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Current Events => The DUmpster => Topic started by: jinxmchue on January 22, 2010, 06:36:32 PM
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Burp the Worm doesn't understand why the average household in a Christian country has more than 1 Bible.
BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 04:50 PM
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The average US household has 3.9 Bibles. US consumers purchase 20 million new Bibles a year. Updated at 4:50 PM
Why? :wtf:
The average household size is about 3, so 4 Bibles per household is not the least bit unusual. Of course, a lot of DUmmies live by themselves (in their moms' basements or not) and hate the Bible, so you can understand their confusion.
ddeclue Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 04:51 PM
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1. I keep it under my gun.. NOT..
no bibles here nor guns..
More for the rest of us.
BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 04:54 PM
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4. We may have two--one I had and one my wife had. Updated at 4:50 PM
But if 3.9 is an average, there must be households with 50 Bibles or more.
Burp doesn't understand averages.
DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 04:52 PM
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2. We have a few Bibles in the house
And we're both atheists. Possessing copies of the Bible doesn't necessarily signify anything.
It signifies you live in a country with Christian roots where freedom of religion exists.
BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 04:56 PM
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9. With Bibles on line though, you don't really need a hard copy anymore. Updated at 4:50 PM
I haven't cracked my Bibles in years, but I visit the Skeptics Bible or Google Bible quotes when I'm arguing with theists, which is usually online.
Big surprise there.
izquierdista (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 04:53 PM
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3. Somebody has 8
Because my household has 0.
Another failure to understand averages.
FarCenter (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 04:54 PM
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5. People keep leaving them in motel rooms
Protect the environment -- make sure they are recycled properly.
To DUmmies, the best Bible is a destroyed Bible.
guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 05:07 PM
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24. naw, is just one dude
whoever this Gideon dude is, he must have a bunch because he leaves one in every room he stays in
"Gideon checked out, and he left it no doubt to help with good Rockies' revival"
Guitar man isn't as funny as he finds himself.
rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 04:56 PM
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7. I have 14 of them
I use them to fight vampires.
I've seen crucifixes, holy water and wooden stakes used to fight vampires, but never Bibles. Does rcrush give them paper cuts or something?
MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 04:57 PM
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10. Pikers. I have a least a dozen Bibles in my house, and I'm
an atheist.
I love this! So many atheists are coming out to say they own Bibles - often multiple copies. Perhaps Burp's thread should've been "Atheists own Bibles? WTF?"
Xithras (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 04:58 PM
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13. Possession doesn't mean much.
Edited on Fri Jan-22-10 04:59 PM by Xithras
I can't even remember the last time I stepped into a church, and yet my home has two. I have one on the big bookshelf in my living room (where it's just one book among many), and my daughter has one on her bookshelf in her bedroom (a gift from her now-deceased great-grandmother). Come to think of it, I may have one or two more in some boxes out in the garage.
Simply having them doesn't mean much. Atheists and agnostics who have them but assign them only small value prove that. So do the fundie freeptards who call themselves "Christian" and wave them in the air, but only crack the cover when it's time to review Leviticus.
Note to DUmmies: Fred Phelps does not represent anything but an insignificant portion of people who claim to be Christians.
stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 05:03 PM
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17. We have zero Bibles in our house. Young kids at home. Don't need books full Updated at 5:13 PM
of gratuitous violence around the house.
I bet stopbush's bookshelf would prove himself a liar. I bet he owns several gratuitously violent movies, too.
salguine (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 05:06 PM
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21. What I want to know is, where are all those tenths of Bibles going?
More ignorance of statistics.
no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 05:06 PM
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22. During the Third Reich, every household had at least one copy of "Mein Kampf" and proudly displayed.
Didn't mean it was picked up and read . . . .
Godwin's Law fulfilled!
BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 05:17 PM
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29. But why have FOUR copies of the Bible (on average)? Updated at 4:50 PM
Does everyone need their own Bible? Why? If you're not a religious person or family, isn't one enough to share among you?
*facepalm*
These questions are directed at you in particular of course.
And, to be sure, I know the reason: this is a book that has been deemed holy and special in the culture. Religious people, Christians especially, think it makes a good gift, and as most families in the US have at least some religious people in them somewhere, they tend to accumulate gift Bibles. And some families have college aged kids in them who buy the Jerusalem Bible, maybe, for religion classes. The Bible has been a big deal in the culture for a 2500 years. It's bound to be in most homes. But the real reason we have so many is the publishers glut the market with them.
We have gluts of a lot of other things, too, but you don't find 4 of each of them in the average American household.
MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 05:06 PM
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23. My bible is the US Constitution.
Um... The U.S. Constitution is a document that enumerates the powers granted by the people to the federal government. It is not a document designed for a person to live their life by.
RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 05:08 PM
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25. Hell, I'm an atheist and I own 3 bibles.
Which is why the premise of "The Book of Eli" is so silly. Not a bad actioneer, but really, the premise is thinner than that of "2012" or "The Core".
You mean that the mass confiscation and destruction of Bibles is not very plausible? You don't much about this world you live in, do you? Many countries outright ban Bibles. Many atheists would love to see the Bible disappear from the world. The premise doesn't sound all that implausible at all.
hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 05:12 PM
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28. Papercrete -- You can build yourself a house that's very holy.
"The paper to be used can come from a variety of sources. Newspaper, junk mail, magazines, books, etc. obtained from the local dump or from waste bins are all useful. Depending on the type of mixer used to pulp the mix, the paper may be soaked in water beforehand."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papercrete
Uh oh, they might not let me into church Sunday. :P
But I really do wonder where all these Bibles go... Does Satan stoke the fires of hell with Bibles?
Hunter's got the queer flag for his avatar. Big surprise there.
gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 05:36 PM
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34. The cost of firewood is a bitch. n/t
China, North Korea, and Muslim countries burn Bibles, too.
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Being a DUmmie is hell.
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I got one when I "joined" the church at age 12. I got a large family bible when I got married the first time. I got one from the Boy Scouts for some reason I can't remember. ....and a New Testament the Marines gave me. The wife and son have several...but I'm still a redneck heathen in the DUmmie book of good and evil.
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts)
Fri Jan-22-10 04:56 PM
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9. With Bibles on line though, you don't really need a hard copy anymore. Updated at 4:50 PM
I haven't cracked my Bibles in years, but I visit the Skeptics Bible or Google Bible quotes when I'm arguing with theists, which is usually online.
Now this, I believe. It's so much easier to have lies fed to you than to actually read the book. It also explains how they can know so much...and yet, so very, very little. I wonder if it's Wilbur's favorite site? (Or should I say, rubliw??) :rotf:
Oh, and just BTW, we have probably 30 or more Bibles. Some were gifts, some were purchased to compare translations or for other study purposes, one was my grandmother's, one was Hubby's grandfather's... :-)
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I can't even remember the last time I stepped into a church
The DUmmie must be forgetting that church he goes to once a month for his government cheese handout.
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Now this, I believe. It's so much easier to have lies fed to you than to actually read the book. It also explains how they can know so much...and yet, so very, very little. I wonder if it's Wilbur's favorite site? (Or should I say, rubliw??) :rotf:
Oh, and just BTW, we have probably 30 or more Bibles. Some were gifts, some were purchased to compare translations or for other study purposes, one was my grandmother's, one was Hubby's grandfather's... :-)
We have at least 8 in our house. One of them is my great-grandfathers Bible that was given to him for Christmas by his parents in 1913. My mom has several, and I have several. I was given my first Bible when I was 8, I got a study Bible when I was in High School, I got a KJV Bible when I was in college because I like the language of that one the best, and I've gotten one or two others along the way. I decide which one to read depending on my mood.
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My wife has three (a student Bible from her youth, one that's just "plain" and a Bible we got from our interim pastor with material that deals with addictions), I have four (my youth Bible, my dad's Bible that I inherited, my Every Man's Bible, and the twin to my wife's Bible about addictions), and my two schoolagers have one each.
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We have several but the one I treasure the most is the one my father got when he became a Mason.
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Buttworm's not bright at all. It never occurs to him that some people have them as keepsakes, or some have been used so much they've worn out but you don't want to throw it away when you buy a new one, or that people might want to have several versions (KJV, ASV, NKJV, etc...) in order to compare translations during study. No, Buttworm's in his own world of stupidville, has been for a long time, is quite comfortable there, and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
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Oh, I dunno.
I have one version here, the Roman Catholic Douai Version.
I've always meant to get a copy of the King James Version, but never got around to it.
The reason I've often thought about picking up a King James Version is because speech therapists use it--gasp! horror!--in speech therapy, and I can still recite language of those Scriptures.
The Bible; an eminently useful book, and useful for more than just the purpose It was written.
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Buttworm's not bright at all.
Aren't they all?
No, Buttworm's in his own world of stupidville, has been for a long time, is quite comfortable there, and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Again, aren't they all?
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Oh, I dunno.
I have one version here, the Roman Catholic Douai Version.
I've always meant to get a copy of the King James Version, but never got around to it.
The reason I've often thought about picking up a King James Version is because speech therapists use it--gasp! horror!--in speech therapy, and I can still recite language of those Scriptures.
The Bible; an eminently useful book, and useful for more than just the purpose It was written.
We've got four or five Bibles . . . now that I think of it, I think that we have six. Three Catholic Versions; two King James Versions, and one Children's Bible that The Heiress likes to be read to from.
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I have two. A KJV version that my dad got when he was twelve. I found it in his stuff when he passed away back in 96. Kept it ever since.
And a Catholic version that I got when I was in the CG for when we'd have our divine services on the ship. I always that it was funny since I was raised Orthodox on my mom's side. But I was the only one on my ship so I went to the Catholic service.
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I have two. A KJV version that my dad got when he was twelve. I found it in his stuff when he passed away back in 96. Kept it ever since.
And a Catholic version that I got when I was in the CG for when we'd have our divine services on the ship. I always that it was funny since I was raised Orthodox on my mom's side. But I was the only one on my ship so I went to the Catholic service.
**Gasp** There is another Orthodox Christian on the site? This is exciting :-)
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**Gasp** There is another Orthodox Christian on the site? This is exciting :-)
Not really, anymore. I was raised Russian Orthodox, but I consider myself agnostic now. I guess I lost my faith over the last 3 years or so.
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Not really, anymore. I was raised Russian Orthodox, but I consider myself agnostic now. I guess I lost my faith over the last 3 years or so.
Well, shoot, that is considerably less exciting.
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Well, shoot, that is considerably less exciting.
Sorry... It does create some problems with the girlfriend who's an avowed atheist, though. I occasionally feel something is missing and have thought about going back to church, which she just shakes her head at.
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Buttworm's not bright at all. It never occurs to him that some people have them as keepsakes, or some have been used so much they've worn out but you don't want to throw it away when you buy a new one, or that people might want to have several versions (KJV, ASV, NKJV, etc...) in order to compare translations during study. No, Buttworm's in his own world of stupidville, has been for a long time, is quite comfortable there, and isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
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That's why we have so many. Plus the One year Bible I got for Christmas. I keep my Woman's Study Bible right here next to me (I have headship issues and thus need reminders...that ought to make their heretical little heads explode). It's underlined, bookmarked, and otherwise well-used.
Cindie
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You know, this open hostility toward anything that hints at religion or a moral code isn't just a moonbat reflex. It's inherent in the philosophy of the democrat party, and consistent with the party's communist foundations. That alone makes me question how anyone who claims to be a member can ever be considered a decent person. Aside from their enmity toward American values, this fundamental issue of morality is hard to get around.
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I'm not particularly religious, but I have three bibles, and I live alone. They're family heirlooms, and sit prominently on my bookshelf.