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Title: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Chris_ on February 01, 2010, 01:25:17 PM
I booted up my old Dell laptop this morning to check out CC, and after everything finished loading, and I was perusing the site for about an hour, I noticed that the cooling fan was running almost constantly, which is uncommon......I loaded up "task Manager "to look at the CPU and RAM useage, and both were hitting the peg at 100%.......

I then looked at the processes that were running, and everything looked OK, so I changes to a different website, and noticed no change.....still running hot as hell.......

Then (while watching the CPU usage in Task Manager, I closed out IE altogether, and CPU usage dropped to zero........so.....I opened IE again, and the CPU usage spiked, but fell to a normal 20% or so, and has remained at that level, plus or minus.....for some time, and the cooling fan is no linger running constantly.......

I  checked to make sure my AV software wasn't running a scan or something......nothing....

Any of you computer wizards know what the hell happened.......

Note:  I'm running Win 2000Pro, and IE6.....with the latest updates.....

doc
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Thor on February 01, 2010, 10:27:00 PM
AV software will not usually detect spyware. It's possible that you have some sort of spyware lingering around. However, that doesn't explain why your CPU usage diminished to a 20% level when you re-opened IE. A possible reason was that IE was updating it's files or phoning home to M$. In the morning, I'll try to find the link to a very good process explorer that shows EVERYTHING that is running and it's corresponding system file.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: LC EFA on February 02, 2010, 12:50:59 AM
AV software will not usually detect spyware. It's possible that you have some sort of spyware lingering around. However, that doesn't explain why your CPU usage diminished to a 20% level when you re-opened IE. A possible reason was that IE was updating it's files or phoning home to M$. In the morning, I'll try to find the link to a very good process explorer that shows EVERYTHING that is running and it's corresponding system file.

I use  Anti-Spy.info  (http://www.anti-spy.info/) in conjunction with  Microsoft Process Explorer  (http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb896653.aspx)
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: thundley4 on February 02, 2010, 08:39:58 AM
My computer slows to a crawl if it's downloading updates for Microsoft or the AV.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Doc on February 02, 2010, 12:56:29 PM
I also use "Adaware", in conjunction with my AV software, but have everything set to manual, in other words, no updates or scans run unless I trigger them myself.....even MS Update is set to manual for the same reason.....with this old laptop, there is not enough RAM to run all that stuff in the background without everything slowing down to  uselessness......

The AV software will run an automatic scan if it detects a threat, but that will show up in a pop-up when it happens.......

I updated my OS last week, which included an update for IE, so there might have been a bug in the update, but the problem has not happened again.....Thor might be right that Windows was phoning home for some reason......

doc

ON EDIT:  BTW Thor,, I ordered the XP installation package for this machine last week, but haven't received it yet.....
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: kenth on February 03, 2010, 05:07:58 PM
I've had some Flash ads spike Firefox to over 90% cpu time. It doesn't always let go just by closing the offending page either. Some times it will stay up until I close or kill the entire browser.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Chris_ on February 03, 2010, 07:41:45 PM
I've had some Flash ads spike Firefox to over 90% cpu time. It doesn't always let go just by closing the offending page either. Some times it will stay up until I close or kill the entire browser.

That may have been what happened, as closing and reopening the browser eliminated it.....

doc
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Wineslob on February 25, 2010, 12:55:30 PM
I've had problems like that at times. Usually I can run CrapCleaner and stop it. Cleaning out all the IE cookies seems to take care of the problem.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: The Village Idiot on February 25, 2010, 01:19:19 PM
Often when I post something or change pages my IE seems to freeze for several moments. Its very annoying.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Chris_ on February 25, 2010, 01:22:44 PM
Often when I post something or change pages my IE seems to freeze for several moments. Its very annoying.

If this is happening on this forum.......I'm told that it is due to heavy useage on the server that we are on, and it happens (at least for me) between 11:00 and 5:00 CST during the work day.

doc
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Chris on February 25, 2010, 01:25:31 PM
I am having a similar problem.  It happens on IE and Firefox... slow page loads, time outs, incomplete page loads.  I think my interwebs are broken.  I change something, and it works fine for an hour.  I've done full scans with Malwarebytes and AVG, I tried releasing/renewing my IP address, clearing my cookies and temp files from both browsers.  Nothing seems to fix it and it happens on every site I go to.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: thundley4 on February 25, 2010, 01:29:36 PM
IE8 is slow when opening new tabs or even opening a link period.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: LC EFA on February 25, 2010, 04:26:44 PM
I am having a similar problem.  It happens on IE and Firefox... slow page loads, time outs, incomplete page loads.  I think my interwebs are broken.  I change something, and it works fine for an hour.  I've done full scans with Malwarebytes and AVG, I tried releasing/renewing my IP address, clearing my cookies and temp files from both browsers.  Nothing seems to fix it and it happens on every site I go to.

This is happening to me too - I thought it was just an indicator that this netbook was running low on resources and needed its monthly reimage.

I don't use anti-virus software - but do run a process scanner and a exploit scanner once a week and the system is clean of anything anomalous.

Running a bit short on free disk space though.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: The Village Idiot on February 25, 2010, 04:28:30 PM
If this is happening on this forum.......I'm told that it is due to heavy useage on the server that we are on, and it happens (at least for me) between 11:00 and 5:00 CST during the work day.

doc

It hasn't happened today but it happens on any site
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Chris_ on February 25, 2010, 04:33:32 PM
It hasn't happened today but it happens on any site

Yours must be a different problem.......what I've seen on slow page-load issues are confined to this site (at least for me), and to a specific timeframe........everything else works OK.

doc
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: The Village Idiot on February 25, 2010, 04:52:04 PM
Yours must be a different problem.......what I've seen on slow page-load issues are confined to this site (at least for me), and to a specific timeframe........everything else works OK.

doc

I dumped a google toolbar and cleaned the cache.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Thor on February 25, 2010, 05:05:32 PM
I am having a similar problem.  It happens on IE and Firefox... slow page loads, time outs, incomplete page loads.  I think my interwebs are broken.  I change something, and it works fine for an hour.  I've done full scans with Malwarebytes and AVG, I tried releasing/renewing my IP address, clearing my cookies and temp files from both browsers.  Nothing seems to fix it and it happens on every site I go to.

I'd probably be looking at hardware  or your ISP.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Chris on February 25, 2010, 05:21:54 PM
I did one of those speed tests and got 3 Mbs down and 1 Mbps up.  I had to reload the page twice for the test to work.

I have similar issues at work and we both have Comcast.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: thundley4 on February 25, 2010, 06:09:32 PM
I did one of those speed tests and got 3 Mbs down and 1 Mbps up.  I had to reload the page twice for the test to work.

I have similar issues at work and we both have Comcast.

Have you tried unplugging the modem for a couple of minutes?
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Chris on February 25, 2010, 06:14:15 PM
Not yet.  I suppose I should give that a shot.  It's really bad right now.


Okay, that worked.  For now.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: The Village Idiot on February 25, 2010, 06:32:03 PM
I did one of those speed tests and got 3 Mbs down and 1 Mbps up.  I had to reload the page twice for the test to work.

I have similar issues at work and we both have Comcast.

I get 15.3 Mb/S download and 0.47 Mb/s upload

Use to have at least 17 Mb/s
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Chris on February 25, 2010, 06:36:58 PM
goddammit.  Now it's back to a crawl.  what the ****?
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: thundley4 on February 25, 2010, 06:50:52 PM
I get 15.3 Mb/S download and 0.47 Mb/s upload

Use to have at least 17 Mb/s

Right now mine is 11.6 down and 2.6 up.  It varies quite a bit though.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: The Village Idiot on February 25, 2010, 06:58:48 PM
Right now mine is 11.6 down and 2.6 up.  It varies quite a bit though.

My upstream never goes up.... what a downer..  ::)
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Chris on February 25, 2010, 07:00:21 PM
My upstream never goes up.... what a downer..  ::)

I hear they have medication for that.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Chris_ on February 25, 2010, 08:40:10 PM
goddammit.  Now it's back to a crawl.  what the ****?

I had a similiar problem with this DSL when I first got it.....speed was all over the map, but mostly slow/stop......they finally found a "node phasing error" at the switch, whatever the hell that means, but I haven't had a problem since.

doc
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: The Village Idiot on February 25, 2010, 10:23:58 PM
I hear they have medication for that.

free samples?
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Thor on February 26, 2010, 12:28:26 PM
With your cable speed varying like that it's one of three things; 1.) A server issue at the local head end; 2.) A return plant problem, probably ingress; 3.) node loading. However, during the day, unless you're in an area where it's heavy usage, it should be pretty quick. I'd probably suggest that you call the cable company and complain about the speed issues. Also, you can get into Your Cable Modem(typically) (http://192.168.100.1) and see if the cable modem is fluctuating. Look at signal to noise ratio, upstream power and downstream power. Upstream should be less than 55 dB, downstream power should be greater than -15 dB (-10dB and up is better) and signal to noise should be greater than 33 dB
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Chris on March 14, 2010, 03:34:36 AM
I found this.  I made the change to my TCP/IP settings.
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I am sending this to everyone with Comcast. Are you experiencing a slowdown or an inability to "find" web pages? If so I have the answer. Comcast switched the DNS servers from in house local to a nationwide server. This is the computer that resolves requests to location of web page. If you set the DNS to one of the ones listed in the attached file and then reboot computer (including turning cable modem on and off) you should get a much faster, more accurate connection. I am using 66.93.87.2 with 4.2.2.5 as the alternate. System seems very fast.

http://www.plex86.org/computer/Comcast-slowdown.html

I checked a couple different sites I haven't been to in a while.  Seems to be running okay.
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Chris on March 14, 2010, 04:21:19 PM
Response is faster, but Comcast still refuses to load some web pages. :censored:

^F5 ^F5 ^F5
Title: Re: Strange Occurrance
Post by: Chris on March 18, 2010, 11:30:27 PM
I cleared my DNS cache.  I didn't do that earlier.