faced lies, it's always wise to take the primitives with not a grain, but a block, of salt.
To say that the primitives stretch things 100% of the time is not quite true; perhaps 99.8% or 99.99999% of the time, but that is not quite the same thing as 100% of the time, and so once in a while an innocent one gets pilloried.
One is known by the company one keeps.
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I voted "not sure," and here's why:
Perhaps at times we ARE hard on the primitives; that being said, they deserve some of it for bringing the minutiae of their lives out for public display.
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Are we too mean?
Abso-effing-lutely not. Not considering that more than a few of the primitives have espoused support for locking those that disagree with them up in death camps, or liquidating them outright. Combined with their assertion that we conservatives are too stupid to "vote for our best interests," as if they intrinsically know "what's best for us."
As the rhetoric amasses over there, they get even more and more hyperbolic. And they lose whatever sympathy anyone should ever have for them. Remember, "sympathy" is in the dictionary right between two words that the primitives know well, usually from first-hand experience--"shit" and "syphilis."
Only in a figurative way--**** 'em.
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I voted no.
Perhaps some are harsher then me in treating one when they wander here and perhaps others are more gracious but the bottom line is that for the complete and utter stupidity they puke into the world they don`t deserve much.
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No, absolutely, no. Besides, why should they care what "Rethugs, Repukes, Neocons, Racists, Skinheads, +insert other names used to describe those of conservative nature here+"?
If an 'innocent' exists at the DUmp why is it there in the first place?
I'm just hard-hearted since, although unaware of the contents, I rather doubt the sincerity of the email you received. It's a fishing expedition.
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No.
They're losers and they deserve every bit of it.
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Most of what they believe in is undeniably evil, and their hatred knows no bounds. I'd say we are not hard enough on them...they're despicable, vile people.
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Mean? No. I mean, have you read some of the hateful crap they type? They reap what they sow.
And BSS, thanks for bringing a smile to my face this am with this quote below. That was pretty much my mom's mantra during my youth. Ah, fond memories....
Remember, "sympathy" is in the dictionary right between two words that the primitives know well, usually from first-hand experience--"shit" and "syphilis."
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If we are too mean, then too bad. If they can dish it out they can take it in too.
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No. I think stupidity of the DUmbass variety should be much more painful than it is, but our open ridicule and derision are the most we're allowed to legally do, so we might as well go all the way.
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I'm the maybe vote.
It's not nice to be disparaging toward the mentally handicapped.
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I'm the maybe vote.
It's not nice to be disparaging toward the mentally handicapped.
The mentally handicapped have an excuse for their ignorance DUmmies on the other hand are ignorant due to laziness.
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I'm one of the maybe votes as well. I feel like everything now and then there is a post over here that crosses my mental line. For the most part though, I think we act appropriately.
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Some shame, some discomfort, some ridicule can be a good thing sometimes...it can motivate some people to improve themselves and their situation....but not DUmmies. They have been immunized against self improvement by the democrat party.
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Mean? No. I mean, have you read some of the hateful crap they type? They reap what they sow.
And BSS, thanks for bringing a smile to my face this am with this quote below. That was pretty much my mom's mantra during my youth. Ah, fond memories....
You are very welcome! It is true--they sow the seeds of division, they reap the whirlwind.
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No, in general. Some of us are occasionally a bit too harsh on the less-phony and narcissistic of them (Yes, there are a few), but that's life. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
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They deserve far more than words fired at them.
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They deserve far more than words fired at them.
They need full page ads in their hometown newspapers with their pics and excerpts of some of their most famous ramblings.
Now the guided bus tours past their houses with the rotten tomato barrage might be a bit to hard, but only then.
:-)
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No, in general. Some of us are occasionally a bit too harsh on the less-phony and narcissistic of them (Yes, there are a few), but that's life. Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas.
You've summed it up best.
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I voted no.
We don't wish people dead. We don't wish for people to acquire a long suffering incurable disease. We don't wish for financial ruin and suicide for people hurting from loss.
They do. Every single day someone wishes one or more of those things on Republicans.
It's hateful, mean and very sick. I don't think it much less post about something that evil.
In the 6 plus years I've been DUmpster diving I can honestly say I have only found one decent person there. Only one.
Nothing we post comes close to the hate those people carry. Nothing.
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Nothing we post comes close to the hate those people carry. Nothing.
Maybe that's why they are so miserable.....all that hate they are carrying around has to have an impact.
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Nah. We simply deride them for not taking our advice and living in the real world.
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I voted "No". We have not yet stripped them of their skin and rolled them in vinegar and salt. Now, that would be stepping a touch over the line. It would waste good salt and vinegar, for sure.
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No vote, because most of them will defend the most appalling of actions, such as late term abortion, then whine incessantly about the Planet.
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Eff the poor DUmmies... just eff 'em. :-*
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I voted no - here is why
Essentially, there are three kinds of posters on the island -
A ) the headliners - The noisiest primitives.
B ) the faceless lynch mob - most of which aren't commented on.
C ) the moles - who probably find amusement in getting headlined here and elsewhere.
Those who headline, do so because they have been prolific in their posting and outrageous enough to stand out from the crowd. Some of them are moles. The rest are somehow defective or deficient.
Is it possible that some may get more than they deserve ? Is it possible that we may entirely misread the meaning or intention of a primitive because of the environment they post in ? Sure. But I would label those few as the exception that proves the rule.
And, If a primitive feels unfairly targeted or somehow singled out, he/she is free to come here and present their case.
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No. Idiot libTURDs should be attcked whenever and wherever possible and with extreme prejudice and unrestrained vigor.
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No. Idiot libTURDs should be attcked whenever and wherever possible and with extreme prejudice and unrestrained vigor.
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That would make a good avatar/profile pic.
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Wow! Pam convinced coach she's really on chemo!
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Wow! Pam convinced coach she's really on chemo!
Yeah, right.
I don't think the greenbriar primitive would communicate with me through even a six-foot-thick steel wall.
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Yeah, right.
I don't think the greenbriar primitive would communicate with me through even a six-foot-thick steel wall.
Beat me to it - I was going to write essentially the same thing.
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Yeah, right.
I don't think the greenbriar primitive would communicate with me through even a six-foot-thick steel wall.
Maybe so. She likes me.
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If anything we're overly kind towards them.
They deserve nothing but ridicule and torment.
Whiny little punks are in no position to criticize either - they give as good as they get when given the opportunity.
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If an 'innocent' exists at the DUmp why is it there in the first place?
That's what I say. I voted no.
Anybody that runs with that crowd and truely believes the crap they post should be purged from society. Since it is illegal to just put them out of their misery (and ours) with a single shot, then you might as well have fun playing with them.
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I voted "No". No DUmmy deserves survival, let alone kind treatment. They are absolutely devoid of honor or decency. And I'm a nice tolerant guy.
But had the option been made available, I would have voted "The Jews".
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No. Mainly due to the overwhelmingly obvious to most people over 10. Words can never hurt you. Grow up, DUmmies.
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But had the option been made available, I would have voted "The Jews".
I thought that was a rule around here--any poll had to have "Teh Joooos" as an option . . . :tongue:
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If anyone thinks we are too mean to the goons just look at at the posts about Palin today.
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Well, the general consensus seems to be that no, we probably aren't too mean to the primitives on Skins's island.
On my own part, for the record, actually there's only four primitives--out of more than 5,000 primitives, remember--whom I personally dislike with a loathing and a vigor that far surpasses any similar feelings held by BadCat, PatriotGame, and GOBUCKS here, ostensibly the most "anti-primitive" of us all.
I suspect it could be fairly said--with God as my witness--that I actually possess a degree of fondness for even primitives such as Doug's ex-wife, Pedro Picasso, and so help me, the Bostonian Drunkard.
While I wouldn't wish the primitives to flourish and prosper, at the same time I wouldn't wish any harm on them. (That includes the four drek primitives, but it would be pointless wishing harm on them anyway, given that they're doing a pretty good job self-destructing all by themselves.)
I suppose if the primitives have a "problem" with what decent and civilized people say about them, perhaps the primitives should spend some time examining their own words and their own actions, to decipher why they're so disturbed at what "other people" say about them.
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I hope more of them see the light!
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I hope more of them see the light!
Hopefully, they'll see it while they're inside a railroad tunnel. And it will blow its horn at them, while getting larger at a rapid rate.
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I hope more of them see the light!
It's never ceased to amaze me how, when a primitive by accident stumbles upon conservativecave, he goes back to Skins's island whining about being "watched."
Skins's island of course is a public discussion board, the topics and comments freely available to any and all who wish to read them.
Just like whatever's on television; whoever wants to watch a show, watches it.
And places such as P-J Comix's most-excellent DUmmie FUnnies, the "Best/Worst of DU" forum on conservativeunderground, and the "DUmpster" and "DUmping Ground" forums here, are just like those who write reviews of television shows for magazines, praising and panning.
It boggles the mind, that the primitives aren't aware others watch what they say and do. And then the sheer chutzpah of their angry indignation at being seen.
I've said this before, but I'll repeat it.
Being deaf puts me into all sorts of uncomfortable situations in real life.
I can't hear.
One of the most vexing--and all too common--experiences involves public restrooms.
I've never seen a public restroom without locks that were operative; I'm sure they exist in some places, probably in corrupt crime-ridden vandalized blue cities and blue states, but I personally have never seen a nonfunctioning lock on a public restroom.
It's not my fault some people don't use those locks.
The reaction of the primitives, when learning "other people" see them, is much like one finds when striding into a men's room, the door having not been locked, and sees a guy sitting on the can evacuating his bowels, his face white with shock, indignation, and humiliation at being seen.
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We're not the only ones that watch their little fits of impotent rage and assorted stupidities. I've seen links to Skin's Island on several conservative blogs. :)
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lol.
Yea Frank. They're porn stars complaining about their privacy
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They're porn stars complaining about their privacy
That is H5 worthy. :hi5:
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Guilty as charged.
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IMO, it is impossible to be mean at all to the prims. These are the people who danced on Barbara Olson's grave after 9/11. Embraced the racist cartoons of Condi and Powell. Salivated over every death of every U.S. troop during the Bush years. Sided with terrorists and insurgents against their own soldiers. And a list of insanity too disturbing to remember.
If they're going to post these things, somebody sane had better be reading and commenting.
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I would have to say that in all my prowling around on the Intarwebs, Franksolich is about the nicest guy I've ever run across. Just the fact that the PM you mentioned receiving in your opening post bothered you enough to post this thread speaks volumes about your character Frank. I hope the results of the poll have eased your mind on the issue, and that you continue to post your observations of the island inhabitants. You usually have me rolling on the floor when I read here, the way you write about them.
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I hope the results of the poll have eased your mind on the issue, and that you continue to post your observations of the island inhabitants.
Of course.
You know, at times I've wanted to be friends with primitives, exchanging e-mails back-and-forth in a harmless casual informal manner, but such has never happened.
(Disclosure: actually it sort of has happened, communicating with a few primitives, but such communication was pretty shallow, and so I tapered it off and quit; being sort of a snob--I never claimed to be without flaws--I want to hang around with the cool primitives, the PoP, and not the obscure ones.
(However, I am hardly ungrateful; please notice there are some primitives whom I never mention, not even making a single idle comment about; these are either primitives who've been kind [and informative] to my mole on Skins's island, or primitives who've at least said "hi" to franksolich.
(Surely my leaving them in peace and quiet could be considered a gift.)
I used to think rather highly of the defrocked warped primitive, the "Warpy" primitive, for example; and my sentiments at the time are still a matter of public record, buried in the voluminous archives here. I was not at all modest in expressing my admiration of her.
I guess I was maybe perhaps possibly subconsciously seeking a healthy dialogue.
But as time went on, I noticed a disturbing trend--the more I praised the defrocked warped primitive, the more the hate-filled invective she spewed out against decent and civilized people.
The defrocked warped primitive did it right on cue, every time; I would post a complimentary comment about her, and circa three or four hours later over on Skins's island, the defrocked warped primitive would reach a new height--or low--in her hatred.
So I finally gave it up, and did a flip-flop on my perception (and treatment) of her.
I dunno; maybe she thought that's the way one flirts with somebody.
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The defrocked warped primitive did it right on cue, every time; I would post a complimentary comment about her, and circa three or four hours later over on Skins's island, the defrocked warped primitive would reach a new height--or low--in her hatred.
So I finally gave it up, and did a flip-flop on my perception (and treatment) of her.
I dunno; maybe she thought that's the way one flirts with somebody.
One of our dogs we got from a man whose wife, he claimed, gave him an ultimatum; the dog or her was going to leave. The dog is a lab mix, with what seems to be English Bulldog. When we got him, he was just nine months old or so, but seemed like a scared old dog on his last days.
We would play with him, with chew toys, ropes and such and once in a while would accidentally get my hand. He didn't know any better to immediately lessen his bite when that happened. It was play, but I got some pretty good nips at times. He just never had anyone care enough for him to teach him such things. Now, when playing with him, if that happens, he's so quick to recognize that it amounts to getting gummed.
That's the difference between my dog and a DUmmie like Warpy. The dog wanted to learn to be a decent member of the family. Warpy and other DUmmies have decided to remain biters.
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I'm moving this from the DUmpster, the "general circulation" area, to the DUmping Ground, the "reference section," as it seems to belong there.
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One of our dogs we got from a man whose wife, he claimed, gave him an ultimatum; the dog or her was going to leave. The dog is a lab mix, with what seems to be English Bulldog. When we got him, he was just nine months old or so, but seemed like a scared old dog on his last days.
We would play with him, with chew toys, ropes and such and once in a while would accidentally get my hand. He didn't know any better to immediately lessen his bite when that happened. It was play, but I got some pretty good nips at times. He just never had anyone care enough for him to teach him such things. Now, when playing with him, if that happens, he's so quick to recognize that it amounts to getting gummed.
That's the difference between my dog and a DUmmie like Warpy. The dog wanted to learn to be a decent member of the family. Warpy and other DUmmies have decided to remain biters.
Excellent analogy, sir.
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I'm all for calling on them for ideology and blatant lies. I have been uncomfortable a couple times when I've read what I would call "cheap shots."
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Not only no, but hell no! Ignorance of this magnitude needs to be exposed! Traitors should never be overlooked!
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Not only no, but hell no! Ignorance of this magnitude needs to be exposed! Traitors should never be overlooked!
Two comments of only-slightly-known primitives are seared in this brain.
The comments were posted at our old home, but alas our old home crashed, and it would take an earth-mover to dig them up at their original source any more.
The first was by Dorothy, the snobbish primitive, the "uppityperson" primitive, the older middle-aged nurse living north and west of Seattle, about four years ago, when she said she trusted the terrorists more (for her own safety) than she trusted George Bush.
The second was by the skidmarked underwear primitive, the "Skidmore" primitive, the older middle-aged farmwife living in eastern Iowa, sometime in early 2006 (long before the mid-term elections that year), when the primitives were discussing physical attacks on Republican candidates in Virginia, she said she wished "to see more of this."
Despite that Dorothy is just a twithead, and that the skidmarked underwear primitive is a survivor of cancer, one is hard-pressed to feel any sort of sympathy for either one of them, for any reason.
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Nah, I don't think so. Once in a great while a comment might cross the line somewhat, but most of our ripostes are reserved for the very most repugnant, hateful, intentionally dishonest and hypocritical blatherings they issue. Blatherings which, in some parts of the world, would get them killed (the irony of which totally escapes them, for it is those very parts of the world which they support while cursing their own homeland).
Even those few for whom I've harbored a strong desire to punch sharply in the face, were I to ever meet them IRL, I'd probably end up feeling sorry for after seeing their little rat-like, puny selves and just brush them off.
Besides, there's nothing we could ever say or do to them that would surpass the hell of self-consuming hatred, antipathy, depression and roiling class envy they've created for themselves in that sewer they've built that is DU. These are truly miserable and sick people.
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There is a qoute from one of my favorite movies of al time that fits how I feel about he DUmp and 90% of the dreck that lives there.
"I say we take off now and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure"
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Two comments of only-slightly-known primitives are seared in this brain.
The comments were posted at our old home, but alas our old home crashed, and it would take an earth-mover to dig them up at their original source any more.
The first was by Dorothy, the snobbish primitive, the "uppityperson" primitive, the older middle-aged nurse living north and west of Seattle, about four years ago, when she said she trusted the terrorists more (for her own safety) than she trusted George Bush.
The second was by the skidmarked underwear primitive, the "Skidmore" primitive, the older middle-aged farmwife living in eastern Iowa, sometime in early 2006 (long before the mid-term elections that year), when the primitives were discussing physical attacks on Republican candidates in Virginia, she said she wished "to see more of this."
Despite that Dorothy is just a twithead, and that the skidmarked underwear primitive is a survivor of cancer, one is hard-pressed to feel any sort of sympathy for either one of them, for any reason.
Yeah Coach, I remember the "safety" post. I had to restrain myself from throwing my monitor across the frikkin' room. Traitorous is the only way I can explain some of them over there!
Occasionally a primitive will try to administer a little sanity, but they are quckly shouted down or given the granite.
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"I say we take off now and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure"
Somehow, I knew that this quote would find its way to this thread . . . :fuelfire:
. . . and I approve. :fuelfire:
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I cringe every time I see someone post the "remember down the road not across the street" graphic. I don't think that's right under any circumstance, even if the target is being melodramatic and saying they are going do themselves in.
I cringe when I see posts about underground panther, I think she is truly mentally ill.
I'm not particularly fond of the jokes about using them for target practice but I get where they're coming from.
I would not use information that someone posted on a website or message board to get them fired or research out their real names and addresses and post them. I'm not really criticizing that per se but I wouldn't do it.
Of the things I mentioned the suicide thing is probably the only one the really bothers me. The others, not things I would do but to each his own.
Are they far, far more hate filled over there? Absolutely.
Do we have to answer in kind? Not so sure about that.
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I cringe every time I see someone post the "remember down the road not across the street" graphic. I don't think that's right under any circumstance, even if the target is being melodramatic and saying they are going do themselves in.
I cringe when I see posts about underground panther, I think she is truly mentally ill.
I'm not particularly fond of the jokes about using them for target practice but I get where they're coming from.
I would not use information that someone posted on a website or message board to get them fired or research out their real names and addresses and post them. I'm not really criticizing that per se but I wouldn't do it.
Of the things I mentioned the suicide thing is probably the only one the really bothers me. The others, not things I would do but to each his own.
Are they far, far more hate filled over there? Absolutely.
Do we have to answer in kind? Not so sure about that.
HUH? I don't think any of these things are promoted here. What site are you referring to?
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HUH? I don't think any of these things are promoted here. What site are you referring to?
Well, the "suicide" thingy has been posted here numerous times. I'm not a fan of it either, but to each their own.
I also cringe at the underground panther posts. It needs to institutionalized, not posting at the DUmp.
Mau10man did get a DUmmy fired from his job. DUmmy Walldud posted that he was going to sabatoge the Christian convention he was working at. And of course, the idiot posted exactly where the convention was being held. If you're going to publicly post crap like that, he definitely deserved what he got.
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Well, the "suicide" thingy has been posted here numerous times. I'm not a fan of it either, but to each their own.
I'm not a fan of it myself, but it's pretty mild compared with the primitive comments of similar natures.
I also cringe at the underground panther posts. It needs to institutionalized, not posting at the DUmp.
Maybe, but I blame in it on my fellow alum Skins.
I'm sure that her psychiatrists, psychologists, and therapists have cautioned the subway cat she shouldn't be posting on Skins's island, as it's not good for her mental health, but the subway cat blithely ignores them.
If I were my fellow alum, I would require that mentally-ill primitives submit a note--black ink on white paper, no cyberspace "documents"--from a practicing psychiatrist or psychologist giving the primitive permission to post.
No note, no posting on Skins's island.
Mau10man did get a DUmmy fired from his job. DUmmy Walldud posted that he was going to sabatoge the Christian convention he was working at. And of course, the idiot posted exactly where the convention was being held. If you're going to publicly post crap like that, he definitely deserved what he got.
Yeah, the wallpaper dude got exactly what he deserved.
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Yeah, the wallpaper dude got exactly what he deserved.
Exactly. And he still blames us for his own massive OPSEC breach. ('Course, I'm not unhappy he got fired--more along the lines of, "Serves his sorry ass right.")
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I cringe when I see posts about underground panther, I think she is truly mentally ill.
There are times that I feel that way also; however, they are few and far between. I have no doubt that she's crazy, but I do question the extent of her "mental illness".
This is difficult to explain in writing. She doesn't work for a living, yet based on her photos she's got money for tattoos. She's got a place to live. She's got food to eat. She's got internet access. She's apparently got doctors/therapists. Her "mental illness" seems to be paying better than my business.
I'm reminded of the old joke where Jesus walks into a bar. He touches one patron and heals him of his ailment. He touches another patron and heals him of his ailment. As Jesus nears the next patron the patron says, "Don't touch me Jesus I'm on disability!"
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There are times that I feel that way also; however, they are few and far between. I have no doubt that she's crazy, but I do question the extent of her "mental illness".
This is difficult to explain in writing. She doesn't work for a living, yet based on her photos she's got money for tattoos. She's got a place to live. She's got food to eat. She's got internet access. She's apparently got doctors/therapists. Her "mental illness" seems to be paying better than my business.
I'm reminded of the old joke where Jesus walks into a bar. He touches one patron and heals him of his ailment. He touches another patron and heals him of his ailment. As Jesus nears the next patron the patron says, "Don't touch me Jesus I'm on disability!"
Gimme a frikkin' break. UP is no crazier than you or I. We're talking about a pathetic creature intent on gaming the system in order to get out of a semblence of work and satisfying her own sense of sexual perversion.
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Gimme a frikkin' break. UP is no crazier than you or I. We're talking about a pathetic creature intent on gaming the system in order to get out of a semblence of work and satisfying her own sense of sexual perversion.
She thinks she is a male cat and she was visited by the psychic ghost of a dead chicken!!
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She thinks she is a male cat and she was visited by the psychic ghost of a dead chicken!!
Like I said, "her own sense of sexual perversion". You haven't been visited by a dead chicken? Go figure!
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Gimme a frikkin' break. UP is no crazier than you or I. We're talking about a pathetic creature intent on gaming the system in order to get out of a semblence of work and satisfying her own sense of sexual perversion.
I have no doubt that she's pathetic. I also have no doubt that she's gaming the system. I said as much in my post. I would agree that she's probably no more mentally ill than you or I. As far as crazy goes though, she's a hell of a lot crazier than I am.
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I have no doubt that she's pathetic. I also have no doubt that she's gaming the system. I said as much in my post. I would agree that she's probably no more mentally ill than you or I. As far as crazy goes though, she's a hell of a lot crazier than I am.
Heh, heh! I must agree with your superior logic in this case! Hahahahahahahaha!!!
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I strongly support suicide as the ultimate solution to the DUmmy's problems. Especially if they get off their asses and do it before November.