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Title: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: Texacon on January 22, 2010, 04:24:28 PM
Link to one of the dumbest things I have ever read ...
 (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7547342)

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stopbush  (1000+ posts)       

Fri Jan-22-10 05:00 PM
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Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision? 
 
We had that in place until Reagan threw it out.

Re-enact it. Make it apply to all political free speech, including commercials.

If a corporation wants to run $1B of negative TV ads, then the network running them must offer the opposing side $1B worth of free time to respond.

Assuming the FD could be re-enacted, what are the drawbacks to this as a strategy?
 

Free, free, free.  I don't think they know what that word means.

All the posts there right now are nothing but "Wow!  You are the most intelligenius I've ever heard!!"

 :whatever:

Pretty new .... I'll keep an eye on it.

KC
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: DumbAss Tanker on January 22, 2010, 04:28:35 PM
Dear DUmmies, the SCOTUS decision was based on Constitutional law, your pet hacks in Congress can't undo it with a statutory change. 

Idjits.
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: diesel driver on January 22, 2010, 05:29:14 PM
Dear DUmmies, the SCOTUS decision was based on Constitutional law, your pet hacks in Congress can't undo it with a statutory change. 

Idjits.

Don't think they won't try it....

Bwarney Fwrank has already stated he wants more regulations on the companies that run political ads....

Massachusetts needs to vote his gay ass out of office....
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 22, 2010, 06:16:18 PM
Because the SCOTUS ruling pretty clearly makes the fairness doctrine unconstitutional.
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: Lord Undies on January 22, 2010, 06:20:39 PM
Because the SCOTUS ruling pretty clearly makes the fairness doctrine unconstitutional.

Really?  How so?  I would really appreciate your explanation and be able to pass it along.   
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 22, 2010, 06:24:26 PM
Really?  How so?  I would really appreciate your explanation and be able to pass it along.   

Give me a sec!
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 22, 2010, 06:27:24 PM
Really?  How so?  I would really appreciate your explanation and be able to pass it along.   

Something Rush said... reading from the decision.

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Here's a quote from the opinion: "When government seeks to use its full power, including the criminal law, to command where a person may get his or her information or what distrusted source he may or she may not hear, it uses censorship to control thought.  This is unlawful."  Excellent point, justices -- and it applies equally to talk radio.  Let me read this again to you.  "When government seeks to use its full power, including the criminal law, to command where a person may get his or her information or what distrusted source he or she may not hear..." That means Fairness Doctrine. "You can't listen to Limbaugh! He's controversial. He's got a monopoly, and you can't trust him.  The Supreme Court says, "You can't censor anybody on that basis. It's unlawful."  They struck it down

Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: Lord Undies on January 22, 2010, 06:34:41 PM
Something Rush said... reading from the decision.



Excellent!
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: TheSarge on January 22, 2010, 06:41:42 PM
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Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?

Ummm...maybe because even when the Fairness Doctrine was in effect...it wouldn't have affected what SCOTUS ruled on?
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 22, 2010, 06:44:42 PM
Ummm...maybe because even when the Fairness Doctrine was in effect...it wouldn't have affected what SCOTUS ruled on?

lol.

that too
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: Lord Undies on January 22, 2010, 06:47:08 PM
The Little Goons always seem to think the "Fairness Doctrine" is a one-way street.  I cannot figure out where they get that idea.
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: Texacon on January 22, 2010, 06:47:33 PM
The largest thing I was looking at was;  How many large corporations do you know that donates to ONE side?

Even the NRA donates to both sides.

How in the HELL do they plan to institute something like that?!  It would be a complete cluster ***k.

KC
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: Carl on January 22, 2010, 07:01:30 PM
The Little Goons always seem to think the "Fairness Doctrine" is a one-way street.  I cannot figure out where they get that idea.

Everything in their thought process has to conclude with a benefit to them.
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 22, 2010, 07:03:26 PM
Everything in their thought process has to conclude with a benefit to them.

They probably think they can come out winners of Global Thermonuclear War.

Shall. We. Play. A. Game.?
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: Oceander on January 22, 2010, 07:22:27 PM
They probably think they can come out winners of Global Thermonuclear War.

Shall. We. Play. A. Game.?

Do you want (to be) fried, with that?

(http://www.pamil-visions.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/skynet.jpg)

Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: Specbid on January 22, 2010, 08:16:14 PM
They probably think they can come out winners of Global Thermonuclear War.

Shall. We. Play. A. Game.?

Very good.  :-)

How about a nice game of chess?
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: ReardenSteel on January 22, 2010, 08:34:59 PM
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Ken Burch  (1000+ posts)        Fri Jan-22-10 05:10 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Could Obama do it as an executive order?
 n/t.


sigh  ::)
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: The Village Idiot on January 22, 2010, 08:42:21 PM


sigh  ::)

doesn't an Executive Order only apply to the Executive branch of government? Of course a DUmmie wouldn't know that.
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: ReardenSteel on January 22, 2010, 08:49:48 PM
doesn't an Executive Order only apply to the Executive branch of government? Of course a DUmmie wouldn't know that.

Quick and dirty...
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Executive Orders (EOs) are legally binding orders given by the President, acting as the head of the Executive Branch, to Federal Administrative Agencies. Executive Orders are generally used to direct federal agencies and officials in their execution of congressionally established laws or policies. However, in many instances they have been used to guide agencies in directions contrary to congressional intent.

Not all EOs are created equal. Proclamations, for example, are a special type of Executive Order that are generally ceremonial or symbolic, such as when the President declares National Take Your Child To Work Day. Another subset of Executive Orders are those concerned with national security or defense issues. These have generally been known as National Security Directives. Under the Clinton Administration, they have been termed "Presidential Decision Directives."

Executive Orders do not require Congressional approval to take effect but they have the same legal weight as laws passed by Congress. The President's source of authority to issue Executive Orders can be found in the Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution which grants to the President the "executive Power." Section 3 of Article II further directs the President to "take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed." To implement or execute the laws of the land, Presidents give direction and guidance to Executive Branch agencies and departments, often in the form of Executive Orders.

http://www.thisnation.com/question/040.html
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: ReardenSteel on January 22, 2010, 08:54:28 PM
I read the following yesterday at Powerline in reguard to the SCOTUS decision...
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/01/025440.php

Pretty good stuff and there is more today!
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: Airwolf on January 23, 2010, 12:37:10 AM
If the Big Zero were to sign an EO it would only last as long as it took the next President with a nR next to his name and conservative ideas to erase whatever Barry The Big Eared Asshat did. 
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: AllosaursRus on January 23, 2010, 02:52:05 AM
Ya know what? I hope, hope, these elite bastards just keep up the over the cliff asscapades!

The sooner the American people realize they are nothing more than Castro or Chavez, the better!
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: blitzkrieg_17 on January 23, 2010, 10:45:14 AM
Ya know what? I hope, hope, these elite bastards just keep up the over the cliff asscapades!

The sooner the American people realize they are nothing more than Castro or Chavez, the better!

Agreed, and hopefully soon. It will put the party in the position of returning to (somewhat) sanity or going over the cliff.
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: BlueStateSaint on January 23, 2010, 01:41:56 PM
Agreed, and hopefully soon. It will put the party in the position of returning to (somewhat) sanity or going over the cliff.

What it may do is to create a third party--the National Socialist Party of the United States.  'Course, they won't call it that, but that's the credo it will follow.
Title: Re: Why Not Re-enact The Fairness Doctrine To Deal with SCOTUS Decision?
Post by: USA4ME on January 23, 2010, 01:46:39 PM
Do they ever stop to consider that all these suggestions they give all screams "We're so desperate we're willing to go to whatever lengths necessary in order to force the country to whatever we want it to do"?

Don't answer that.

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