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From MA State House News (Subscription only):
This week in state government and public affairs: a hotel full of Democrats – a non-union hotel full of Democrats – who had busted their humps to elect a Democratic governor three years ago decided Wednesday to picket said governor the next afternoon, politically wounding him and, in all likelihood, their own most fervently held causes.
Put another way: with the national Democratic Party already looking cross-eyed at Massachusetts because of their brethren’s inability to retain Ted Kennedy’s seat – Ted Kennedy’s seat – the state cousins on Thursday opted to zap a sitting governor who has in three years overseen a 21.5 percent increase in union membership, by Patrick aides’ reckoning.
In addition, there’s been continued implementation of first-in-the-nation legislation easing unionization, and, oh yes, the asymptotic approach toward universal health care.
Any guesses about whether the national party has some concerns about what’s going on up here? If Sen. Scott Brown’s storming of the castle hadn’t been enough, and it was, the specter of the president’s buddy – who shares the hackneyed list of demographic similarities – getting shot down by one of the Democrats’ most loyal constituencies, probably reaches the threshold of disturbances that would irk the nationals.
So when Gov. Deval Patrick decided at the last minute Thursday to bail on the AFL-CIO’s annual conference in Plymouth, after the group’s executive committee had agreed the night before to stand up and walk out and join more than a hundred cops on a picket line outside on Water Street, the selfsame protesters had a bit of whiplash, a sort of “now what?†moment, a dark night of the soul. The anger among the laborists toting anti-Patrick signs morphed into anger-tinged confusion.
AFL-CIO legislative director Tim Sullivan went Zen discussing the House of Labor’s discontent with its chosen governor.
“They’re in office until they’re not,†he said of elected officials. “And they’re in charge of the list of things they’re charge of until they’re not.â€
“Because of the economic conditions, I think the natural alliance between unions and Democrats has been strained somewhat,†Speaker Robert DeLeo said, adding that he likely would have appeared where Patrick did not.
http://www.statehousenews.com
It's bad kids. :-)
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It's bad kids.
So bad, that it's good. :evillaugh:
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So bad, that it's good. :evillaugh:
When the unions start turning on them it's lights out. Delicious.
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The one police union backed Brown over Coakley and her husband had been a member of that union.
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The one police union backed Brown over Coakley and her husband had been a member of that union.
The police unions were picketing outside of another union hosted event that Patrick was supposed to give a speech at. The union members who were attending the event voted the night before that they HAD to join the police officers outside when Patrick showed up inside. Patrick caught wind of it and canceled at the 11th hour (literally, his state police detail wasn't even informed he was going to be a no show). The police union was PISSED as were the members inside who were going to walk on him to make a statement.
That pretty much sums up the total p^ssy he is. The DNC's blood ran ice cold when they heard this happened. Not good. Not good at all.
Writing is on the wall. The status quo was executed in MA. The Reagan Democrats are about to reclaim their party.
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Well, really, he would have been an idiot to show up knowing the walkout was going to happen, I can't call him a ***** for doing the one smart thing he's done so far.
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Republicans should be careful what they wish for. Like technology, political change is accelerating faster than most of us realize. Think back one year ago when pundits in the corporate press were wondering if the GOP had any future in American politics.
If economic conditions next November make those of '08 look flush by comparison, give some thought to Huey Long's analogy. Huey thought the American government was like a restaurant that served only one dish.
There are Republican waiters on one side of the room, and Democrat waiters on the other, but no matter which party delivers your order"...all the grub comes from Wall Street's kitchen."
Choosing between Republican and Democrat guarantees a win for Wall Street.
And a loss for 90% of all Americans.
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Republicans should be careful what they wish for. Choosing between Republican and Democrat guarantees a win for Wall Street.
And a loss for 90% of all Americans.
Well......to use your analogy.....a win for Wall Street is good enough for me......and for the 50% (using your analogy again) that are too stupid, or lazy to take advantage of that......too bad.......
Opportunity knocks.......a wise man answers........a fool does not.
doc
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Republicans should be careful what they wish for. Like technology, political change is accelerating faster than most of us realize. Think back one year ago when pundits in the corporate press were wondering if the GOP had any future in American politics.
If economic conditions next November make those of '08 look flush by comparison, give some thought to Huey Long's analogy. Huey thought the American government was like a restaurant that served only one dish.
There are Republican waiters on one side of the room, and Democrat waiters on the other, but no matter which party delivers your order"...all the grub comes from Wall Street's kitchen."
Choosing between Republican and Democrat guarantees a win for Wall Street.
And a loss for 90% of all Americans.
The smart people know that "Wall Street" is not an enemy simply because it exists. I'd put my life in Wall Street's hands any day before I'd offer it to Pennsylvania Avenue or the Washington Mall.
Capitalism is not America's enemy. Politicians, mainly and almost solely democrat politicians, are America's enemy.
God Bless the Conservative Republican Party.
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God Bless the Conservative Republican Party.
He does. Along with fools, little children, and ships named 'Enterprise'.
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doc:
When winning requires killing other people's children for profit and crashing the American economy, stupid and lazy seem like virtues, especially when compared to greed and cowardice.
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doc:
When winning requires killing other people's children for profit and crashing the American economy, stupid and lazy seem like virtues, especially when compared to greed and cowardice.
Wall Street exists solely to make money.....nothing else.......the killing of children for profit is in the realm of Planned Parenthood (a liberal organization)......they aren"t traded on any exchange that I know of.....
Stupid and lazy are never virtues.......and I doubt that you will last long around here, by even obliquely referring to us as cowards......there are many serving in the military here.....
doc
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doc:
When winning requires killing other people's children for profit and crashing the American economy, stupid and lazy seem like virtues, especially when compared to greed and cowardice.
Oh, goody--another chew toy!
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Oh, goody--another chew toy!
The quality has, however, deteriorated considerably lately........I really prefer TNO......with all his faults, he still has functioning neurons.....
doc
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Lord Undies:
Wall Street exists to concentrate wealth into fewer and fewer hands with each passing generation. With help from the Federal Reserve, the American standard of living is rapidly approaching those of a banana republic.
Anyone serious about change would vote AGAINST all congressional Republicans AND Democrats running for reelection on November 2nd.
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Lord Undies:
Wall Street exists to concentrate wealth into fewer and fewer hands with each passing generation. With help from the Federal Reserve, the American standard of living is rapidly approaching those of a banana republic.
Anyone serious about change would vote AGAINST all congressional Republicans AND Democrats running for reelection on November 2nd.
Of we can just **** all the democrats with our neo-con F35 fighters and call it a day.
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Lord Undies:
Wall Street exists to concentrate wealth into fewer and fewer hands with each passing generation. With help from the Federal Reserve, the American standard of living is rapidly approaching those of a banana republic.
Anyone serious about change would vote AGAINST all congressional Republicans AND Democrats running for reelection on November 2nd.
That's a ridiculous thing to say. Totally and completely absurd. I think you are trying to entertain us with a clown show.
The trends of Wall Street is exactly opposite from what you described. My parent generation had nothing invested in stock and bonds, unless they were of wealthy families. My grandparents generation had even less. Today, just about everyone has some amount invested, and like in my own situation, all is not lost.
I have decide you are just a goofy know-nothing mofo who likes to hear his gums flap. Thanks for dropping by.
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doc:
Tell me if the following is too oblique for you...personally...
TRUE or FALSE...
Those who profit from wars they're too gutless to fight in (like Bubba, Dubya, and Wall Street) are cowards..
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Vegas line has the over/under post count on the noob troll at 9 1/2 posts before he gets the ban hammer.
Any takers?
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doc:
Tell me if the following is too oblique for you...personally...
TRUE or FALSE...
Those who profit from wars they're too gutless to fight in (like Bubba, Dubya, and Wall Street) are cowards..
Oh great.
The chicken hawk meme.
Can't you at least try to come up with something original ?
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Well, really, he would have been an idiot to show up knowing the walkout was going to happen, I can't call him a ***** for doing the one smart thing he's done so far.
I don't agree with this at all. You face your opposition -- in this case, these were his biggest allies. He made a commitment. He shows. The union leadership was not walking. Just the members. You respect dissent.
He ran away like a school girl. Hell even mumbles Menino has taken his lumps and showed when he knows he was going to be hammered.
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doc:
Tell me if the following is too oblique for you...personally...
TRUE or FALSE...
Those who profit from wars they're too gutless to fight in (like Bubba, Dubya, and Wall Street) are cowards..
Capitalism is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad people. Come over to the commie side. We have better cookies and delicious koolaid.
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Oh goody...another of the third party is the salvation groupies. ::)
For your information George,Wall street has been the vehicle behind a higher standard of living ever dreamed of in the USA.
A 401k,and IRA all part of the reasons many people have retired more comfortably then ever before while not bankrupting businesses (General Motors) or locals (state pension funds).
You talk utter bullshit that is nothing but idiotic drivel you have accepted into your weak and lazy mind with out for a second thinking for yourself.
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Lord Undies:
Wall Street exists to concentrate wealth into fewer and fewer hands with each passing generation. With help from the Federal Reserve, the American standard of living is rapidly approaching those of a banana republic.
Anyone serious about change would vote AGAINST all congressional Republicans AND Democrats running for reelection on November 2nd.
Wall Street is funding my 401(k), and with smart investing, I might be able to retire comfortably. When "Wall Street" wins, so do investors, and therefore, so does Main Street. Look elsewhere for bogeymen.
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I LIKE PIE!!!!!!!!!
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Carl:
Do you think the $13 trillion handout to Wall Street means Main Street can't prosper without creating hundreds of Wall Street billionaires?
Do you think a 30% interest charge on credit cards leads to a higher standard of living for anyone except investment bankers?
Should Obama help the debtors or heal the creditors, at public expense?
According to IMF figures this country began this century producing 32% of the planet's GDP. We finished the first decade by producing 24%. No other state in history, except the Soviet Union, has taken such a FALL in one decade.
Do you think Wall Street even cares?
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Carl:
Do you think the $13 trillion handout to Wall Street means Main Street can't prosper without creating hundreds of Wall Street billionaires?
Do you think a 30% interest charge on credit cards leads to a higher standard of living for anyone except investment bankers?
Should Obama help the debtors or heal the creditors, at public expense?
According to IMF figures this country began this century producing 32% of the planet's GDP. We finished the first decade by producing 24%. No other state in history, except the Soviet Union, has taken such a FALL in one decade.
Do you think Wall Street even cares?
The first thing you have done in error is accept some socialist nonsense that there is an evil bogeyman out there trying to keep you down.
It is garbage,and the sooner one learns that business both small and large is what has made this country prosper then the better off they will be.
Your credit card question is a nonsensical one and shows an ignorance of the credit world.
You do understand what a credit card is and how one should be used don`t you?
If you think it is free money or should be a no interest loan then you have an elementary age view of the world.
You seem to suggest that someone who has not followed a wise and responsible financial plan should some how be made whole at the publics expense and detriment.
I don`t think that.
Let me guess...you have the notion that we should withdraw from the global economy and somehow all goods being purchased today will magically be produced here for the same price.
Please explain how with unions,restrictive business regulations,environmental regulations that won`t allow a manufacturing facility to be built,restrictions on energy production and exploration that happens.
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Do you think the $13 trillion handout to Wall Street means Main Street can't prosper without creating hundreds of Wall Street billionaires?
I think that most of us will agree that government bailouts of any private industry was/is a bad idea......
Do you think a 30% interest charge on credit cards leads to a higher standard of living for anyone except investment bankers?
Actually I think this is great.....if you are stupid enough to end up carrying a credit card balance with that kind of interest, I think that is fine with me.......stupidity should be expensive.......and no one owes anyone else a "standard of living".......you get off your ass and actually "work" for that.....
Should Obama help the debtors or heal the creditors, at public expense?
No......most of us just want Obama to leave us alone........
According to IMF figures this country began this century producing 32% of the planet's GDP. We finished the first decade by producing 24%. No other state in history, except the Soviet Union, has taken such a FALL in one decade.
So what.....we've rebuilt Europe (twice), Japan, South Korea, and a number of other former enemies, and turned them into economic powerhouses over that century.....this is a bad thing how?........The global economy as a result has expanded by at least an order of magnitude, and our piece is therefore smaller........I really don't see a problem.....the US economy has greatly expanded over that period of time as well.......
Do you think Wall Street even cares?
So long as they are making money from it (and subsequently making ME money as well).....why should they care?
Wall Street is not a benevolent organization.....
doc
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Why do you insist it is wall street/ bankers that are the problem. I see too much government meddling. Mandates like: you will give unqualified people home loans. Look to Maxine Waters and Barny Frank for your banking Bogey man.
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doc:
Tell me if the following is too oblique for you...personally...
TRUE or FALSE...
Those who profit from wars they're too gutless to fight in (like Bubba, Dubya, and Wall Street) are cowards..
I would observe that this is simply too silly a statement to merit a true or false answer.......companies make profits during times of war and peace.......and with the exception of Clinton (GWB did serve, contrary to popular belief)......I would suspect that many on Wall Street have as well......sweeping generalizations leave us with the impression that you simply don't know much about the subject.....
doc
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I don't agree with this at all. You face your opposition -- in this case, these were his biggest allies. He made a commitment. He shows. The union leadership was not walking. Just the members. You respect dissent.
He ran away like a school girl. Hell even mumbles Menino has taken his lumps and showed when he knows he was going to be hammered.
Not a big believer in Sun Tzu, I see. Well, neither was Custer.
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doc:
You write "Wall Street is not a benevolent organization."
Is Wall Street a patriotic organization? Have a few of the richest individuals on the planet enhanced their huge fortunes by shipping out America's manufacturing base to China?
What about Wall Street integrity? Are you worried they could absorb your wealth with as little concern as you show for someone "stupid" enough to carry 30% interest on their credit card balance?
The criminality that Wall Street shares with Washington seems hard to miss when you look at something like the The Plunge Protection Team, currently accused of using the Fed to manipulate the stock market by buying market averages in the Futures Market.
If the gap between the rich and the rest continues to widen in the US, a vacuum will open in a country with 200 million private guns.
And Wall Street will look for ways to "make money" from American killing fields.
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doc:
You write "Wall Street is not a benevolent organization."
Is Wall Street a patriotic organization? Have a few of the richest individuals on the planet enhanced their huge fortunes by shipping out America's manufacturing base to China?
What about Wall Street integrity? Are you worried they could absorb your wealth with as little concern as you show for someone "stupid" enough to carry 30% interest on their credit card balance?
The criminality that Wall Street shares with Washington seems hard to miss when you look at something like the The Plunge Protection Team, currently accused of using the Fed to manipulate the stock market by buying market averages in the Futures Market.
If the gap between the rich and the rest continues to widen in the US, a vacuum will open in a country with 200 million private guns.
And Wall Street will look for ways to "make money" from American killing fields.
Take your greed,envy,class jealousy back to the demented cretins at the DUmp where they thrive on festering rot.
You want to live a life whining about shit instead of doing your best to make the most of things then go ahead..your choice but you will forever be a miserable loser.
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That's it! Get me Wall Street on the phone! I'll put them in jail right next to Society, because "Society is to blame...."
Get over it. Live your life. If you want a higher standard of living for yourself, go get it. "Wall Street" won't stop you. Stop blaming a block in New York. Stop pretending to be a damn victim.
Manufacturing jobs are leaving this country because of oppressive tax codes and stupid union demands. (look up Pratt and Whitney).
Jeez. What a damn class envious whiner. Get a job, then get a life. Either way, stop blaming other people because YOU're unhappy.
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Manufacturing jobs are leaving this country because of oppressive tax codes and stupid union demands. (look up Pratt and Whitney).
Don't forget overly restrictive environmental laws, that make it nearly impossible to build a new factory in some places.
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Don't forget overly restrictive environmental laws, that make it nearly impossible to build a new factory in some places.
Yielded and duly noted! :bow:
When was the last time a refinery was built in the US? 30 years ago?
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Don't forget overly restrictive environmental laws, that make it nearly impossible to build a new factory in some places.
I asked the new troll that yesterday and of course was conveniently ignored.
These idiots are a boiler room dime a dozen.
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Yielded and duly noted! :bow:
When was the last time a refinery was built in the US? 30 years ago?
Closing in on 40, actually.
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doc:
You write "Wall Street is not a benevolent organization."
Is Wall Street a patriotic organization? Have a few of the richest individuals on the planet enhanced their huge fortunes by shipping out America's manufacturing base to China?
What about Wall Street integrity? Are you worried they could absorb your wealth with as little concern as you show for someone "stupid" enough to carry 30% interest on their credit card balance?
The criminality that Wall Street shares with Washington seems hard to miss when you look at something like the The Plunge Protection Team, currently accused of using the Fed to manipulate the stock market by buying market averages in the Futures Market.
If the gap between the rich and the rest continues to widen in the US, a vacuum will open in a country with 200 million private guns.
And Wall Street will look for ways to "make money" from American killing fields.
This guy isn't just drinking the Kool-Aid, he's wallowing in it. :thatsright:
Doc has said that Wall Street is an entity that deals in MONEY. Not "killing fields" or "killing babies" or any warm 'n fuzzy attribute that is right out of the DU playbook.
What is your problem with rich people? You do realize that most of them (the Hollyweird elite being perhaps notable exceptions) got there because of hard work and risk-taking. Accent is on the "hard work".
Whiners like you make me appreciate how fortunate I am in being able to recognize success with hard work.
Sparky, I'll take that bet -- I think georgphillip will last some time, certainly longer than 9.5 posts. I think he's a drive-by, actually.
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Do you think the $13 trillion handout to Wall Street means Main Street can't prosper without creating hundreds of Wall Street billionaires?
Handing a failing business my tax money is always a bad idea. Putting financial and manufacturing businesses in the hands of communist thugs is an even worse idea.
Do you think a 30% interest charge on credit cards leads to a higher standard of living for anyone except investment bankers?
If you are stupid enough to get one of those, then you should experience all of the pain of having to pay it back. Living within your means and budgeting are more than pretty words, they are a way of life to the smart and an anathema to the greedy and galactically stupid consumer.
Should Obama help the debtors or heal the creditors, at public expense?
Obama should worry more about how he can get the government the hell out of the way so we can grow the GDP and keep the revenue flowing into the coffers.
According to IMF figures this country began this century producing 32% of the planet's GDP. We finished the first decade by producing 24%. No other state in history, except the Soviet Union, has taken such a FALL in one decade.
So what are you doing to get the anti-business party out of power?
Do you think Wall Street even cares?
Considering how much money they paid to Obama during the campaign and how bad he is screwing them right now, I would say that they care and they are paying very close attention.
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Is Wall Street a patriotic organization? Have a few of the richest individuals on the planet enhanced their huge fortunes by shipping out America's manufacturing base to China?
The investment markets are, by definition, there for the purpose of managing and investing money.......in our capitalistic system, I would broadly define that as patriotic, as it supports the American way of life, and all that goes with it.
As mentioned by someone else, Wall Street is not responsible for shipping ONE JOB out of the country, not one........that falls squarely on the heads of labor unions pricing American goods out of a competitive world market, and the politicians with strict (and useless) regulation and taxation......if businesses can go elsewhere and make their products more competitively they will do so, and will continue to do so, until the "political class" wakes up and creates a lower cost and regulatory friendly environment for American business.
What about Wall Street integrity? Are you worried they could absorb your wealth with as little concern as you show for someone "stupid" enough to carry 30% interest on their credit card balance?
No.....I'm not worried.......I have done business with the same financial adviser for over thirty years, and he has never cheated me out of a penny........when I make money, he makes money, and he has done quite well for both of us over that period of time......
The criminality that Wall Street shares with Washington seems hard to miss when you look at something like the The Plunge Protection Team, currently accused of using the Fed to manipulate the stock market by buying market averages in the Futures Market.
I don't know what "criminality" Wall Street shares with Washington, unless you are referring to certain members of congress forcing banks and mortgage companies to lend money to people that can't afford to pay it back, for "affirmative action" reasons, creating the disaster that is Fanny and Freddy.......that I will lay solely at the feet of the politicians.......left to their own best interests, the financial institutions would have never made those loans to begin with, and we would have never had the "credit crash" that dumped the markets........there have certainly been instances of dishonesty by business (Enron comes to mind), but overall, most of the problems that we see in the financial markets are the result of "government" actions and not "Wall Street".....
If the gap between the rich and the rest continues to widen in the US, a vacuum will open in a country with 200 million private guns.
So what......as I said in another response......stupidity should be expensive, and painful, if necessary.........and what does gun ownership have to do with it? I invest in the markets, and I also own a hell of a lot of guns.......Are you suggesting that the riff-raff are going to come for the investor class with torches and pitchforks? Pure nonsense and hyperbole........the "poor" are too busy sitting on their butts eating Cheetos, and watching "American Idol" to concern themselves with anything other than where their next welfare check is coming from......If they are too stupid to go out and find a job, and "actually participate" in the American economy, what makes you think that they have the ability to organize anything other than a trip to the convenience store with their WIC card?
And Wall Street will look for ways to "make money" from American killing fields
A truly dumb statement, but hypothetically of course......I suspect that they would, and I would be right there with them......I am a capitalist, after all........
doc
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This guy isn't just drinking the Kool-Aid, he's wallowing in it. :thatsright:
Im not so convinced - there seems to be a concerted effort by the left to cause a 3rd party split to occur that would affect the conservative vote. - I'm not saying this guy is a paid disruptor but I think either he or a website he visits came up with an idea to separate 'rethugglikkans' and 'teabaggers' into differnt parties to insure Democrat victories.
It's also equally likely that this guy is a left over Paultard.
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Miske:
I haven't been stupid enough to vote Republican OR Democrat for decades. Only a devout slave would think choosing between either political subsidiary of Wall Street would lead to freedom.
I suspect the only thing we could all agree on at this very moment is that this dialog could only happen over the Internet...The Internet is...R-E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N!.......in our time.
In that spirit of Revolution.... FLUSH the DC TOILET of as many Republicans AND Democrats as possible next November 2nd....choose as many replacements as possible from all viable third parties.
If exactly one year from today there are...40....50.....100 (200?!) new House members and 75%-90% are neither Republican nor Democrat......Wall Street and its Investor Class, rhymes-with-rich handmaidens will get the chance to fight for their blood money from sea to shining sea................
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Miske:
I haven't been stupid enough to vote Republican OR Democrat for decades. Only a devout slave would think choosing between either political subsidiary of Wall Street would lead to freedom.
I suspect the only thing we could all agree on at this very moment is that this dialog could only happen over the Internet...The Internet is...R-E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N!.......in our time.
In that spirit of Revolution.... FLUSH the DC TOILET of as many Republicans AND Democrats as possible next November 2nd....choose as many replacements as possible from all viable third parties.
If exactly one year from today there are...40....50.....100 (200?!) new House members and 75%-90% are neither Republican nor Democrat......Wall Street and its Investor Class, rhymes-with-rich handmaidens will get the chance to fight for their blood money from sea to shining sea................
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Eff off troll.
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I haven't been stupid enough to vote Republican OR Democrat for decades. Only a devout slave would think choosing between either political subsidiary of Wall Street would lead to freedom.
I suspect the only thing we could all agree on at this very moment is that this dialog could only happen over the Internet...The Internet is...R-E-V-O-L-U-T-I-O-N!.......in our time.
In that spirit of Revolution.... FLUSH the DC TOILET of as many Republicans AND Democrats as possible next November 2nd....choose as many replacements as possible from all viable third parties.
If exactly one year from today there are...40....50.....100 (200?!) new House members and 75%-90% are neither Republican nor Democrat......Wall Street and its Investor Class, rhymes-with-rich handmaidens will get the chance to fight for their blood money from sea to shining sea................
Good grief.........
doc
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Good grief.........
doc
Had him called a couple of pages ago...just another infection of unrealistic and self aggrandizing drivel.
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Choosing between Republican and Democrat guarantees a win for Wall Street.
And a loss for 90% of all Americans.
You guys that go around spouting that there is no difference between Republicans and Democrats have the intellectual depth of a wading pool.
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Wall Street exists to concentrate wealth into fewer and fewer hands with each passing generation. With help from the Federal Reserve,
Then how do you explain the fact taht so many of the people that drive wall street every day are NOT these huge eeeeevil billionaires you seem to despise...but private investors...small businesses and the middle class?
Your mindset and class warfare tactics are of a pre 1929 era.
the American standard of living is rapidly approaching those of a banana republic.
If that's the case then why are so many people who live in REAL banana republics risking life and limb to come here to find a better way of life?
Anyone serious about change would vote AGAINST all congressional Republicans AND Democrats running for reelection on November 2nd.
And just who exactly SHOULD we vote for genius?
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You will never get an answer TRG because they never have answers...just broad proclamations of Utopian,idealistic nonsense that inevitably will end with this person telling us how he is so much more pure and we are all stupid.
The script is very old and tired to thinking folks but at least they FEEEEEEEL so good about themselves in the end.
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the American standard of living is rapidly approaching those of a banana republic.
Yep, the US is so close to banana republic that you guys are forced to R-E-V-O-L-T online. I do hope you aren't paying one of those ISP providers with WS ties for your Internet connection.
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I'm waiting for his YouTube videos... :whatever:
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Quote from: georgephillip on February 06, 2010, 06:29:35 pm
the American standard of living is rapidly approaching those of a banana republic.
Dude, you have obviously never been anywhere near a real banana republic. Nobody sane who'd really been to back-country Central America could say something that stupid.
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I'm waiting for his YouTube videos... :whatever:
His cinder blocks and chicken wire are on backorder.
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That's it, I can't take it any more!!
Can't you all see that Georgephillip here is a Soooper Guiness, and has all by himself diagnosed what ails society and how we all can follow his enlightened lead to fix it?
Leave Georgephillip ALONE!!!!
/idiot mode
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That's it, I can't take it any more!!
Can't you all see that Georgephillip here is a Soooper Guiness, and has all by himself diagnosed what ails society and how we all can follow his enlightened lead to fix it?
Leave Georgephillip ALONE!!!!
/idiot mode
George has Guinness? :cheers1:
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Dear DUmbshit,
I'll pose to you one question I heard whilst channel surfing tonight. China currently holds most of our foreign debt. How can they possibly do this? Simple, when your economy is growing at 10-12 percent per year. But why is their economy growing by leaps and bounds? Very simple, and can be expressed in three little words:
FREE. MARKET. CAPITALISM.
Oh, make no mistake--from a personal standpoint, China is as repressive as ever. Economically, however, they realized that the Soviet-style economic plan was complete and total bullshit, as was anything anywhere near it; i.e., socialism. This is why they are now the second-largest economy in the world, and if current trends continue, will likely be the largest in 20-25 years, if not sooner. Even the commies know you can't tax capital gains at the rates our government does and still hope to prosper.
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Comrad Sparky:
Since you answered your question, let me pose another to you:
How is it every year since 2003 the Germans, and not the Chinese, have either led the world in export sales or been tied for first place?
Any thoughts on how bullshit socialists have managed to create a high-wage unionized economy without shipping all their jobs to Asia or creating a monster trade deficit, or any trade deficit at all?
And the Germans manage to do all this while taking six weeks of vacation every year.........
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How is it every year since 2003 the Germans, and not the Chinese, have either led the world in export sales or been tied for first place?
To the U.S> or to Europe?
Any thoughts on how bullshit socialists have managed to create a high-wage unionized economy without shipping all their jobs to Asia or creating a monster trade deficit, or any trade deficit at all?
And that "high wage unionized economy" is about to bring about the collapse of the Euro and the EU economic sphere of influence.
The European single currency is facing an 'inevitable break-up' a leading French bank claimed yesterday.
Strategists at Paris-based Société Générale said that any bailout of the stricken Greek economy would only provide 'sticking plasters' to cover the deep- seated flaws in the eurozone bloc.
The stark warning came as the euro slipped further on the currency markets and dire growth figures raised the prospect of a 'double-dip' recession in the embattled zone.
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1250433/Greece-debt-bailout-EU-leaders-split-euro-crisis.html#ixzz0fXNiNTj6
And the Germans manage to do all this while taking six weeks of vacation every year.........
Hey DUmmie...I'm living in Germany right now...this sweetness and light rosy picture you paint of Germany is not exactly how you make it out to be.
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The UNDP 2004 report shows that 8.3 % of Germany's population lives below income poverty line (50% of median household income). Gross primary enrollment, which denotes the percent of school-age population, is 103, with 104 for male and 103 for female population. Adult Literacy rate is the same as other high-income countries, 99 %. Germany is ranked 19th in 177 countries of the world in terms of human development index. Germany's labour force growth rate of 0.1% in last six years is far short of the other high-income countries' growth rate of rate of 0.7% during these years.
The GNI per capita of Germany Economy was $ 25250 in 2003. In terms of purchasing power parity, Per capita GNI in 2003 was US $ 27460, placing it at a lower rank among the other OECD countries.
http://www.economywatch.com/world_economy/germany/
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Oh, make no mistake--from a personal standpoint, China is as repressive as ever. Economically, however, they realized that the Soviet-style economic plan was complete and total bullshit, as was anything anywhere near it; i.e., socialism. This is why they are now the second-largest economy in the world, and if current trends continue, will likely be the largest in 20-25 years, if not sooner. Even the commies know you can't tax capital gains at the rates our government does and still hope to prosper.
I don't share your enthusiasm. It's all smoke and mirrors my friend. I read the Heritage foundation regularly to monitor our commie friends, China and the former Soviet Union. Good thorough stuff there. Everyone should have them bookmarked.
It turns out that China is not leading the world out of recession, is not nipping at America's economic heels, is not America's banker, is not becoming more consumption-driven, and is not controlling its carbon emissions. Instead, Chinese growth for the moment comes at the expense of global growth, the U.S. has stronger long-term economic fundamentals than China, Chinese bond purchases appear unimportant, China is more investment-dependent than ever, and is by far the world's largest greenhouse emitter.
The American position is thus considerably stronger relative to China than commonly believed. However, it is also the case that the policy challenges, such as inducing genuine economic reform in the PRC, are more daunting. It will be more difficult for the U.S. to avoid the pitfalls of superficial changes, such as in exchange rates and carbon intensities, to make progress toward a Chinese economy that genuinely does boost world growth.
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http://www.heritage.org/Research/AsiaandthePacific/bg2366.cfm
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I don't share your enthusiasm. It's all smoke and mirrors my friend. I read the Heritage foundation regularly to monitor our commie friends, China and the former Soviet Union. Good thorough stuff there. Everyone should have them bookmarked.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/AsiaandthePacific/bg2366.cfm
I forget where I heard it (probably an economic pundit on Fox -- CNBC doesn't discuss the 800-pound gorilla in the room), but China appears to regularly inflate their production and economic numbers. Not that I have any other source, but I'm just offering that as a suggestion. Enron and many other companies have done the same, and look at the result.
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I forget where I heard it (probably an economic pundit on Fox -- CNBC doesn't discuss the 800-pound gorilla in the room), but China appears to regularly inflate their production and economic numbers. Not that I have any other source, but I'm just offering that as a suggestion. Enron and many other companies have done the same, and look at the result.
Exactly. The US may be in an economic downturn, but our country is the most solid and solvent to invest in. We will still be standing 100 years from now (now that we have the 41st vote and put the brakes on the march to socialism). Do we have a lot of cuts to make? absolutely. However the sky isn't falling yet.
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Exactly. The US may be in an economic downturn, but our country is the most solid and solvent to invest in. We will still be standing 100 years from now (now that we have the 41st vote and put the brakes on the march to socialism). Do we have a lot of cuts to make? absolutely. However the sky isn't falling yet.
I would trust the Chinese to give us the straight truth as much as I would David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel.
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I would trust the Chinese to give us the straight truth as much as I would David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel.
I would trust the Chinese first. The Chinese have a vested interest in the success of the USA. The Axelrod/Emanuel crowd have an intense interest in the destruction of the American way of life.
Let's face it. Our enemies no longer live across the oceans.
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Tx:
Thanks for the links.
In answer to your first question, I'm a**uming my source meant Germany's total global export sales. I relied on Thomas Geoghegan's "Notebook" in the March 2010 Harper's Magazine print edition.
If you would like a different perspective on the "stricken Greek economy" I would recommend CounterPunch.org's The Economic Velociraptors by Alexander Cockburn (Feb 12-14)
If you consider Joseph Stiglitz a credible economic source, there's no particular reason why Greece should have become a crisis right now, except it was their turn. Stiglitz argues that what what we're reading in the corporate media is a speculative attack by the big money players at the Credit Default Swaps table in Wall Street's casino.
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Counterpunch--you just lost what little credibility you ever had, assclown.
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He could have said it was an evil plot by SPECTRE, or COBRA, teh JOOOOOOZ, or some other diabolical organization bent on world conquest...
:lmao:
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That's next.
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Tx:
Thanks for the links.
In answer to your first question, I'm a**uming my source meant Germany's total global export sales. I relied on Thomas Geoghegan's "Notebook" in the March 2010 Harper's Magazine print edition.
If you would like a different perspective on the "stricken Greek economy" I would recommend CounterPunch.org's The Economic Velociraptors by Alexander Cockburn (Feb 12-14)
Get back to us troll when you can do more than cut and paste the latest bullsh*t from leftist bird cage liners.
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Tx:
Happy Abe Day...
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country: corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
Abraham Lincoln
Miss him yet?
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Miss him yet?
Actually......no.......
doc
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Tx:
Happy Abe Day...
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country: corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
Abraham Lincoln
Miss him yet?
Miss who?
TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Sun May-08-05 09:32 PM
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1. Alas, this quote is bogus...
Lincoln never said any such thing.
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lincoln.htm
Don't be embarrassed, though, it came up recently on a refrence librarian's list, and a lot of people thought it was real until they looked into it. Lincoln is one of the most widely misquoted figures in history.
Eisenhower, on the other hand, did warn us quite vividly about the military-industrial complex but no one wants to bring him up.
A "good Republican" and the guy who kicked Hitler's ass and settled the Korea mess warns us about militarism-- no wonder the neocons and warmongers want us to forget he was President.
Even the Little Goons who admit they are Little Goons know Lincoln never said this. Why don't you?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1771143
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Miss who?
Even the Little Goons who admit they are Little Goons know Lincoln never said this. Why don't you?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1771143
Cause it spilled dumbass all over itself that it can't see the light for truth
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blaa blaa blaa...
(http://www.epicallyfunnypictures.com/FunnyPictures/EpicFail/EpicFailCute.jpg)
nice fail, dillhole.
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Tx:
Happy Abe Day...
"I see in the near future a crisis approaching that unnerves me and causes me to tremble for the safety of my country: corporations have been enthroned, an era of corruption in high places will follow and the money power of the country will endeavor to prolong its reign by working upon the prejudices of the people, until the wealth is aggregated in a few hands and the Republic is destroyed."
Abraham Lincoln
Miss him yet?
Is this what you're reduced to? Using fake quotes to try and bolster your stupid position?
Giant fail on your part.