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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: Carl on January 23, 2010, 04:49:49 PM
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I have wandered the island this week basking in their rage and stupidity but as Frank said it wears on ya so I ventured off into a path I have not looked at before.
From the "Disability" forum.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=250x1
fugue (846 posts) Sat Nov-13-04 11:18 AM
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Disabled DUers check in!
I know you're here!
I've got Asperger's syndrome, and I telecommute, thanks to a great boss. I did lose my last job, though, because of my disability (then undiagnosed, so they thought I was making it all up).
Who are you?
Modem Butterfly (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-13-04 11:19 AM
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1. My partner is hard-of-hearing and I have lupus
But I'm not currently disabled. Do I count?
WestHoustonDem (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-13-04 11:23 AM
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2. I have Crohns and Fibromyalgia
Edited on Sat Nov-13-04 11:24 AM by WestHoustonDem
But life is manageable this week. Does that count?
I have heard greenbriar does too.
teakee (91 posts) Wed Feb-09-05 12:57 AM
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121. I have fibro and myofascial pain.....
along with a screwed up back. Plus all the little 'goodies' that fibro/myofascial brings. Anyone that thinks it is made up, may have my body for one week. I need a freakin' break.......honestly, I wouldn't wish this on anyone.
Who doesn't like feeling they are 80 years old (when they are only in their forties) and run over by a truck?
lazarus (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-13-04 11:38 AM
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7. Oh, yeah
ADD, Bipolar, and Psoriatic Arthritis. I might have Fibromyalgia, too, but we're not even thinking about that until we get the rest of it under control.
I'm on disability, but with a second Bush term, who knows?
grilled onions (861 posts) Sat Dec-04-04 03:54 PM
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104. another psoriatic arthritic here
39 years and counting...
That is the start back in 04 but still blazing today..
ildemo (43 posts) Sat Apr-19-08 02:27 PM
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219. Work and SSDI
Now what I am on disability, can anyone tell me if it would be safe to work a menial part-time job for some extra cash? Like at the corner gas station?
Or will it red-flag me?
I really need a little extra money to cover the bills, but I don't want to get cut off, especially since I have only been on SSDI for a month.
ack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Sat Nov-15-08 02:31 PM
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222. Clinical depression
sakabatou (1000+ posts) Thu Dec-18-08 12:57 AM
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224. I'm disabled in a sense...
I'm not hadicapped like a leg or broken back, but I do have brain injuries.
Imagine that. :whatever:
cpompilo (107 posts) Thu Apr-30-09 02:05 PM
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230. Crohn's Disease for 21 years
I'm new to DU and just found this forum yesterday while searching for info on SSD. I applied for SSD and was denied - SSD says I'm not disabled, however, I had to quit my job because I couldn't handle the physical work anymore. I intend to
appeal with an advocate or lawyer. I found lots of great info in a thread yesterday about applying for SSD.
My life was a living hell - I was finally diagnosed in 2001 - my specialist said I was one of the worst cases he'd ever seen. I did the standard medical treatment (steroids, 16 pills of Pentasa/day) for 3 years, none of which did much good. After 2 hospitalizations and near death after taking 6-MP (an immuno-suppressant)I found the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. www.BreakingTheViciousCycle.info The diet saved my life. I've been on it 4 1/2 years now. I rarely have diarrhea anymore and haven't had pain since starting the diet. I take no medication. Perhaps that is why SSD rejected me. I do however have dehydration problems - the Crohn's Disease is mostly in my large colon where water is absorbed. My colon looks like it was hit with buckshot - full of scar tissue now. I still have fatigue issues too. Crohn's is called the Wasting Disease and I can attest to that! I weighed 87 pounds for a long time. I'm now 92 pounds, sometimes more. My goal is to reach 100.
I read through everyone's post here and I feel very fortunate as some of you folks have much worse problems than I. Thanks for this thread, I appreciate it very much.
Greenbriar has that too I guess.
Maraya1969 (1000+ posts) Wed Jul-01-09 05:23 AM
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232. I have bipolar and panic disorder.
Jkid (680 posts) Mon Jul-13-09 02:34 PM
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234. I was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome since sometime.
I don't know, 8 years?
Tam3 (7 posts) Thu Jul-30-09 07:41 AM
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235. I have Lupus, Raynaud's DDD, OA, chronic fatigue
I had my ALJ heating June 4th and received my fully approved letter last Tues. It's a relief that the fight is finally over. I have a partner of 12 years, 3 cats. I want this darn heat wave to be over! I love the Puget Sound and it's not suppose to be this hot. We waited too long to get an portable AC unit, but now that I'll be getting my SSDI we are going to get an AC put in. It got to be 93 in our house yesterday. I hate the heat and our 3 poor cats don't like it much either, so they have been spending their time out in the outdoor enclosure we built for then, and it has shade. It's funny how 87 used to be so hot, but now it feels cooler lol.
Don`t misunderstand me,I am not making fun of illness or disability but a quick wander of that little corner of the island shows what one would suspect...
Thread after thread of how to apply for disability or SSI.
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Hard to believe how many DUmmies are disabled by maladies I never heard of. They must just go through a list of obscure ailments that are difficult to diagnose, but can qualify for SSI, and pick two or three. It seems strange to normal people, but clearly most democrats dream of the day when they can convince the government they are disabled.
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I am laughing that the idea that somebody would consider Reynaud's Disease a disability :lmao: All it means is that you have poor circulation in your extremities. It can be uncomfortable, but hardly disabling :whatever: I surprised that she hates the heat so much though, the heat would alleviate the symptoms of her Reynaud's.
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my specialist said I was one of the worst cases he'd ever seen.
I'm sure he did, but not in the way the dummie thinks.
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I'm sure he did, but not in the way the dummie thinks.
:lmao:
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It would be easier and shorter to compile a list of fit healthy DUers who were willing to work.
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Calling :bs: on those claiming an aspie dx.
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Okay, okay, let's clear the decks here.
franksolich was born deaf, has what a physician speculates as "residual autism," is lacking a right elbow, deals with arthritis and poor blood circulation, sometimes suffers from an open ulcer in the windpipe, has significant speech impediments, and has successfully overcome melanoma.
franksolich also gets "depressed" once in a while.
Whoop-whoop-whoop-de-do.
franksolich is not aware of any person who is not afflicted with something, and surmises that he is less "crippled" than many people thought to be able-bodied.
Whoop-whoop-whoop-de-do.
franksolich also works for a living, and is not on any social services.
Shove that up your asses and smoke it, primitives.
You, the primitives on Skins's island, are really such despicable little people with no sense of confidence, no sense of self-worth, no sense of personal dignity.
Bah, humbug.
edited to add "significant speech impediments;" sorry for the inconvenience
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Hard to believe how many DUmmies are disabled by maladies I never heard of. They must just go through a list of obscure ailments that are difficult to diagnose, but can qualify for SSI, and pick two or three. It seems strange to normal people, but clearly most democrats dream of the day when they can convince the government they are disabled.
For cripes sake! My Doc has told me to nock off the job because of my back! I could get disability, but it don't pay shirt! These worthless POS's look for a reason!
Un****ingBelievable! What's worse is, these people VOTE!
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Frank,you are a perfect example of what conservatism does...it makes a person who has had disadvantages rise up above them and hold their head high.
Not in an egotistical or arrogant way but just as a person who won`t let life beat them.
It goes beyond that too inasmuch as how life works its way out for all of us but physical issues are the point of the DUmmy thread so will leave it at that.
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These ****ing "disabled" primitives aren't worth a wad of chewed tobacco.
But not to worry; as things get tighter and have to be cut, il Duce Bo's bus is going to run over them.....and good riddance.
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cpompilo (107 posts) Thu Apr-30-09 02:05 PM
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230. Crohn's Disease for 21 years
I'm new to DU and just found this forum yesterday while searching for info on SSD. I applied for SSD and was denied - SSD says I'm not disabled, however, I had to quit my job because I couldn't handle the physical work anymore. I intend to
appeal with an advocate or lawyer. I found lots of great info in a thread yesterday about applying for SSD.
My life was a living hell - I was finally diagnosed in 2001 - my specialist said I was one of the worst cases he'd ever seen. I did the standard medical treatment (steroids, 16 pills of Pentasa/day) for 3 years, none of which did much good. After 2 hospitalizations and near death after taking 6-MP (an immuno-suppressant)I found the Specific Carbohydrate Diet. www.BreakingTheViciousCycle.info The diet saved my life. I've been on it 4 1/2 years now. I rarely have diarrhea anymore and haven't had pain since starting the diet. I take no medication. Perhaps that is why SSD rejected me. I do however have dehydration problems - the Crohn's Disease is mostly in my large colon where water is absorbed. My colon looks like it was hit with buckshot - full of scar tissue now. I still have fatigue issues too. Crohn's is called the Wasting Disease and I can attest to that! I weighed 87 pounds for a long time. I'm now 92 pounds, sometimes more. My goal is to reach 100.
I read through everyone's post here and I feel very fortunate as some of you folks have much worse problems than I. Thanks for this thread, I appreciate it very much.
DUH!!!!
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Okay, okay, let's clear the decks here.
franksolich was born deaf, has what a physician speculates as "residual autism," is lacking a right elbow, deals with arthritis and poor blood circulation, sometimes suffers from an open ulcer in the windpipe, has significant speech impediments, and has successfully overcome melanoma.
franksolich also gets "depressed" once in a while.
Whoop-whoop-whoop-de-do.
franksolich is not aware of any person who is not afflicted with something, and surmises that he is less "crippled" than many people thought to be able-bodied.
Whoop-whoop-whoop-de-do.
franksolich also works for a living, and is not on any social services.
Shove that up your asses and smoke it, primitives.
You, the primitives on Skins's island, are really such despicable little people with no sense of confidence, no sense of self-worth, no sense of personal dignity.
Bah, humbug.
edited to add "significant speech impediments;" sorry for the inconvenience
We're with you Frank........
Last year, I finally decided to retire (for the second or third time, I forget), and Mrs. doc and myself go down to the SS office to start our retirement benefits (one year or so after we were eligible)......
Mrs. doc is severely vision impaired, due to Macular Degeneration, and has been "legally blind" for at least ten years.......when it came time to sign all of the forms for the SS representative, she had to have help to find the signature line.....
The SS rep asked her "how long have you been like this?".......she replied, "ten years"
The Social Security representative then launched into a twenty minute lecture on why she should have applied for SSDI, and at the conclusion of the lecture, asked Mrs. doc why she didn't apply........she and I looked at each other, and simultaneously replied, "we didn't need it",........the representative was speechless.......and finally concluded with, "I don't see many folks like you in here........"
Bah humbug indeed.......
doc
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Doc, too bad that there aren't a whole lot more like you. I've heard and read of many well to do people drawing SSDI just because they felt they were entitled to it.
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If half these people had an attitude adjustment, it would take care of many of their problems. Thing is - I've faced my share of illnesses. I am my mother's daughter, as we seem to get the same conditions (just 20 or so years apart). There are many MANY people who face challenges. It's called life. I'm not discounting pain and suffering. I've been there, and it sucks. I've had to take extended leave of absence from work twice in the last 10 years, and I'm very thankful that I've had that benefit through work. It seems that these people just feed off each other, and I'll admit that I feel
sick ill mentally and physically after reading a lot of their posts. If they sit around and play who has it worse, of course they are going to feel bad. I just get tired of people who won't work because they don't feel like it. From what I've learned through the DUmmies' bitching, SSI doesn't pay a whole heck of a lot. If a person is truly disabled, I'm glad there's a program to help. But when you've read the history on some of these people, you pick up on how they don't get along with people, they are tired all the time, blah blah blah. That isn't a disease, unless we are now qualifying laziness as a disease.
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I dunno for sure, but the last time I received a SSA benefits brochure, IF I were to collect SSI, it would be some $2300/ mo. That's almost twice my retirement pay.
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they are tired all the time, blah blah blah. That isn't a disease, unless we are now qualifying laziness as a disease.
Oh, but yes, that is now a newly discovered disease. It's identical to the condition that we've always called laziness, but now they call it chronic fatigue syndrome, and it's a DUmp favorite. It's probably in the same family of illnesses as that California disease where they claim to have severe, debilitiating reactions to the odor of perfume.
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One of the reasons I got out, Thor. After the punishment my body took for the previous 12 years, and seeing how old the goat locker on any boat looked, well, I knew that I'd already more than earned my pay.
Plus, doesn't it just piss ya off a little bit to have given that much of your life and to see so little for it, while assholes scam the system and bitch about what they're GIVEN (yes, GIVEN)?
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Doc, too bad that there aren't a whole lot more like you. I've heard and read of many well to do people drawing SSDI just because they felt they were entitled to it.
We sorta told him that we felt a bit differently about the retirement benefits, since I've hit the max for witholdings for 27 of the past 30 years, and neither she nor I will ever get back all that we've paid in, but when one is capable of making a good living for ones family, it just never made sense to me to take money from the government, even if they would pay it.......something in our upbringing I guess.......
Another story about disabilities........
My uncle (my father's brother) was a Sgt. in the Army during WW II, and shortly after he came back in 1946, came down with Polio.......and ended up in a wheelchair for the rest of his life.......
Now, I don't know what kind of disability benefits were available back then, but I do know that he never applied for them.........Being a vet, he got a job with what was then called the Aeronautical Chart and Information Center (ACIC) in St. Louis. He started at an entry level position (GS-3), and retired after 35 years as a GS-16. And he never left the wheelchair.
He had cars with "hand controls" that would allow him to drive, and all the assistance that he ever asked for was for someone to help him get his wheelchair into or out of the trunk of the car.......
With the exception of his (earned) retirement benefits, he never asked for a dime from the government......
Truly a man among men, may he rest in peace......
doc
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We're with you Frank........
Last year, I finally decided to retire (for the second or third time, I forget), and Mrs. doc and myself go down to the SS office to start our retirement benefits (one year or so after we were eligible)......
Mrs. doc is severely vision impaired, due to Macular Degeneration, and has been "legally blind" for at least ten years.......when it came time to sign all of the forms for the SS representative, she had to have help to find the signature line.....
The SS rep asked her "how long have you been like this?".......she replied, "ten years"
The Social Security representative then launched into a twenty minute lecture on why she should have applied for SSDI, and at the conclusion of the lecture, asked Mrs. doc why she didn't apply........she and I looked at each other, and simultaneously replied, "we didn't need it",........the representative was speechless.......and finally concluded with, "I don't see many folks like you in here........"
Bah humbug indeed.......
doc
After I had my stroke but before I had the three stents placed in my arteries I was working for a school district in the DFW area (I was in purchasing). When I had to have the stents I had to stop work (I couldn't drive because they were afraid I was going to have another stroke and my vision was really blurry from the high dose prednisone). After several weeks off I went back and found I couldn't actually work (I was still having the symptoms of my auto immune disease).
For the time I was off for the stents I received paid medical leave. You donate a certain amount of "sick days" to the "bank" and if you get sick you receive paid sick leave determined and approved by a committee. After my doctors told me I could no longer work (I was only back to work for two weeks before I finally quit) I could have filed for SSI (I was told) but I didn't. We could have used the money but we weren't completely broke. I actually felt guilty getting the paid leave from the school district as some people are turned down for it. There were some people at the time who were much worse off than I was. One person was really sick with cancer (they did receive it) but it made me almost feel ashamed to receive it even though I "paid" into it. I think my guilt from taking the paid leave is what kept me from filing for SSI because I received way more "sick days" than I paid in (well that and it just didn't feel right, if I were single and that was all the money I would receive I would have filed). After about a year I could have worked if I needed to but by that time I didn't need to work. I wonder what I would do if I had to work now and I had the past year and a half I've had with my stupid UVeitis. There were times during the past year and a half that there was no way I could have worked. For that reason alone I am sympathetic to some of the DU'ers who seriously can't work. How many of those who claim they can't work actually can't is another issue all together.
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... There were times during the past year and a half that there was no way I could have worked. For that reason alone I am sympathetic to some of the DU'ers who seriously can't work. How many of those who claim they can't work actually can't is another issue all together.
I, too, am sympathetic to those who can't work due to physical problems. Depression and other things like that make me question one's motives. Hell, I get depressed, too and for long periods of time. I think back from 2006- 2008 (Jan). ;)
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We sorta told him that we felt a bit differently about the retirement benefits, since I've hit the max for witholdings for 27 of the past 30 years, and neither she nor I will ever get back all that we've paid in, but when one is capable of making a good living for ones family, it just never made sense to me to take money from the government, even if they would pay it.......something in our upbringing I guess.......
Another story about disabilities........
My uncle (my father's brother) was a Sgt. in the Army during WW II, and shortly after he came back in 1946, came down with Polio.......and ended up in a wheelchair for the rest of his life.......
Now, I don't know what kind of disability benefits were available back then, but I do know that he never applied for them.........Being a vet, he got a job with what was then called the Aeronautical Chart and Information Center (ACIC) in St. Louis. He started at an entry level position (GS-3), and retired after 35 years as a GS-16. And he never left the wheelchair.
He had cars with "hand controls" that would allow him to drive, and all the assistance that he ever asked for was for someone to help him get his wheelchair into or out of the trunk of the car.......
With the exception of his (earned) retirement benefits, he never asked for a dime from the government......
Truly a man among men, may he rest in peace......
doc
My dad had polio when he was 12. They thought he was going to die, he was in the hospital for a year. He got over it and learned to walk again and appeared normal until about 10 or so years ago (maybe a bit longer). He ended up with post-polio syndrome. He is 70 today and still works (physical labor type work). He had two knees replaced yet he still works. It is painful to see him walk. He is one of those guys who never misses a day of work too. The only time he has taken off is for his surgeries and the time it took to recover. He also had a triple bypass about 3 years ago and has terrible arthritis.
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I, too, am sympathetic to those who can't work due to physical problems. Depression and other things like that make me question one's motives. Hell, I get depressed, too and for long periods of time. I think back from 2006- 2008 (Jan). ;)
Exactly--when did SSI go from a hand "up" to a handout?
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I, too, am sympathetic to those who can't work due to physical problems. Depression and other things like that make me question one's motives. Hell, I get depressed, too and for long periods of time. I think back from 2006- 2008 (Jan). ;)
LOL :-)
I actually did get depressed after my stroke. I don't know if it was from the stroke or the high dose prednisone I was taking (it can cause depression). Probably both but I took zoloft and got on with my life. It sucked before it kicked in though. I would see my kids do something totally cute and I did not care, I couldn't even smile at them. I didn't cook dinner or do really anything for a couple of months before the zoloft started to help. Eventually as I tapered the steroids my depression started to lift so I do think it was a little bit of both that caused the depression.
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DUH!!!!
That was the one that made me shake my head the most and wonder WHY they would even think they are worthy of getting an SSI check, when it sounds like they've got their disease under control and can function quite well (and therefore be gainfully employed).
I wouldn't want what any of these people have, but then I think that most of them are capable of earning a living :whatever:
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These ****ing "disabled" primitives aren't worth a wad of chewed tobacco.
But not to worry; as things get tighter and have to be cut, il Duce Bo's bus is going to run over them.....and good riddance.
I love this :rotf: :rotf:
And GOOD for you for dealing with all that you do and making a living :cheersmate:
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Exactly--when did SSI go from a hand "up" to a handout?
Actually, it happened during the early 1980s; before then, getting social security disability was excruciatingly difficult.
Ronald Reagan wanted something--I wish to God I could remember what--but in order to get it, he had to make a "deal" with the Democrats, one of which was loosening up the requirements for "disability" because of "depression."
That's right.
Ronald Reagan gave this free ride to the primitives, who show scant gratitude.
If any at all.
You know, I'm really depressed right now, really down in the dumps.
I'm sure I can find a physician to give me some mood-altering drugs, and then an attorney to get me social security disability solely because of "depression" (never mind the other things "wrong").
What the Hell? Why not?
It beats working, and one gets free medical care too.
Yeah, right, like I'm going to abdicate my place in society as a useful person paying his own way through life. Like I'm going to admit to God I can't handle paying my own way through life, with all the Gifts God gave me.
This is bullshit.
There's plenty of aged people, plenty of retarded people, plenty of paralyzed people, plenty of amputated people, who can't reasonably be expected to support themselves, and as money is of a limited quantity, every primitive on social security disability because of "depression" (or other non-life-threatening ailments) is taking away money from those who legitimately need it.
If I still drank, every time a primitive on Skins's island whined about being turned down for social security disability because of "depression," I'd pop open another bottle of $54 champagne.
These people are worthless shit.
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Hard to believe how many DUmmies are disabled by maladies I never heard of. They must just go through a list of obscure ailments that are difficult to diagnose, but can qualify for SSI, and pick two or three. It seems strange to normal people, but clearly most democrats dream of the day when they can convince the government they are disabled.
I spent three years trying to convince the government that I wasn't. They make no sense to me.
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And GOOD for you.....
Not "good for" me; no pats on the back are needed.
Especially when there's so many people much worse off than I am--and many of those being people who appear "able-bodied." There's a lot of full-bodied, full-cerebralled, people walking around with serious afflictions, but at least those on this side accept, adapt, and move on.
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These people are worthless shit.
Damn Frank.....don't hold back, tell us how you really feel......
doc
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Damn Frank.....don't hold back, tell us how you really feel......
Well, I look at normal people here, and get pissed off about it.
I look at Thor, who's normal, but has a really bad back.
Damn, for me, life would be Hell if I didn't have a strong, flexible, resilient back.
Or I look at BEG, who's normal, but apparently has some genetically-caused ailments.
Damn, for me, life would be Hell if something went wrong, and I didn't know what it was.
But Thor, who's enormously cripped, and BEG, who's enormously crippled, seem to have accepted, adapted, and moved on, accomplishing things in life despite those problems.
Decent and civilized people view problems as challenges.
Primitives view problems as a means of getting a free ride off the taxpayers' backs.
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Actually, it happened during the early 1980s; before then, getting social security disability was excruciatingly difficult.
Ronald Reagan wanted something--I wish to God I could remember what--but in order to get it, he had to make a "deal" with the Democrats, one of which was loosening up the requirements for "disability" because of "depression."
That's right.
Ronald Reagan gave this free ride to the primitives, who show scant gratitude.
If any at all.
You know, I'm really depressed right now, really down in the dumps.
I'm sure I can find a physician to give me some mood-altering drugs, and then an attorney to get me social security disability solely because of "depression" (never mind the other things "wrong").
What the Hell? Why not?
It beats working, and one gets free medical care too.
Yeah, right, like I'm going to abdicate my place in society as a useful person paying his own way through life. Like I'm going to admit to God I can't handle paying my own way through life, with all the Gifts God gave me.
This is bullshit.
There's plenty of aged people, plenty of retarded people, plenty of paralyzed people, plenty of amputated people, who can't reasonably be expected to support themselves, and as money is of a limited quantity, every primitive on social security disability because of "depression" (or other non-life-threatening ailments) is taking away money from those who legitimately need it.
If I still drank, every time a primitive on Skins's island whined about being turned down for social security disability because of "depression," I'd pop open another bottle of $54 champagne.
These people are worthless shit.
The guy we bought the current house we live in has ALS (Lou Gehrig's Disease). He is in a wheel chair and at this point really doesn't have use of his hands (he can lift his arm barley and use his hand to "hit" something but had no use of his fingers). He is a mortgage broker and has his own online mortgage brokerage company. He has worked through out his terrible disease. I don't understand how he does it now with out the use of his hands but he does it. It's probably getting to the point that he will no longer be able to work soon (he actually told me once that the way they are structuring mortgages that small mortgage companies will be out of business with in a couple of years). That is why they sold the house, so he could retire (he is only 50). I don't know if this plays any part in it (and I know this sounds like a DU bouncy) but I know for a fact he is a Republican. The other day I received an "invitation" addressed to him (it says on the bottom left corner "A member communication by the Republican Party of Orange County") to come see Rep. Ed Royce and Michele Bachmann for a rally on January 28th. :-)
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Well, I look at normal people here, and get pissed off about it.
I look at Thor, who's normal, but has a really bad back.
Damn, for me, life would be Hell if I didn't have a strong, flexible, resilient back.
Or I look at BEG, who's normal, but apparently has some genetically-caused ailments.
Damn, for me, life would be Hell if something went wrong, and I didn't know what it was.
But Thor, who's enormously cripped, and BEG, who's enormously crippled, seem to have accepted, adapted, and moved on, accomplishing things in life despite those problems.
Decent and civilized people view problems as challenges.
Primitives view problems as a means of getting a free ride off the taxpayers' backs.
Ummm, I'm not crippled Frank in the true sense of the word. :p
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Ummm, I'm not crippled Frank in the true sense of the word.
Ah, but madam, that's my singular perception.
You have all five senses, a fully-operating brain, and mobility.
And so in the usual public perception, you're "able-bodied."
But from what I've seen in life, there's plenty of allegedly perfect human specimens walking around, with really debilitating problems; if they're decent and civilized people, they perservere despite those things, and if they're primitives, they go running to the social security and welfare offices.
So that's where I'm coming from here; I would go nuts trying to deal with a tenth of the things you have to deal with.
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Ah, but madam, that's my singular perception.
You have all five senses, a fully-operating brain, and mobility.
And so in the usual public perception, you're "able-bodied."
But from what I've seen in life, there's plenty of allegedly perfect human specimens walking around, with really debilitating problems; if they're decent and civilized people, they perservere despite those things, and if they're primitives, they go running to the social security and welfare offices.
So that's where I'm coming from here; I would go nuts trying to deal with a tenth of the things you have to deal with.
I see what you are saying now. :-*
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I see what you are saying now.
Good, because I didn't want you to think me remiss in my awesome admiration of you, most particularly your feat of refusing to see such things as hindering you, detouring you, delaying you.
Such ailments do do that, but God compels us to persist despite them.
And you do a damned good job.
And Thor too.
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I, too, am sympathetic to those who can't work due to physical problems. Depression and other things like that make me question one's motives. Hell, I get depressed, too and for long periods of time. I think back from 2006- 2008 (Jan). ;)
Getting depressed and having clinical depression are two very different things. Clinical depression won't go away on it's own and when you're in a major depressive cycle it takes all your effort just to get out of bed. I have to go to my doctor every six months to take the "are you sane yet" quiz (she keeps upping my dose so I guess the answer is no). Also, many people with major clinical depression also have other problems (I have GAD and OCD). And it can take a very long time to find the medication (or combination of meds) that work. However, once you find them there's no reason you can't lead a normal life. For me, my meds have to be adjusted every once in a while but as long as I monitor my symptoms I can pretty much tell when I'm sinking. The difference, I think, is that I hate the interruption these things cause in my life...the DUmmies seem to hate it when life interferes with their mental issues. Why anyone would want to wallow in that kind of darkness is beyond me. Nor is it fair to those who have to live with you.
Cindie
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Getting depressed and having clinical depression are two very different things. Clinical depression won't go away on it's own and when you're in a major depressive cycle it takes all your effort just to get out of bed. I have to go to my doctor every six months to take the "are you sane yet" quiz (she keeps upping my dose so I guess the answer is no). Also, many people with major clinical depression also have other problems (I have GAD and OCD). And it can take a very long time to find the medication (or combination of meds) that work. However, once you find them there's no reason you can't lead a normal life. For me, my meds have to be adjusted every once in a while but as long as I monitor my symptoms I can pretty much tell when I'm sinking. The difference, I think, is that I hate the interruption these things cause in my life...the DUmmies seem to hate it when life interferes with their mental issues. Why anyone would want to wallow in that kind of darkness is beyond me. Nor is it fair to those who have to live with you.
Cindie
I've been there with the anxiety and depression, and it not a pleasant thing. I have, in the past, had panic attacks that I would not wish on anyone.
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We're with you Frank........
Last year, I finally decided to retire (for the second or third time, I forget), and Mrs. doc and myself go down to the SS office to start our retirement benefits (one year or so after we were eligible)......
Mrs. doc is severely vision impaired, due to Macular Degeneration, and has been "legally blind" for at least ten years.......when it came time to sign all of the forms for the SS representative, she had to have help to find the signature line.....
The SS rep asked her "how long have you been like this?".......she replied, "ten years"
The Social Security representative then launched into a twenty minute lecture on why she should have applied for SSDI, and at the conclusion of the lecture, asked Mrs. doc why she didn't apply........she and I looked at each other, and simultaneously replied, "we didn't need it",........the representative was speechless.......and finally concluded with, "I don't see many folks like you in here........"
Bah humbug indeed.......
doc
When I "retired" the first of January, the SS representative mentioned that I hadn't reported any income for the last few years. I said, "Yeah. that's right." His next question was why. I told him I was sponging off the wife.....he didn't look satisfied with that. I told him that at age 51 I had had what the doctors said was a major-major heart attack and that I'd never be able to work again and that I should get on SSDI and Medicaid. I felt good so I went back to work. I had employee's that depended on me for their livlihood. After a few years it became neccessary for me to hang it up....sold off some equipment, paid the taxes, put what was left in some kindda tax-delayed thingy....and here I am today. SS REP. said, "Well now. We can put you on disability and Medicaid until your full retirement age of 66.....and that should add XXX.XX number of dollars per month to your monthly check untill age 66."
I told him, "Forget it".....and like your REP....he mumbled something and went bact to typing.....I guess some of us are just stupid in the gub-mints eyes.
OH, and my in school under 18 son is getting a check off SS. Now I know why all those unmarried black women leave their kids with grandmaw for her to raise. kids are on grandmaws tax return as a dependent and she collects an SS check for each one. My son's check is direct deposit into his college/fund/account.
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SS REP. said, "Well now. We can put you on disability and Medicaid until your full retirement age of 66.....and that should add XXX.XX number of dollars per month to your monthly check untill age 66."
I told him, "Forget it".....and like your REP....he mumbled something and went bact to typing.....I guess some of us are just stupid in the gub-mints eyes.
You should take it and give it all to right-wing causes. lol.