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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: thundley4 on February 03, 2010, 05:46:15 PM
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Faun Otter (133 posts) Wed Feb-03-10 05:59 PM
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How the Republican's stole the Mass senate seat
I have obtained the information that finally explains how the Senate election scam in Mass was pulled off.
The quoted "turnout" percentages are the sum of COUNTED votes divided by the number of registered voters times 100 (to make it a percentage) Therefore the "turnout" actually includes the cast votes were discarded without being counted.
How did the optical scanners that are now all owned by the Republicans perform compared with hand counting?
No surprises, they flipped the Coakley and Brown totals. The figures are eerie for their obviousness. I didn't round the figures, I worked from the raw data. Those trailing zeroes are real.
Count method Brown % Coakley % Libertarian % C/O to B/McC ratio (1) "Turnout" (2)
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Republican owned counting machines 52.00 47.02 0.98 52.76 58.80
Hand counted 47.00 51.78 1.22 59.31 60.31
Independently owned counting machines (3) 49.32 50.01 0.67 61.61 70.00
Levers 65.08 33.59 1.33 44.64 50.00
(1) If the Coakley votes are expressed as a proportion of Obama's votes, and Brown's as a proportion of McCain's votes, and the ratio of these figures is calculated, it should be roughly constant since there is no reason for this ratio to change. I also calculated the relationships between Brown's votes on each equipment type and the votes for Barr/Baldwin, and the relationship between Coakley's votes and McKinney/Nader. The variation in these confirms that the Coakley/Brown figures were flipped on the Republican machines, and that Coakley's votes were undercounted on the lever machines.
(2) 100% - turnout % = the combined none voting number (reasonably constant unless suppressed) plus the uncounted votes cast.
(3) Used in only in Milton - acts as cross check by being very similar to the hand count result.
The lever machines were shimmed in favor of Brown by discarding about 8% of the votes cast for Coakley. The person that rigged those machines forgot that the third party candidate total would increase as a percentage of the total count under a three candidate scenario. Can we cross check this? Yes - the alleged turnout (which actually measures turnout minus the uncounted votes that were cast) is below the predicted percentages. The lever figures are easily detected as false because the person who 'fixed' them went way over the top on some machines. See Southbridge for example - 34% turnout (That shows how many uncounted Coakley votes were trimmed) and Coakley only getting 42% while Obama got 65% of the vote in 2008? These figures, combined with the third party 'surge' to almost 3% is an outlier that discloses the magnitude of skimming Coakley's votes.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x514920
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will Pitt report on this in 24 business hours? :popcorn:
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Where's good ol' TruthIsAll when we need him?
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Where's good ol' TruthIsAll when we need him?
Damn.
You beat me to it, sir.
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Faun Otter (133 posts) Wed Feb-03-10 05:59 PM
...If the Coakley votes are expressed as a proportion of Obama's votes, and Brown's as a proportion of McCain's votes, and the ratio of these figures is calculated, it should be roughly constant since there is no reason for this ratio to change....
Because there's no possible way that the MA independents, upon seeing the cluster**** on rollerskates that single payer health care in MA has evolved into, would be turned off by the Failure in Chief's incessant banging away on the gub'mint health care gong and migrate away from Øbummer's flock, is there?
Damn! When it's my turn to be God, I'm making being this stupid painful.
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I have read this gibberish enough times to make my head hurt so could someone try to explain just what exactly the "turnout" percentage is they are talking about?
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I have read this gibberish enough times to make my head hurt so could someone try to explain just what exactly the "turnout" percentage is they are talking about?
I'm not sure Faun Otter even knows what the hell he's talking about.... :mental:
I guess the fact that Brown got more votes than Coakley doesn't/can't/has a snowball's chance in Hell of registering a conscious flicker of reason within the vast emptiness of a DUmmie's cranium....
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alstephenson (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-03-10 06:14 PM
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7. "Unrecs"??? Why?
alstephenson (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-03-10 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. And yet another "unrec"...
Somebody doesn't want this information circulated. Maybe you're on to something...
:lmao:
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Until I see a cinder block, chicken wire, and kerosene demonstration I stay neutral.
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alstephenson (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-03-10 06:14 PM
Response to Original message
7. "Unrecs"??? Why?
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alstephenson (1000+ posts) Wed Feb-03-10 06:16 PM
Response to Reply #7
8. And yet another "unrec"...
Somebody doesn't want this information circulated. Maybe you're on to something...
I guess Faun Otter was too stupid even for the DUmp....
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Republican owned counting machines 52.00 47.02 0.98 52.76 58.80
Um..... Republican owned counting machines? in MA?
what?
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Where's good ol' TruthIsAll when we need him?
http://www.progressiveindependent.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=120&topic_id=4280
Right at the link - and He Concurs = STOLEN ELECTION !!!!111!!1oneoneone!!!!!!!1
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Well, what is the DUmmie waiting for? He needs to hop in his car right now and head to D.C. just in time to stop the swearing-in ceremony for Scott Brown. He'll be a hero!
:rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:
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Um..... Republican owned counting machines? in MA?
what?
Deep-cover op. Posed as Democrats throughout Kennedy regime. Aug. 26th, 2009 was their "re-activation date".
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I'm sure they're just $10 away from proving it was stolen!!!!
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I'm sure they're just $10 away from proving it was stolen!!!!
They should have that in 24 business hours, easy.
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They should have that in 24 business hours, easy.
I'm sure they keep it next to the Karl Rove indictment papers....
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"The election was stolen from us before we could steal it from them." [DU/John Kerry mode]
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I knew it!! Everybody really loves Dear Leader. :heart: They really do!!!
It's those darn rePUKElicans! :argh:
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Damn! When it's my turn to be God, I'm making being this stupid painful.
You got my vote.
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I really didn't have the patience to read through all that. But let me just say to Travesamockery: Your avatar is the best evah, for our board here!
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I really didn't have the patience to read through all that. But let me just say to Travesamockery: Your avatar is the best evah, for our board here!
Thanks - I'm sure I stole it from somewhere. :cheersmate:
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I'm not sure Faun Otter even knows what the hell he's talking about.... :mental:
I guess the fact that Brown got more votes than Coakley doesn't/can't/has a snowball's chance in Hell of registering a conscious flicker of reason within the vast emptiness of a DUmmie's cranium....
Well, if you notice, the DUmmies believe that their side is so correct that the, in their minds, impossibility of loss must be achieved by cheating, or mass stupidity.
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Where's good ol' TruthIsAll when we need him?
He was tombstoned, actually...it's possible that this is a sock-puppet reincarnation, of course, but it doesn't sound quite OCD enough to be him.
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Well, if you notice, the DUmmies believe that their side is so correct that the, in their minds, impossibility of loss must be achieved by cheating, or mass stupidity.
I still can`t make sense of what they are trying to say "turnout" is.
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I still can`t make sense of what they are trying to say "turnout" is.
Trying to make sense of the nonsense that spews forth from the piehole of a DUmbass: that was your first mistake.
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You must be freaking kidding me. :mental:
Actually, I'm not surprised. I even predicted beforehand either here or at CU that the DUmpmonkeys would be claiming the election was stolen if Brown won.
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I even predicted beforehand either here or at CU that the DUmpmonkeys would be claiming the election was stolen if Brown won.
I believe it was here, as I remember that prediction.
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Because there's no possible way that the MA independents, upon seeing the cluster**** on rollerskates that single payer health care in MA has evolved into, would be turned off by the Failure in Chief's incessant banging away on the gub'mint health care gong and migrate away from Øbummer's flock, is there?
Damn! When it's my turn to be God, I'm making being this stupid painful.
When it's mine, I'm goin' to make it fatal! It's the only way to improve the gene pool!
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When it's mine, I'm goin' to make it fatal! It's the only way to improve the gene pool!
You can't make it instantly fatal, though--slowly and painfully fatal would work. :evillaugh:
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You can't make it instantly fatal, though--slowly and painfully fatal would work. :evillaugh:
How about really really really painful for ohhhh.... 2 weeks or so? :-)
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Where's good ol' TruthIsAll when we need him?
I won't believe a word of it until I see a spreadsheet and some kind of graph. I'm not that gullible, I was a skeptic about 911 until I saw the chicken wire and cement bricks. ;)
Seriously, the funniest thing about the MA Senate race is the Dems didn't get time to steal it. By the time the left realized it wasn't a slam-dunk for Coakley, they didn't have time to get their vote thieving mechanism in gear. :-)
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When it's mine, I'm goin' to make it fatal! It's the only way to improve the gene pool!
Painful can lead to fatal for the completely oblivious, but as your candidate for God, I prefer to leave the knob set to painful for long enough that the DUmmies either get the point, or off themselves to make the pain stop.
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Deep-cover op. Posed as Democrats throughout Kennedy regime. Aug. 26th, 2009 was their "re-activation date".
I thought that was the date Skynet became self aware?
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You can't make it instantly fatal, though--slowly and painfully fatal would work. :evillaugh:
Hmmmmmm......I'd have to think about that. I guess it should be on a case by case basis, just to be "fair". Neyu uh uh! ( in my best Bela luGosi interpretation )
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You must be freaking kidding me. :mental:
Actually, I'm not surprised. I even predicted beforehand either here or at CU that the DUmpmonkeys would be claiming the election was stolen if Brown won.
Well, the DUmmies do love a meme to follow....